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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 20, 2023 7:31:53 GMT 1
Even when the 30 is running normally, the timetable for the short trips does feature a 35 minute layover each hour in that lay-by, so it doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t running if you see one
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Post by joseph on Apr 20, 2023 8:20:32 GMT 1
Even when the 30 is running normally, the timetable for the short trips does feature a 35 minute layover each hour in that lay-by, so it doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t running if you see one Well no wonder the drivers are getting fed up of running the 30 of they have to have a 35 minute break each hour, what a waste, WYCA could have used part of that layover to extend the short journeys elsewhere on a funded basis and provide either boosted, or new links. Could easily reach Greengates (for the retail park down there) non stop (so as not to compete with the 60) there and back well within the 35 mins, Owlcoates non stop and so on, advertise those shopping links well throughout that estate, as well as the rest of the route and it could turn commercial but nope, WYCA don't do creation.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 20, 2023 9:57:35 GMT 1
Even when the 30 is running normally, the timetable for the short trips does feature a 35 minute layover each hour in that lay-by, so it doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t running if you see one Well no wonder the drivers are getting fed up of running the 30 of they have to have a 35 minute break each hour, what a waste, WYCA could have used part of that layover to extend the short journeys elsewhere on a funded basis and provide either boosted, or new links. Could easily reach Greengates (for the retail park down there) non stop (so as not to compete with the 60) there and back well within the 35 mins, Owlcoates non stop and so on, advertise those shopping links well throughout that estate, as well as the rest of the route and it could turn commercial but nope, WYCA don't do creation. There's only 3 or 4 of those gaps each day. Would those links be terribly popular with up to 2 hours to do your shopping? Is that likely to be a commercial proposition? It would still cost more in fuel.
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Post by Mr D Roebuck-Johnson on Apr 21, 2023 0:34:33 GMT 1
Even when the 30 is running normally, the timetable for the short trips does feature a 35 minute layover each hour in that lay-by, so it doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t running if you see one I’m quite capable of reading a timetable !
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Post by joseph on Apr 21, 2023 6:47:53 GMT 1
Well no wonder the drivers are getting fed up of running the 30 of they have to have a 35 minute break each hour, what a waste, WYCA could have used part of that layover to extend the short journeys elsewhere on a funded basis and provide either boosted, or new links. Could easily reach Greengates (for the retail park down there) non stop (so as not to compete with the 60) there and back well within the 35 mins, Owlcoates non stop and so on, advertise those shopping links well throughout that estate, as well as the rest of the route and it could turn commercial but nope, WYCA don't do creation. There's only 3 or 4 of those gaps each day. Would those links be terribly popular with up to 2 hours to do your shopping? Is that likely to be a commercial proposition? It would still cost more in fuel. Depends on how creative you are at marketing. 'Bored working from home are we? Fancy taking a few hours off one day? Go on, do it, take a couple of hours off and nip down to Owlcoates, no need for parking hassle as we'll take you there, and back again'. A nice inviting picture of the M&S cafe, complete with inviting food/drinks, attached with the timetable is all that's needed. Then you've got the good old 'internet shopping doing your head in? We serve Matalan at Greengates to save you the hassle of driving as we know you hate that too, go on, pick a journey and put the power of shopping for something really good back in your hands'. Again all you need for that one is a picture of a frustrated internet shopper with an item they're clearly not happy with, and a timetable. No need for printed publicity either, targeted sponsored advertising on all social media platforms is just as effective, and probably cheaper too.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 21, 2023 8:07:59 GMT 1
There's only 3 or 4 of those gaps each day. Would those links be terribly popular with up to 2 hours to do your shopping? Is that likely to be a commercial proposition? It would still cost more in fuel. Depends on how creative you are at marketing. 'Bored working from home are we? Fancy taking a few hours off one day? Go on, do it, take a couple of hours off and nip down to Owlcoates, no need for parking hassle as we'll take you there, and back again'. A nice inviting picture of the M&S cafe, complete with inviting food/drinks, attached with the timetable is all that's needed. Then you've got the good old 'internet shopping doing your head in? We serve Matalan at Greengates to save you the hassle of driving as we know you hate that too, go on, pick a journey and put the power of shopping for something really good back in your hands'. Again all you need for that one is a picture of a frustrated internet shopper with an item they're clearly not happy with, and a timetable. No need for printed publicity either, targeted sponsored advertising on all social media platforms is just as effective, and probably cheaper too. You appear to have missed my point. I didn't argue about the desirability of the destination.
