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Post by jus363 on Aug 2, 2022 16:04:40 GMT 1
37734 & 37735 Bradford to Halifax Has First Halifax suddenly turned into First Leeds having way more Double Deckers than single deckers. I guess thats a fair descision as currently there are now only 3 routes that can't have deckers rather than 5. Before it was 539, 542, 548, 549 and 587 but now it is 542, 548 and 549. Before someone attacks me saying 539 could have had deckers on, it couldn't because it interworked 587 but now it can as the 587 is now fully ran by Team Pennine. There's probable more double decker available to cascade than singles at the moment, And the singles at Halifax are just about life expired 667++ batch and the ones they got from Bradford were even worse hence why there is only two of them left
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Post by simon on Aug 2, 2022 19:45:17 GMT 1
And yet the 548/9 was deckers only Back in the 80s. Very rare to see a single back then on them routes.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 2, 2022 19:53:00 GMT 1
You are also not factoring in that the withdrawal of many of the yellow school buses (which were of course single deckers) have been replaced by double deckers
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Post by Username on Aug 2, 2022 21:03:39 GMT 1
And yet the 548/9 was deckers only Back in the 80s. Very rare to see a single back then on them routes. Were the double deckers back then 4m tall then?
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Post by Danny on Aug 2, 2022 21:24:07 GMT 1
And yet the 548/9 was deckers only Back in the 80s. Very rare to see a single back then on them routes. Were the double deckers back then 4m tall then? 14ft 6 Olympians ran under that Bridge, Geminis also used to go under running to and from Rastrick High Sch.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 2, 2022 21:43:41 GMT 1
That must have been a while ago as the B10/B11 now go all the way up to the centre of Rastrick and then come back down again to access the high school
It’s the road layout and how busy it is around there, they’d have to move into the centre of the road heading towards oncoming traffic coming round a blind bend. You could imagine a bus being forced off centre and hitting the bridge
Rather than double decks, reinstating the 548/549 to the very long established 15 min frequency would be a priority for me. The skewed 2x549/1x548 20 min frequency is a mess
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Post by Username on Aug 2, 2022 22:32:41 GMT 1
That must have been a while ago as the B10/B11 now go all the way up to the centre of Rastrick and then come back down again to access the high school It’s the road layout and how busy it is around there, they’d have to move into the centre of the road heading towards oncoming traffic coming round a blind bend. You could imagine a bus being forced off centre and hitting the bridge Rather than double decks, reinstating the 548/549 to the very long established 15 min frequency would be a priority for me. The skewed 2x549/1x548 20 min frequency is a mess Or maybe traffic signals would work?
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Post by simon on Aug 2, 2022 23:44:15 GMT 1
I seem to think the railway bridge at Brighouse was the issue. Deckers having to take the middle. The only incident I'm aware of was in 1994 when one of the 5301-15 batch got caught out. But there could've been more.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 2, 2022 23:48:43 GMT 1
That must have been a while ago as the B10/B11 now go all the way up to the centre of Rastrick and then come back down again to access the high school It’s the road layout and how busy it is around there, they’d have to move into the centre of the road heading towards oncoming traffic coming round a blind bend. You could imagine a bus being forced off centre and hitting the bridge Rather than double decks, reinstating the 548/549 to the very long established 15 min frequency would be a priority for me. The skewed 2x549/1x548 20 min frequency is a mess Or maybe traffic signals would work? Or they could just use single deckers like they have done for about 25 years?
