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Post by pricel on Feb 22, 2024 18:34:00 GMT 1
With the re-routing of the Siddal bus service 543 (541/2), I think there was a missed opportunity for Matalan and Halifax Minister to receive a bus service. At the moment, the 543 doesn't have any bus stops between Halifax Bus Station and Siddal New Road which limits the potential for the bus service. I would re-design the service towards Siddal to serve Halifax Sainsbury's bus stop and giving the bus stop a number of 31 (to fit with the Halifax stop numbers), then a new bus stop added on Lower Kirkgate between Matalan and Halifax Minister, an extra stop on Berry Lane outside the Nestle Factory entrance for the Industrial Site and the Nestle Factory workers and finally a bus stop at the bottom of Jubilee Street to serve the terraced houses along Jubilee Street and Trooper Lane. There are temporary stops by Halifax Minster, there may be others They probably don’t exist on the national database yet which is why they don’t appear anywhere online Might have to give the route a try then.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 18:39:39 GMT 1
On the way back from Siddal, the same stops will be served apart from Sainsbury's with the service being designed to serve the on-street Halifax Bus Rail Interchange (when constructed) and then the Charles Street bus stop (where National Express Coaches leave from currently). Your being generous calling it an interchange, since the plans for Halifax Rail Station was 'paused' all that's being built is a few bus stops within 5-10 minutes walk from the Rail Station.
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Post by pricel on Feb 22, 2024 18:44:01 GMT 1
On the way back from Siddal, the same stops will be served apart from Sainsbury's with the service being designed to serve the on-street Halifax Bus Rail Interchange (when constructed) and then the Charles Street bus stop (where National Express Coaches leave from currently). Your being generous calling it an interchange, since the plans for Halifax Rail Station was 'paused' all that's being built is a few bus stops within 5-10 minutes walk from the Rail Station. Leeds one was known as an interchange. An interchange doesn't have to be an indoor facility, there are plenty busy bus stops in wy referred as an Interchange by Metro such as Denby Dale Rail Stn, Ripponden Halifax Rd and Pellon Golden Pleasant.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 19:02:45 GMT 1
Your being generous calling it an interchange, since the plans for Halifax Rail Station was 'paused' all that's being built is a few bus stops within 5-10 minutes walk from the Rail Station. Leeds one was known as an interchange. An interchange doesn't have to be an indoor facility, there are plenty busy bus stops in wy referred as an Interchange by Metro such as Denby Dale Rail Stn, Ripponden Halifax Rd and Pellon Golden Pleasant. (This is probably one for the infrastructure thread but anyway) I Wasn't meaning it needed to be a indoor facility, The Leeds Interchange had the bus stops close together outside the rail station (until recently changes) with similar at Denby Dale. Ripponden 'Interchange' (more of a Bus Hub) has the main connection spot sharing a shelter with the other only a minute or 2 across the road, similar with Pellon Interchange/Hub (although I've never actually heard anyone refer to Pellon as a Interchange since Metro first 'opened' it in the early 00s). The Halifax one is more spread out than any of those examples. Considering where the stops are planned I'd say they are bus stops near the Rail Station, not an interchange. Attachments:
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Post by pricel on Feb 22, 2024 19:12:14 GMT 1