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Post by o539 on May 23, 2023 10:44:49 GMT 1
As announced by Yorkshire Buses today, the number 9 is set to serve parts of the current 30 bus route from 03/07/23, namely Horsforth Vale and Horsforth train station. Although the changes are still a while off currently and there is no timetable as of yet, I wonder what these changes will mean for the 30. It seems like this could be WYCA's way of fixing the issues with the 30, whether this will mean the service will be scrapped entirely I'm not too sure, only time and the changes to the gov bus database will tell. Either way even though it seems like the rerouted 9 may not travel down the exact route that the 30 used to, it'll still be a massive improvement over what we have currently, which isn't much of a service at all for the most part, at least outside of off-peak hours. www.facebook.com/100084845648980/posts/pfbid028SCxxb7LpHjVDcB6KJM9qf3ebZiBrEwNihZtD1nEYesfxTADWhHLjm15APcyKoErl/?sfnsn=scwspmo
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Post by roilshead on May 31, 2023 23:00:53 GMT 1
After a few months of abstinence, during which time on a couple of occasions I'd seem a 30 passing Horsforth roundabout I took the opportunity a couple of Thursdays ago to give it ago again, just to see whether I'd actually be allowed to board, and if I was allowed to set foot on the bus whether there was any way to pay other than by "pre-book" or "pre-pay" . . . no show for either the 11:30 or 12:30 departures from Pudsey.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2023 20:36:59 GMT 1
Quick question what are the rules on drivers playing radios really loud from their cabs? I Came across a video on youtube the other day, where somebody went on the route 30, and it was an Ex First Leeds Gemini, since First dont fit radios into their buses and I couldn't imagine an independent fitting a radio and speakers on to the buses, it got a whole lot louder the radio, the closer you went to the cab, I presume, it was a driver using a portable speaker or radio type of thing. Is this sort of thing allowed or not?
I'm not moaning, just a geniune question.
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 7, 2023 20:48:14 GMT 1
Quick question what are the rules on drivers playing radios really loud from their cabs? I Came across a video on youtube the other day, where somebody went on the route 30, and it was an Ex First Leeds Gemini, since First dont fit radios into their buses and I couldn't imagine an independent fitting a radio and speakers on to the buses, it got a whole lot louder the radio, the closer you went to the cab, I presume, it was a driver using a portable speaker or radio type of thing. Is this sort of thing allowed or not? I'm not moaning, just a geniune question. I've known some drivers use bluetooh speakers or portable radios. Some independants do have vehicles that have radios e.g Tetley's Solo SRs YJ18DKD-F have radios. In a way it's a positive step as it helps drivers listen out for traffic updates.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2023 21:04:34 GMT 1
Quick question what are the rules on drivers playing radios really loud from their cabs? I Came across a video on youtube the other day, where somebody went on the route 30, and it was an Ex First Leeds Gemini, since First dont fit radios into their buses and I couldn't imagine an independent fitting a radio and speakers on to the buses, it got a whole lot louder the radio, the closer you went to the cab, I presume, it was a driver using a portable speaker or radio type of thing. Is this sort of thing allowed or not? I'm not moaning, just a geniune question. I've known some drivers use bluetooh speakers or portable radios. Some independants do have vehicles that have radios e.g Tetley's Solo SRs YJ18DKD-F have radios. In a way it's a positive step as it helps drivers listen out for traffic updates. If they do not have a performing rights licence to play music on board then that is an offence for which they can be prosecuted, and PRL’s don’t come cheap!
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 7, 2023 22:54:42 GMT 1
I've known some drivers use bluetooh speakers or portable radios. Some independants do have vehicles that have radios e.g Tetley's Solo SRs YJ18DKD-F have radios. In a way it's a positive step as it helps drivers listen out for traffic updates. If they do not have a performing rights licence to play music on board then that is an offence for which they can be prosecuted, and PRL’s don’t come cheap! Reckon they'd be covered, given the number of coaches they also operate
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Post by peteleeds on Jun 8, 2023 8:46:14 GMT 1
So with the changes to the 9 is this contract getting terminated?
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Post by deerfold on Jun 8, 2023 8:50:16 GMT 1
If they do not have a performing rights licence to play music on board then that is an offence for which they can be prosecuted, and PRL’s don’t come cheap! Reckon they'd be covered, given the number of coaches they also operate Any licence they have will be for a specific number of vehicles.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 9:05:13 GMT 1
I know there was an operator in Manchester Jim Stone Coaches I think, they aren't in business anymore I believe, that had radios on all of their buses I believe. It couldn't have been cheap for them to have a PRL for all of their buses! But I got told it was a good way to improve staff morale and motivation and helps the day go faster/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 17:24:40 GMT 1
I see A and A Travel have ex Arriva Yorkshire ALX400 671 W671CWX, I hope they are taking care of this lovely thing. As I've always loved the ALX400s at Arriva, for me the best deckers they've ever had, reliable workhorses. Should be about 23 years old now.