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Post by handyandy67 on Aug 3, 2022 0:57:54 GMT 1
just looked at bustimes.org and it has 37734,37735 going to huddersfiel from Bradford
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Post by handyandy67 on Aug 3, 2022 0:59:37 GMT 1
37734 & 37735 Bradford to Halifax bustimes.org has these going from Bradford to Huddersfield
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Post by sidthesexist on Aug 3, 2022 3:27:20 GMT 1
Or maybe traffic signals would work? Or they could just use single deckers like they have done for about 25 years? If they put a decker on in error or changeover and it hits the bridge, insurance won't pay out. Single deck work happened around 1999. First employed a full time insurance bloke. His job was to look out for everything that needed fixing, improving or sorting. Passenger fall frauds, accidents being brought in front of court. Blame/claim. He was an ex-copper. He's passed away now. I forget his name
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 3, 2022 7:59:37 GMT 1
37734 & 37735 Bradford to Halifax bustimes.org has these going from Bradford to Huddersfield BusTimes gets more and more unreliable as the months go on as anyone can change stuff and people often try and guess
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Post by wibble on Aug 3, 2022 8:07:30 GMT 1
bustimes.org has these going from Bradford to Huddersfield BusTimes gets more and more unreliable as the months go on as anyone can change stuff and people often try and guess 37731 transferred from Bradford to Huddersfield last night
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Post by Username on Aug 3, 2022 8:57:42 GMT 1
Or maybe traffic signals would work? Or they could just use single deckers like they have done for about 25 years? Not a solution. You obviously haven't seen how full the 548/9 gets even before the frequency was reduced to every 20 minutes.
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Post by jus363 on Aug 3, 2022 13:38:54 GMT 1
With the recent 377++ transfers to Halifax & Huddersfield be interesting to see if 37730 & 37732 move over as these are in city of Bradford & the old Bradford colours.
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Post by gledhill56 on Aug 3, 2022 13:44:12 GMT 1
With the recent 377++ transfers to Halifax & Huddersfield be interesting to see if 37730 & 37732 move over as these are in city of Bradford & the the old Bradford colours. Given First’s current form for transferring or withdrawing recently repainted vehicles I wouldn’t rule it out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2022 13:47:54 GMT 1
Or they could just use single deckers like they have done for about 25 years? Not a solution. You obviously haven't seen how full the 548/9 gets even before the frequency was reduced to every 20 minutes. Considering how busy the road gets around that area sticking traffic lights up would create as many problems as they would solve,you might as well split the route in Brighouse if deckers really are needed on the Halifax > Brighouse section
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 3, 2022 17:23:39 GMT 1
If the 548/549 were overflowing with passengers why didn’t they increase the frequency (in the pre-COVID no shortage of drivers era) or even just at peak times? Suggests to me single decks were sufficient
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Post by michael1971 on Aug 3, 2022 17:31:31 GMT 1
37727 at Huddersfield aswell now photo of it on flicker with Huddersfield skylines
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Post by Username on Aug 3, 2022 18:21:34 GMT 1
If the 548/549 were overflowing with passengers why didn’t they increase the frequency (in the pre-COVID no shortage of drivers era) or even just at peak times? Suggests to me single decks were sufficient Not really proof at all. It's not as easy as that to increase a frequency. There could have been a number of reasons, such as not enough drivers, not enough buses or surely just not enough money.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Aug 3, 2022 21:38:12 GMT 1
37727 at Huddersfield aswell now photo of it on flicker with Huddersfield skylines Was on the 503 3/8/22
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Post by admin on Aug 3, 2022 22:09:07 GMT 1
If the 548/549 were overflowing with passengers why didn’t they increase the frequency (in the pre-COVID no shortage of drivers era) or even just at peak times? Suggests to me single decks were sufficient Not really proof at all. It's not as easy as that to increase a frequency. There could have been a number of reasons, such as not enough drivers, not enough buses or surely just not enough money. Firstly, huge reality check needed. If you think Westyorkshirebuses’ eminently more sensible plan to reinstate the frequency is “not that easy” then why on earth would you instead propose a hugely expensive traffic light installation just to satisfy a possible desire of the local bus operator. Secondly, this conversation needs to be over. I have neither the time nor patience to delete the recent pointless additions to this thread so please only post anything below which is relevant to the topic. This is not the first time that certain members have derailed a whole thread to talk about irrelevances. I’ll repeat my previous suggestion for forum members to use private messaging or the canteen to have idle chatter about which London operator you would specifically like Halifax to get potential second hand buses from. Thanks all
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Post by Username on Aug 3, 2022 23:49:24 GMT 1
Genuine question, are the 693xx and 694xx eclipses at Huddersfield being swapped for B9TL Geminis? As I two 377s arrived for Huddersfield whereas two 693s left for Hunslet Park.
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Post by handyandy67 on Aug 4, 2022 1:25:17 GMT 1
HOT OFF THE PRESSES
two more buses for Bradford
63430 BJ 22 VCT 63431 BJ 22 VCU
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