Leeds one was known as an interchange. An interchange doesn't have to be an indoor facility, there are plenty busy bus stops in wy referred as an Interchange by Metro such as Denby Dale Rail Stn, Ripponden Halifax Rd and Pellon Golden Pleasant. (This is probably one for the infrastructure thread but anyway) I Wasn't meaning it needed to be a indoor facility, The Leeds Interchange had the bus stops close together outside the rail station (until recently changes) with similar at Denby Dale. Ripponden 'Interchange' (more of a Bus Hub) has the main connection spot sharing a shelter with the other only a minute or 2 across the road, similar with Pellon Interchange/Hub (although I've never actually heard anyone refer to Pellon as a Interchange since Metro first 'opened' it in the early 00s). The Halifax one is more spread out than any of those examples. Considering where the stops are planned I'd say they are bus stops near the Rail Station, not an interchange. If you go to the bus stop at Pellon Spring Hall Lane it says Pellon Interchange on it and the railway station is planned to have level access with the main road and the Eureka car Park will be shared with the railway station so I would consider it an interchange as it would be a max of a 2 minute walk across the car park.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 19:28:50 GMT 1
(This is probably one for the infrastructure thread but anyway) I Wasn't meaning it needed to be a indoor facility, The Leeds Interchange had the bus stops close together outside the rail station (until recently changes) with similar at Denby Dale. Ripponden 'Interchange' (more of a Bus Hub) has the main connection spot sharing a shelter with the other only a minute or 2 across the road, similar with Pellon Interchange/Hub (although I've never actually heard anyone refer to Pellon as a Interchange since Metro first 'opened' it in the early 00s). The Halifax one is more spread out than any of those examples. Considering where the stops are planned I'd say they are bus stops near the Rail Station, not an interchange. If you go to the bus stop at Pellon Spring Hall Lane it says Pellon Interchange on it and the railway station is planned to have level access with the main road and the Eureka car Park will be shared with the railway station so I would consider it an interchange as it would be a max of a 2 minute walk across the car park. The moving of the car park might not be happened due to ongoing 'pause', but to me this seems like a cheap attempt at an interchange. Over Pellon, I know that there's couple of posters stating it's an Interchange, I was meaning i've never heard any locals really call it that (although I've not been up that end in the past couple of years). To be blunt IMO doing cheap attempts at interchanges just becomes an excuse not to develop proper ones.
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Post by pricel on Feb 22, 2024 19:54:43 GMT 1
If you go to the bus stop at Pellon Spring Hall Lane it says Pellon Interchange on it and the railway station is planned to have level access with the main road and the Eureka car Park will be shared with the railway station so I would consider it an interchange as it would be a max of a 2 minute walk across the car park. The moving of the car park might not be happened due to ongoing 'pause', but to me this seems like a cheap attempt at an interchange. Over Pellon, I know that there's couple of posters stating it's an Interchange, I was meaning i've never heard any locals really call it that (although I've not been up that end in the past couple of years). To be blunt IMO doing cheap attempts at interchanges just becomes an excuse not to develop proper ones. Yeah fair enough but I think the stops are reasonable as I don't think a town like Halifax warrants 2 bus stations.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 20:12:04 GMT 1
The moving of the car park might not be happened due to ongoing 'pause', but to me this seems like a cheap attempt at an interchange. Over Pellon, I know that there's couple of posters stating it's an Interchange, I was meaning i've never heard any locals really call it that (although I've not been up that end in the past couple of years). To be blunt IMO doing cheap attempts at interchanges just becomes an excuse not to develop proper ones. Yeah fair enough but I think the stops are reasonable as I don't think a town like Halifax warrants 2 bus stations. I Agree it doesn't need 2 bus stations, but there could of been ways to improve things without building another bus station or just be honest & say it's improved bus stops nearer to the station rather than selling it as a interchange, otherwise we might as well be calling the likes of Todmorden & Crossflatts/Bingley interchanges as well.
