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Post by kendall17 on Feb 24, 2011 2:39:52 GMT 1
Blue smoke = engine oil being burnt.
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Post by timelesstable on Feb 24, 2011 7:08:06 GMT 1
Blue smoke = engine oil being burnt. Not good news unless it was really cold engine |
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Post by billycarne on Feb 24, 2011 10:45:21 GMT 1
oil could be burning for numerous reasons.
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Post by FUM 492Y on Feb 26, 2011 11:42:39 GMT 1
First know about the problem with 31143 as it gets road called every day but First being First won't fix it till it goes bang so expect to see it on the back of a tow truck in the coming weeks
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Post by holland1987 on Feb 27, 2011 11:07:33 GMT 1
First need to refurbish buses around this age. Transdev certainly do as do Arriva.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 27, 2011 11:54:42 GMT 1
First need to refurbish buses around this age. Transdev certainly do as do Arriva. For once I agree. As the ALX400s are low floor they will be around for a long time to come, yet they look like complete sheds. |
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Post by holland1987 on Feb 27, 2011 16:21:42 GMT 1
All it takes is a fresh clean new interior. After 10 years cloth will wear and tear and smell. First just runs buses into the ground.
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Post by Jack on Feb 27, 2011 16:45:44 GMT 1
I wonder if the Aberdeen centric management of FirstGroup under Lockhead resulted in the local businesses not having a substantial engineering budget to facilitate refurbishments.
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Post by timelesstable on Feb 27, 2011 18:33:37 GMT 1
All it takes is a fresh clean new interior. After 10 years cloth will wear and tear and smell. First just runs buses into the ground. Nothing wrong running them day after day until something goes wrong. If it isn't broken then it doesn't need fixing. That will be most Independent Operators philosophy |
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Post by mollman on Feb 27, 2011 20:40:28 GMT 1
All it takes is a fresh clean new interior. After 10 years cloth will wear and tear and smell. First just runs buses into the ground. Especially more comfortable seats are needed. |
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Post by fwybuses on Feb 27, 2011 21:26:48 GMT 1
All it takes is a fresh clean new interior. After 10 years cloth will wear and tear and smell. First just runs buses into the ground. Especially more comfortable seats are needed. Wright bus seating. They have two 02 ones, and they are the most comfortable buses out there, well ALX400's. |
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Feb 27, 2011 22:16:27 GMT 1
All it takes is a fresh clean new interior. After 10 years cloth will wear and tear and smell. First just runs buses into the ground. Nothing wrong running them day after day until something goes wrong. If it isn't broken then it doesn't need fixing. That will be most Independent Operators philosophy All good and well but if your trying to attract passengers, a heavily smoking bus dosen't help. Arriva seemed to have realised this and sorted out their ALX300s and Spectras that used to churn out dirty black smoke. Arriva have found some pride where as First must love scruffiness. |
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Post by kendall17 on Feb 27, 2011 22:26:48 GMT 1
Black smoke or not, i wouldn't give two flying ****s if it was, just aslong as it gets me from A to B, i dont care
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Post by timelesstable on Feb 27, 2011 22:58:19 GMT 1
Nothing wrong running them day after day until something goes wrong. If it isn't broken then it doesn't need fixing. That will be most Independent Operators philosophy All good and well but if your trying to attract passengers, a heavily smoking bus dosen't help. Arriva seemed to have realised this and sorted out their ALX300s and Spectras that used to churn out dirty black smoke. Arriva have found some pride where as First must love scruffiness. Try going on an Arriva Sleby President or Castleford ALX400 which is still on the to be refurbished list and see if any of those are neat and tidy inside, not much pride in those yet. |
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Post by holland1987 on Feb 28, 2011 1:26:32 GMT 1
Arriva need to give their Presidents the transdev treatment.
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Post by timelesstable on Feb 28, 2011 8:05:41 GMT 1
Arriva need to give their Presidents the transdev treatment. Why go to all that expense when a re-trim and a re-paint will do the job. |
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Post by holland1987 on Feb 28, 2011 22:51:44 GMT 1
Well why did transdev go to all that expense then ?
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Post by timelesstable on Feb 28, 2011 22:55:40 GMT 1
Well why did transdev go to all that expense then ? No idea, the Arriva ones do the job and once treated look tidy. |
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Post by Matty on Feb 28, 2011 23:26:11 GMT 1
The Urban90 seats are awful when on long journeys. They are fine for short journeys but when I sit on them all the way to Halifax, they get quite irritating.
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Post by kendall17 on Mar 1, 2011 1:59:03 GMT 1
When was the last time you saw a First bus with a refurb etc?
Why bother? Before long, the ALX400s will be restricted to school duties. Also, they'll be 11 years old. The Royales & Scania's are older and still haven't received the treatment.
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Post by holland1987 on Mar 1, 2011 2:36:26 GMT 1
The Royales aren't low floor the ALX400's are and have more life in them.
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Post by kendall17 on Mar 1, 2011 9:26:37 GMT 1
The Royales aren't low floor the ALX400's are and have more life in them. So, I ask again, when was the last time you saw a refurbished First bus? I think the last ones in West Yorks to recieve such treatment were the 1990 Volvo Citybuses? (excluding the Marshall Darts as they were to be refurbed before going into service) These have since gone to the scrappers, not too long after their refurbishments. Thing is, with any bus under FirstBus (especially in West Yorkshire), it wont see a refurb. Especially when the ALX400s will soon be confined to school workings. |
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Post by Matty on Mar 1, 2011 10:01:16 GMT 1
Nearly every London Bus has a refurb when it leaves the capital, so it may be a possibility that any non London bus may recieve a mid-life refurb if First don't like them.
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Post by holland1987 on Mar 1, 2011 13:33:39 GMT 1
I think Leeds refurbished their Superbus Striders only 2 years after entering service when they did an interior replacement.
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