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Post by driver6540 on Feb 23, 2011 20:39:09 GMT 1
But again how is Joe Blogs standing on the pavement outside a bus station jotting down the registrations of passing buses/coaches in any way a problem for the driver? Bus drivers are indeed intitled to privacy, but as they work in the public eye they should accept that there will be times when bus enthusiasts want to photograph the bus there driving [not them], if they dont want to be in the public eye, they should consider a different career. Enthusiasts can be a problem. Where i work we constantly have people turning up wanting to come into the yard to take photo's etc, we have had to restrict them to Sundays only when the yard is quiet, and i would agree that enthusiasts wanting to come aboard to take photo's is a little much, but at least they ask and dont just do it. When you're sat there, with door open and they jot the reg plate, then the VIN plate, then the legals, then ask you what it seats etc. Its annoying. So, anyone that works in the public eye and doesn't like their photographs being taken, they should consider a job. I dont like my photo being taken at all because, I aren't confident and dont feel photogenic. Now, if i was driving a bus and in the same situation, i wouldn't like it. They maybe photographing the bus, but the driver is still in the picture and still feels like the main focus of the shot. I understand fully what you say, because thats me exactly Kendal 17. If i was driving my car to work and say, stopped at traffic lights and some clown jumped in front of me and started snapping away, i wouldnt be responsible for my own actions. Its about time people learnt some manners and showed a little courtesy. Just because youre hobby is transport photography it does NOT give you automatic right to photo the driver of the vehicle youre interested in without permission. I also think if permission was asked it would foster better relationships between photographers and transport operators/drivers alike.
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Post by driver6540 on Feb 23, 2011 20:44:18 GMT 1
Thats your opinion, to which youre entitled, but as you can see from other posters it isnt about nothing otherwise it wouldnt have provoked a debate would it?.
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Post by guyarab on Feb 24, 2011 21:59:40 GMT 1
I just do not see the fuss about the odd occasion someone's face may be seen in a photograph of a bus. Why get so irate? "i wouldnt be responsible for my own actions" - there's no need for belligerence - there's too much of it in this world as it is.
I think you should ask permission when able, but it is not usually possible when taking photographs of moving buses. We should also remember that it is not against the law to do so in public areas.
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Post by Matty on Feb 24, 2011 22:48:29 GMT 1
I always TRY and get the windscreen pillar covering the drivers face.
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Post by driver6540 on Feb 24, 2011 22:56:53 GMT 1
I just do not see the fuss about the odd occasion someone's face may be seen in a photograph of a bus. Why get so irate? "i wouldnt be responsible for my own actions" - there's no need for belligerence - there's too much of it in this world as it is. I think you should ask permission when able, but it is not usually possible when taking photographs of moving buses. We should also remember that it is not against the law to do so in public areas. The point i was trying to make, was when a bus or other vehicle is stationary and a photographer stands in front of that vehicle and the drivers face will be clearly visible in the finished shot, then if that photo is taken without gaining permission from the said driver then that becomes a clear invasion of the said drivers privacy. I agree with you fully when you say theres too much belligerence in the world, but not respecting professional drivers privacy just to extract a photo for your hobby only serves to fuel that belligerence. Whether it is against the law or not dosent make it right does it?. To put it into context the law states pregnant women can legally urinate into a bobbys helmet within the sound of Bow Bells, but if any woman took up that option she would rightly be considered an ignorant cow.
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Post by timelesstable on Feb 25, 2011 10:11:04 GMT 1
I just do not see the fuss about the odd occasion someone's face may be seen in a photograph of a bus. Why get so irate? "i wouldnt be responsible for my own actions" - there's no need for belligerence - there's too much of it in this world as it is. I think you should ask permission when able, but it is not usually possible when taking photographs of moving buses. We should also remember that it is not against the law to do so in public areas. Try telling the police that after you have been taking pictures of the school buses outside an all girls school......................
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Post by Matty on Feb 25, 2011 13:21:49 GMT 1
Taking photos of school buses is one thing you don't do, I never have and never will - If i need to I will always check to see if it is empty first.
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Post by mayneway on Mar 6, 2011 0:14:53 GMT 1
But again how is Joe Blogs standing on the pavement outside a bus station jotting down the registrations of passing buses/coaches in any way a problem for the driver? Bus drivers are indeed intitled to privacy, but as they work in the public eye they should accept that there will be times when bus enthusiasts want to photograph the bus there driving [not them], if they dont want to be in the public eye, they should consider a different career. Enthusiasts can be a problem. Where i work we constantly have people turning up wanting to come into the yard to take photo's etc, we have had to restrict them to Sundays only when the yard is quiet, and i would agree that enthusiasts wanting to come aboard to take photo's is a little much, but at least they ask and dont just do it. When you're sat there, with door open and they jot the reg plate, then the VIN plate, then the legals, then ask you what it seats etc. Its annoying. I dont see it as annoying, as a semi enthuisast myself im more than happy to answer questions about the vehicle im driving, when i can that is. As ive said before, there are times when you carn't give them the answers they want, but it costs nothing to simply appologise and say im sorry im running late, or im on a brake, rather than swear at them and tell them where to go, as ive seen many times. And yes where possible its always better to ask before taking photos. I find around 70% of photographers i come across while working will come over and ask if its ok, which is actually great for me because i always ask them to email me copies.
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