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Post by pricel on Feb 22, 2024 20:36:12 GMT 1
Yeah fair enough but I think the stops are reasonable as I don't think a town like Halifax warrants 2 bus stations. I Agree it doesn't need 2 bus stations, but there could of been ways to improve things without building another bus station or just be honest & say it's improved bus stops nearer to the station rather than selling it as a interchange, otherwise we might as well be calling the likes of Todmorden & Crossflatts/Bingley interchanges as well. To be fair the 615/6/9, 622 and K4 in Bingley do stop right outside the station entrance so it could be considered an Interchange.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 21:01:04 GMT 1
I Agree it doesn't need 2 bus stations, but there could of been ways to improve things without building another bus station or just be honest & say it's improved bus stops nearer to the station rather than selling it as a interchange, otherwise we might as well be calling the likes of Todmorden & Crossflatts/Bingley interchanges as well. To be fair the 615/6/9, 622 and K4 in Bingley do stop right outside the station entrance so it could be considered an Interchange. possibly if you didn't have the car park in between the two.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Feb 22, 2024 21:23:25 GMT 1
I Agree it doesn't need 2 bus stations, but there could of been ways to improve things without building another bus station or just be honest & say it's improved bus stops nearer to the station rather than selling it as a interchange, otherwise we might as well be calling the likes of Todmorden & Crossflatts/Bingley interchanges as well. To be fair the 615/6/9, 622 and K4 in Bingley do stop right outside the station entrance so it could be considered an Interchange. Todmorden Bus/Rail Interchange
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 23:12:19 GMT 1
To be fair the 615/6/9, 622 and K4 in Bingley do stop right outside the station entrance so it could be considered an Interchange. Todmorden Bus/Rail Interchange Thinking about it i'm surprised Metro haven't done that, or at least claimed the rail station bus stop that the minibuses use as an 'interchange'
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Post by moorside on Feb 25, 2024 1:53:02 GMT 1
With City of Culture 2025 being chosen for Bradford, Tracy Brabin is trying to level up the city to be on par with Leeds, with employment being a factor. Also looking on the other thread about missing cut routes I have thought of reintroducing the old 503, possibly renumbering it 505 (which ran between Halifax and Four Lane Ends until 2015). The current route will be designed to follow the 67 and 502 providing a good every 30 minute frequency with service 67 and an every 20 minute frequency with the 502 and 526. I have also thought of routing it through Ingham Lane and Cow Hill Gate lane offering the old 502 service. Sorry for coming a bit late to this discussion, but just to say that the 502 service along Cow Hill Gate Lane and Syke Lane was only one early-morning journey which was a short-working to Causeway Foot only. I think it only went via Cow Hill Gate Lane so there was no need to reverse at Causeway Foot - it went up that way and straight back to Keighley Road. I'm not even sure if there were any bus stops along these roads. All the other 502s were straight up and down Keighley Road. IIRC, this early-morning trip survived for quite a while after the rest of the weekday 502 service was withdrawn.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Feb 25, 2024 23:27:28 GMT 1
With City of Culture 2025 being chosen for Bradford, Tracy Brabin is trying to level up the city to be on par with Leeds, with employment being a factor. Also looking on the other thread about missing cut routes I have thought of reintroducing the old 503, possibly renumbering it 505 (which ran between Halifax and Four Lane Ends until 2015). The current route will be designed to follow the 67 and 502 providing a good every 30 minute frequency with service 67 and an every 20 minute frequency with the 502 and 526. I have also thought of routing it through Ingham Lane and Cow Hill Gate lane offering the old 502 service. Sorry for coming a bit late to this discussion, but just to say that the 502 service along Cow Hill Gate Lane and Syke Lane was only one early-morning journey which was a short-working to Causeway Foot only. I think it only went via Cow Hill Gate Lane so there was no need to reverse at Causeway Foot - it went up that way and straight back to Keighley Road. I'm not even sure if there were any bus stops along these roads. All the other 502s were straight up and down Keighley Road. IIRC, this early-morning trip survived for quite a while after the rest of the weekday 502 service was withdrawn. Yes there was an early morning trip at 0550 to Causeway Foot when operated via Cow Hill Gate & Syke Lane to commence the inbound journey back to Halifax. It then performed the 0635 508 to Leeds was it was on the Leeds/Sowerby Rota iirc. Would love to see a coordinated Halifax - Riley Lane - Causeway Foot - Keighley/Bradford again one day.