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Post by o539 on Jun 9, 2023 18:53:52 GMT 1
So with the changes to the 9 is this contract getting terminated? That's what I'm wondering too, it seems like it could be a possibility since the 9 will cover pretty much the same route as the existing 30, and will serve Pudsey more frequently as a result which is a welcome addition. Plus it would be a waste of the bus subsidy the current 30 runs on otherwise. Although I'm unsure whether the route the current 30 takes through the houses in calverley will be covered under the new 9 route, hopefully it will be but I guess we probably won't fully know until they release the full details of the change later this month since it's set to come into effect on the third of July
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Post by peteleeds on Jun 9, 2023 19:00:55 GMT 1
So with the changes to the 9 is this contract getting terminated? That's what I'm wondering too, it seems like it could be a possibility since the 9 will cover pretty much the same route as the existing 30, and will serve Pudsey more frequently as a result which is a welcome addition. Plus it would be a waste of the bus subsidy the current 30 runs on otherwise. Although I'm unsure whether the route the current 30 takes through the houses in calverley will be covered under the new 9 route, hopefully it will be but I guess we probably won't fully know until they release the full details of the change later this month since it's set to come into effect on the third of July 9 not serving calverley. map i seen somewhere shows it still turning from rodley at roundabout heading for horsforth vale
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Post by o539 on Jun 13, 2023 20:11:40 GMT 1
The timetable for the rerouted 9 indicates that the 30 calverley section will not be replaced on the new route. Despite this it's very good news that there will be a more reliable service coming now, and it will actually be routed through the Horsforth Vale development itself much like the original 30 was back when it first started in 2015. Whether the 30 is still going to run after these timetable changes I'm not too sure, although I doubt it since you would think the 9 will be using the subsidy money that would be usually given to the 30 www.facebook.com/100084845648980/posts/pfbid02HfTWGSycG8gj1MPYGfqudhELGZznTmfqrSxixGGDmDoRFeZJeAUTo45KVZtGiwvZl/
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Post by deerfold on Jun 13, 2023 20:37:44 GMT 1
The timetable for the rerouted 9 indicates that the 30 calverley section will not be replaced on the new route. Despite this it's very good news that there will be a more reliable service coming now, and it will actually be routed through the Horsforth Vale development itself much like the original 30 was back when it first started in 2015. Whether the 30 is still going to run after these timetable changes I'm not too sure, although I doubt it since you would think the 9 will be using the subsidy money that would be usually given to the 30 www.facebook.com/100084845648980/posts/pfbid02HfTWGSycG8gj1MPYGfqudhELGZznTmfqrSxixGGDmDoRFeZJeAUTo45KVZtGiwvZl/Distributing the timetables like this is great, though the first sentence of that letter seems a bit belligerent, even if it's not clear who it's aimed at.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 20:45:39 GMT 1
The timetable for the rerouted 9 indicates that the 30 calverley section will not be replaced on the new route. Despite this it's very good news that there will be a more reliable service coming now, and it will actually be routed through the Horsforth Vale development itself much like the original 30 was back when it first started in 2015. Whether the 30 is still going to run after these timetable changes I'm not too sure, although I doubt it since you would think the 9 will be using the subsidy money that would be usually given to the 30 www.facebook.com/100084845648980/posts/pfbid02HfTWGSycG8gj1MPYGfqudhELGZznTmfqrSxixGGDmDoRFeZJeAUTo45KVZtGiwvZl/Guessing Route 30s future could depend on if they add a Sunday service to route 9 if indeed the development money has moved services
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 20:47:36 GMT 1
Think that is an excellent way to do it. Lovely to see a fantastic company doing something like this. Very personal and professional. I hoping a lot of people will use the rerouted 9. Think that is a fabulous way of building up a great reputation in the company. You dont see a lot of companies going to this extremes nowadays,its lovely to see.
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Post by o539 on Jun 13, 2023 23:41:30 GMT 1
Think that is an excellent way to do it. Lovely to see a fantastic company doing something like this. Very personal and professional. I hoping a lot of people will use the rerouted 9. Think that is a fabulous way of building up a great reputation in the company. You dont see a lot of companies going to this extremes nowadays,its lovely to see. I have to absolutely agree with this, what they are doing for all the routes they are running is above and beyond most of the operators in Leeds. Also in response to the post from cp2012, that is true and could be a possibility. Although I can't see the 30 actually running in reality even if it does remain just for the Sunday service around horsforth on paper, mainly due to the current track record documented on this thread.
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Post by rosscolley64 on Jun 16, 2023 15:25:02 GMT 1
Ex-Peoplesbus (and new to Metroline) ADL Enviro400 LK55 KKR in use on the route today. Paper destination in windscreen, though this is understandable as the bus is fitted with rollblinds instead of LED displays.
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Post by o539 on Jun 16, 2023 21:19:19 GMT 1
Ex-Peoplesbus (and new to Metroline) ADL Enviro400 LK55 KKR in use on the route today. Paper destination in windscreen, though this is understandable as the bus is fitted with rollblinds instead of LED displays. The 30 was actually running today?!? Or are you talking about the 9?
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