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Post by Burnside on Apr 11, 2011 11:29:30 GMT 1
Isn't that just photoshopped on rather than actually being on the bus?
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Post by Matty on Apr 11, 2011 11:40:55 GMT 1
No it is green stickers.
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Post by Burnside on Apr 11, 2011 13:53:53 GMT 1
Ewww!
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Post by Matty on Apr 11, 2011 18:39:29 GMT 1
I got on it today, it is not a bad bus... Nice and fast and they are not using the centre door. Shame the driver that had no uniform and the paper destination, looked like a different company.
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Post by olympian on Apr 11, 2011 20:42:50 GMT 1
I got it today as well and it seemed to scream above 25mph its better than all the older darts and I had a ride on the 52 plate dart as well, these two are a big improvement.
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Post by mayneway on Apr 11, 2011 21:51:30 GMT 1
I got on it today, it is not a bad bus... Nice and fast and they are not using the centre door. Shame the driver that had no uniform and the paper destination, looked like a different company. I was thinking the same thing. I came across a photo of one of the Vario's out on the 53 the other day, still in its previous owners livery with some uneven fleetname stickers stuck on the bonnet and rear, together with bits of paper stuck in the windscreen with the destinatation on, such a shame when they seemed to start so well.
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Post by Matty on Apr 12, 2011 19:51:13 GMT 1
Another 2 Caetano Darts are going to be arriving to replace the unreliable R Reg Darts & they are going to be keeping the centre doors but won't be going into bus stations.
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Post by mayneway on Apr 13, 2011 15:08:02 GMT 1
Another 2 Caetano Darts are going to be arriving to replace the unreliable R Reg Darts & they are going to be keeping the centre doors but won't be going into bus stations. No doubt they have gone for dual door Darts as they are cheaper to rent than single door buses. I wonder whether they will be using the centre doors though!
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Post by Matty on Apr 13, 2011 18:22:09 GMT 1
I think they have bought them, and they are going to be using the centre doors but won't be entering bus stations.
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Post by BusNut on Apr 13, 2011 18:28:05 GMT 1
Well if they have centre doors and can't enter bus stations in West Yorkshire, how do Red Line get away with it then at Hemsworth / South Elmsall? They even operate into Barnsley Interchange which is a reverse-out type bus station (similar to Leeds, Huddersfield & Wakefield etc) and SYPTE seem to have no issues with it.
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Post by mayneway on Apr 13, 2011 18:33:07 GMT 1
I think they have bought them, and they are going to be using the centre doors but won't be entering bus stations. I carn't see that they have bought them. As far as im aware the only vehicles YL own outright are the two UVG Darts and the two Vario's. The other vehicles are rented/leased/loaned/borrowed or whatever else you want to call it, although like many other companies they may prefer to make out that they own them!
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Post by Matty on Apr 13, 2011 19:00:46 GMT 1
Well if they have centre doors and can't enter bus stations in West Yorkshire, how do Red Line get away with it then at Hemsworth / South Elmsall? They even operate into Barnsley Interchange which is a reverse-out type bus station (similar to Leeds, Huddersfield & Wakefield etc) and SYPTE seem to have no issues with it. That is STPTE not Metro & Metro probably don't have a clue about the Redline Darts anyway.
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Post by Jack on Apr 13, 2011 19:16:53 GMT 1
Isn't Hemsworth Bus Station adjoined to the newish Tesco so may not be Metro property? Plus South Elmsall bus station, passengers aren't likely to exit onto the bus station apron and buses don't reverse on the apron.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 13, 2011 19:28:35 GMT 1
And I doubt those are properly Metro private property anyway, considering they are just shelters on an elaborate street.
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Post by BusNut on Apr 13, 2011 19:59:13 GMT 1
Those were just used as examples of where Red Line operate. Even when FSY had the dual-door Volvo Olympians in service, at interchanges boarding and exiting was always done via the front doors only. So can't really see what Metro's problem is and couldn't this be deemed as been a barrier to entry?
Therefore couldn't Metro be challenged both on competition grounds (illegal barrier to entry) AND the Transport Act 1985 which requires bus stations to be available to all without restriction...
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Post by Matty on Apr 13, 2011 20:05:30 GMT 1
Someone fell out of a middle door in Leeds bus station before and got killed & that's when they banned it.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 13, 2011 20:08:05 GMT 1
Someone died at a Metro Bus Station. An H&S investigation took place and Metro had to be seen to be doing something New safety measures were put in place which included banning dual door buses and erecting lots of fences, signs etc. Nobody has died in a SYPTE bus station, therefore the rules don't apply there.
If Metro did nothing, and someone died again, they would be liable.
Why do people not understand this, and think it is just Metro being akward for no reason? It gets discussed time and time again.
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Post by BusNut on Apr 13, 2011 20:30:59 GMT 1
That may be good and all well, but it is still an illegal barrier to entry and therefore could be challenged, should the specific operators choose to do so.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 13, 2011 22:56:24 GMT 1
It's not a barrier to entry if their vehicles would compromise the safety or smooth running of the station. Are you saying that an operator which consists half of Routemasters and half of articulated coaches, should be allowed free reign within Leeds City Bus Station?
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Post by mollman on Apr 14, 2011 17:32:22 GMT 1
That may be good and all well, but it is still an illegal barrier to entry and therefore could be challenged, should the specific operators choose to do so. Its just like the 'no trainers' rule!
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Post by timelesstable on Apr 14, 2011 20:50:16 GMT 1
That may be good and all well, but it is still an illegal barrier to entry and therefore could be challenged, should the specific operators choose to do so. Would be difficult to challenge if the HSE had an input into the safe operating requirements. Additionally it could be a insurance requirement (3rd party liability) and without it would you want to be the only operator prepared to take that risk and face the media following any accident!
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Post by Matty on Apr 15, 2011 22:33:17 GMT 1
Now with it's new branding applied:
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Post by andyk4050 on Apr 15, 2011 22:41:12 GMT 1
I saw a green and white midi bus going up south parkway the other day, with yorkshire line on the front, anyone know where or what it was doing
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Post by Matty on Apr 15, 2011 22:48:48 GMT 1
R511 YWC or R512 YWC
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Post by mayneway on Apr 15, 2011 22:57:23 GMT 1
I didn't think R511YWC was on the road yet.
Hate to be picky but the sticker on the side of the bus at the top is still wonky. Says alot about a bus company when they carn't even put a sticker on straight.
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