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Post by pricel on Feb 27, 2024 23:54:25 GMT 1
Restoring lost connections for parts of Selby Kirklees, Wakefield and Five Towns:
A number of cuts have vastly affected communities in Wakefield from Arriva cutting several links from several places causing uproar among passengers that are still complaining from this very day! For example South Ossett and Wrenthorpe to Leeds from the cutting of services 117 and 118, the cutting of 278 has deeply affected several parts of the route with Lower Edge no longer having a direct route to Halifax Town Centre, Mirfield and Brighouse no longer having a connecting bus service and Mirfield loosing their link to Wakefield having to rely on a train that runs only a handful amount of trains connecting the areas.
Communities in Woodhouse Estate, North Altofts and Pope Street have been reduced to a bus an hour, after having more often buses in the past with them being served by 125, 146, 187 and 188 in the past.
Lost connections between Doncaster to several areas of Selby, Pontefact and Wakefield which was pretty pointless as they were well used.
Selby to Leeds frequency reduced to one bus every 2 hours despite the 64 running the exact same route to the 164 allowing an easy hourly service throughout to Selby from Leeds.
So I have thought of a handful of changes to benefit the Wakefield local area taking some ideas of other people into consideration. Best time for these ideas to come in place would be during franchising as judging on how they handling routes in neighbouring Greater Manchester, they aren't afraid of expansion like commercially ran routes are. Also the renumbering of a few routes will take place to tidy up routes matching services with their local corridor.
Wakefield Bus Review:
96 Wakefield - Sandal - West Bretton - Yorkshire Sculpture Park - Kexborough - Braugh Green - Barnsley I would re-route this service to follow the 96B/C between Sandal Asda and Crigglestone serving Durkar Lane in replacement for the loss of the 107.
107/107A Wakefield - Thornes Road - Durkar - Kettlethorpe - Sandal Asda I would re-route this route to follow the 108 (X1) direct along Denby Dale Road (A636) out of Wakefield City Centre. Then instead of having the service run straight down Durkar Road I would re-route the service along Denby Dale Road West and Grove Park in Calder Grove restoring a more regular service to Calder Grove. To cover for the loss of service on Durkar Lane, the 96 will be re-routed to serve Durkar Lane. Services on Thornes Road will be replaced by the new service 127. Extra peak trip services will still run via Thornes Lane as service 107A allowing workers to travel from Thornes and Horbury Road to Crigglestone Business Park.
108 Wakefield - Calder Grove - Clayton West - Skelmanthorpe - Denby Dale - Shepley - Holmfirth This service is the renumbered X1 Holmfirth Explorer service. The reasoning behind the re-numbering is to allow a combined half hourly service along Denby Dale Road between Wakefield and Calder Grove with passengers being able to see that the services serve similar areas. Also another reasoning is that there is nothing "expressy" about the Holmfirth Explorer as it is a pretty slow route. A third reason is First now also have an X1 service in the Kirklees Area. An hourly evening and Sunday timetable will also be introduced apposed to every 2 hours allowing Shepley to have a more regular bus service during Sundays.
114 Wakefield - Peacock Estate - Flanshaw - Alverthorpe
This will be the renumbered 104 service. I would re-route this service Peacock Estate and swap it around with the 212 service allowing Peacock Estate to return to a half hourly service and allowing 212 to have less restrictions for when journeys get busier.
115 Wakefield - Alverthorpe - Silverwood Park - Dewsbury - Dewsbury Moor - Heckmondwike - Hartshead - Hipperholme - Halifax This will be a new service allowing faster links from Alverthorpe to Wakefield City Centre with the service running direct along Batley Road, Balme Lane and Bell Street towards the City Centre. This also provides a bus service, previously lost for Silverwood and Flanshaw Business Park. From Silverwood Park Albert Road, this service will continue along the 268 route to Dewsbury Bus Station then follow the existing 250 route to Heckmondwike and 261 route to Hartshead. From here the service will continue through Hartshead Moor Top, Bailiff Bridge, Lightcliffe and Hipperholme to Halifax. There will be a slight diversion through Lightcliffe Smith House Lane, Bentley Avenue and Greenfield Avenue before heading into Hipperholme to partially replace the 571 (in my proposed idea of replacing it with 254). The service will also be designed to run along Shibden Hall Road providing a bus service for the "Shibden Hall Village." Reasoning for this service: to customers request and restoring lost links from Halifax to Wakefield, as the amount of people wanting to travel between the two areas is bigger than you all think. Doesn't help how there is a trash train service between the 2 either, with almost all journeys involving changes at Leeds. This service will be designed to run hourly during all week daytime and evening.
116/117 Wakefield - Horbury (116) - Lupset (117) - Ossett - Shaw Cross - West Ardsley (117) - Westerton Rd (116) - White Rose Ctr - Leeds The 117 will be reintroduced to run a combined half - hourly frequency between Wakefield, Ossett, Shaw Cross, White Rose and Leeds with service 116. An hourly Saturday service will be introduced to the 116 service with an hourly evening and Sunday service between Wakefield and Shaw Cross combined with the 117 to form a half - hourly Sunday + Evening service between Shaw Cross, Gawthorpe, Ossett and Wakefield. A slight re-routing would also take place on service 116 where the route will also serve Westerton Road and Tingley to provide the area with a more faster and more frequent alternative bus service to Leeds to the 47A. The new 117 will mostly follow the same route it used to but will be re-routed along Horbury Road, Waterton Road and Lupset to allow better combined timings with service 116. Service 117 will run hourly all week.
118 Wakefield - Wrenthorpe - Stanley - 41 Business Park - Thorpe - Middleton - White Rose Ctr - Leeds This service will be extended back to Leeds restoring lost links from Wrenthorpe and Thorpe area to Leeds. I know Thorpe still has a bus to Leeds but they also had the 48 as well as the 118 previously so I think it's a reasonable exstention.
119 Wakefield - East Ardsley - Tingley - Morley - Gildersome - Drighlington - Tong Street - Bradford This service will be the new number for the 425 making it clearer that the 118 and 425 serve similar areas. I have often seen queues build up in Wakefield Bus Station for the 425 when a 118 has left 15 minutes ago and people who waited that long still hop on the 425 just to end up getting off around Wrenthorpe or East Ardsley.
123/124/125 Wakefield - Horbury - Flockton - Emley (123/4) - Grange Moor (125) - Scissett (124) - Huddersfield (124/125) These will be the new numbers for services 231, 232 and 232S matching up with the Horbury Road Corridor of services 120, 120A, 122 and 126. Service 123 will be the new number for the 232S, 124 will be the new number for 232 and 125 will be the new number for service 231.
126/127 Wakefield - Horbury - Ossett - Chickenley - Dewsbury Only judging of Facebook comments, customers want service 127 to be reintroduced as there were some links lost with the withdrawal of the 127. However, to allow the 127 to have more usage for customers I would re-route the service down Queens Street, Denby Dale Road and Thornes Road out of Wakefield. Thornes Road will also have its previous frequency restored to every half hour and certain parts of Thornes Road left without a bus service will now gain a service.
186 Wakefield - Normanton - Altofts - Castleford - Glasshoughton - Pontefract To someone else's request on this forum, I would run the service every 30 minutes between Wakefield and Castleford continuing with an hourly frequency to Pontefract in replacement of the old 187 and 188 routes.
405/408/409 Pontefract/Selby to Askern & Doncaster I would replace service 51 in Doncaster with these 3 services.
496 Wakefield - Hemsworth - South Elmsall - Upton - Doncaster I would make the runs to Doncaster more frequent so that there is 1 bus per hour to Doncaster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2024 1:29:55 GMT 1
For Route 115 do you mean Silkwood Park rather than Silverwood? Otherwise having it run via Silverwood would probably mean it be quicker to use 268/255, what with a decent connection in Cleckheaton can be done in 1hr 45Mins V around 2hrs it would take your proposed 115.
Not sure on reviving the old 496 to Doncaster full time, as it's only really Upton without a rail station so it would probably serve more purpose to find a way to introduce the proposed frequency upgrades to the line sooner (4PH Leeds - Wakefield - Fitzwilliam with 2PH to Sheffield Via Moorthorpe/Rotherham & 2PH to Doncaster via South Elmsall).
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Feb 28, 2024 16:52:06 GMT 1
There are temporary stops by Halifax Minster, there may be others They probably don’t exist on the national database yet which is why they don’t appear anywhere online Might have to give the route a try then. Possibly going back onto the previous route between Halifax and Siddal in the near future due to complaints about going via Bailey Hall due to the narrow road, bend, hill and cobbles and the fact it doesn't stop anywhere in town.
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Post by pricel on Feb 28, 2024 17:13:20 GMT 1
For Route 115 do you mean Silkwood Park rather than Silverwood? Otherwise having it run via Silverwood would probably mean it be quicker to use 268/255, what with a decent connection in Cleckheaton can be done in 1hr 45Mins V around 2hrs it would take your proposed 115. Not sure on reviving the old 496 to Doncaster full time, as it's only really Upton without a rail station so it would probably serve more purpose to find a way to introduce the proposed frequency upgrades to the line sooner (4PH Leeds - Wakefield - Fitzwilliam with 2PH to Sheffield Via Moorthorpe/Rotherham & 2PH to Doncaster via South Elmsall). Silkwood park I meant. Didn't matter how long the 278 took people still used it to connect over changing from 255 to 425 in the past or something like 255 to 268 like you mentioned. Plus the 268 is a hotspot for delays not really the best to suggest changing on to it.
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Post by pricel on Feb 28, 2024 17:15:14 GMT 1
Might have to give the route a try then. Possibly going back onto the previous route between Halifax and Siddal in the near future due to complaints about going via Bailey Hall due to the narrow road, bend, hill and cobbles and the fact it doesn't stop anywhere in town. Considering how market street is going to be pedestrianized it would be a waste. It would be better if there was a bus stop outside the Woolshops for the bus to serve.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Feb 28, 2024 17:55:45 GMT 1
Possibly going back onto the previous route between Halifax and Siddal in the near future due to complaints about going via Bailey Hall due to the narrow road, bend, hill and cobbles and the fact it doesn't stop anywhere in town. Considering how market street is going to be pedestrianized it would be a waste. It would be better if there was a bus stop outside the Woolshops for the bus to serve. It would run outbound via Waterhouse Street & Commercial Street. Inbound via Horton Street (downill)
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Post by pricel on Feb 28, 2024 21:14:02 GMT 1
Considering how market street is going to be pedestrianized it would be a waste. It would be better if there was a bus stop outside the Woolshops for the bus to serve. It would run outbound via Waterhouse Street & Commercial Street. Inbound via Horton Street (downill) The reason I prefer the new route as it should allow double deckers even though they have only put 1 on so far. Some Siddal buses do suffer from overcrowding and it's been like that for years. If more bus stops were placed along the new route at Key locations it would have been useful. It would be a good idea to run down Hornton then King Street, like you just said to serve the town centre.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2024 23:59:54 GMT 1
For Route 115 do you mean Silkwood Park rather than Silverwood? Otherwise having it run via Silverwood would probably mean it be quicker to use 268/255, what with a decent connection in Cleckheaton can be done in 1hr 45Mins V around 2hrs it would take your proposed 115. Not sure on reviving the old 496 to Doncaster full time, as it's only really Upton without a rail station so it would probably serve more purpose to find a way to introduce the proposed frequency upgrades to the line sooner (4PH Leeds - Wakefield - Fitzwilliam with 2PH to Sheffield Via Moorthorpe/Rotherham & 2PH to Doncaster via South Elmsall). Silkwood park I meant. Didn't matter how long the 278 took people still used it to connect over changing from 255 to 425 in the past or something like 255 to 268 like you mentioned. Plus the 268 is a hotspot for delays not really the best to suggest changing on to it. The only reason I mentioned the timing was because you had said Silverwood, what would of resulted in fairly major detour around Ossett. I'd say journey times does matter although now you've corrected to say Silkwood Park that would give a journey time only about 5-10 min slower than 278 (what did Wakefield - Halifax in 1hr 40 assuming the motorway junctions was clear) what isn't too bad. I only suggested 255/268 connection as Cleckheaton has a bus station, I Doubt many if any would do 425/255 connection at Drighlington - you might as well do 425 to Bradford then 681 for that option.
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Post by pricel on Feb 29, 2024 0:32:51 GMT 1
Silkwood park I meant. Didn't matter how long the 278 took people still used it to connect over changing from 255 to 425 in the past or something like 255 to 268 like you mentioned. Plus the 268 is a hotspot for delays not really the best to suggest changing on to it. The only reason I mentioned the timing was because you had said Silverwood, what would of resulted in fairly major detour around Ossett. I'd say journey times does matter although now you've corrected to say Silkwood Park that would give a journey time only about 5-10 min slower than 278 (what did Wakefield - Halifax in 1hr 40 assuming the motorway junctions was clear) what isn't too bad. I only suggested 255/268 connection as Cleckheaton has a bus station, I Doubt many if any would do 425/255 connection at Drighlington - you might as well do 425 to Bradford then 681 for that option. According to google maps, the if you put in a route from Dewsbury to Wakefield Bus Station it actually says running through Silverwood Park is the faster routes as you don't have to route through slow roads in the city centre and there's less traffic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2024 0:47:17 GMT 1
The only reason I mentioned the timing was because you had said Silverwood, what would of resulted in fairly major detour around Ossett. I'd say journey times does matter although now you've corrected to say Silkwood Park that would give a journey time only about 5-10 min slower than 278 (what did Wakefield - Halifax in 1hr 40 assuming the motorway junctions was clear) what isn't too bad. I only suggested 255/268 connection as Cleckheaton has a bus station, I Doubt many if any would do 425/255 connection at Drighlington - you might as well do 425 to Bradford then 681 for that option. According to google maps, the if you put in a route from Dewsbury to Wakefield Bus Station it actually says running through Silverwood Park is the faster routes as you don't have to route through slow roads in the city centre and there's less traffic. Again do you mean Silkwood Park (next to the motorway junction where the Amazon is) ? The nearest place matching 'Silverwood Park' is Silverwood Grange what's on the Runtlings Estate on the opposite side of Ossett hence my asking as that would be a fairly big diversion. To be honest there's enough space available on the main Dewsbury Road to extend the bus lane from Morrisons right upto the Motorway junction, so I'd probably look at that meaning city traffic wouldn't be an issue.
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Post by pricel on Feb 29, 2024 19:04:17 GMT 1
According to google maps, the if you put in a route from Dewsbury to Wakefield Bus Station it actually says running through Silverwood Park is the faster routes as you don't have to route through slow roads in the city centre and there's less traffic. Again do you mean Silkwood Park (next to the motorway junction where the Amazon is) ? The nearest place matching 'Silverwood Park' is Silverwood Grange what's on the Runtlings Estate on the opposite side of Ossett hence my asking as that would be a fairly big diversion. To be honest there's enough space available on the main Dewsbury Road to extend the bus lane from Morrisons right upto the Motorway junction, so I'd probably look at that meaning city traffic wouldn't be an issue. Yes I do mean Silkwood Park, my brain just keeps thinking Silverwood as it has a better ring to it 😂
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