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Post by Username on Feb 18, 2022 10:52:39 GMT 1
Arriva Yorkshire operates a handful of services in Selby but many customers feel like they don't really get the service they deserve. Many passengers on a Sunday who live around Sherburn take the train when they need to do some shopping or hang out with people but many people don't like the price of the railway. However, other areas are unlucky as they have to walk around 2-5 miles to get to Selby.
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Post by stephen01 on Feb 18, 2022 11:07:43 GMT 1
Arriva Yorkshire operates a handful of services in Selby but many customers feel like they don't really get the service they deserve. Many passengers on a Sunday who live around Sherburn take the train when they need to do some shopping or hang out with people but many people don't like the price of the railway. However, other areas are unlucky as they have to walk around 2-5 miles to get to Selby. The Sunday services got axed by NYCC to save on funding. For a while before the pandemic the 42 had a Sunday service funded by the Parish Councils but got dropped in the end due to low custom and that was including plenty of localised publicity. If people feel the demand is there they need to speak to the NYCC team to see if a service can be introduced on a use it or lose it trial basis and if the demand is decent and doesnt prove to be a loss it will keep going. |
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Post by twy7 on Feb 18, 2022 12:10:24 GMT 1
Arriva Yorkshire operates a handful of services in Selby but many customers feel like they don't really get the service they deserve. Many passengers on a Sunday who live around Sherburn take the train when they need to do some shopping or hang out with people but many people don't like the price of the railway. However, other areas are unlucky as they have to walk around 2-5 miles to get to Selby. Every time I have been to selby it is only 415 that has a lot on and most on other service are for school and college. But I have never been to sherburn so do not know if it is busy there. |
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Post by selbybus on Feb 18, 2022 20:19:04 GMT 1
The demand is just not there in the Selby area. I have travelled for alot of years on the Selby network and seen it increase and decrease, without funding alot of the network is just not viable. Before anyone says we’ll if Arriva ran more evening, Sunday or more frequent service then people would use it, it’s all been done before and people just didn’t use it, if you don’t use it you loose it. Only the 415 is profitable in my opinion and even that is seeing less and less people.
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Post by burtonsa02 on Feb 18, 2022 22:46:34 GMT 1
I am a bit mixed on this as I feel like they do care but at the same time not really. I will admit the routes lack a bit as not enough evenings, Sunday workings etc. However I feel like they have improved with buses though. As 1453 is currently there and other pulsars and Evolutions (If you call that an improvement from tiger) which have replaced the Commanders/E400s.
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Post by joseph on Feb 19, 2022 7:33:09 GMT 1
It's a weird one really regarding Sherburn alone, it had a evening and Sunday service for donkeys years so where did it all go wrong? You could blame the ever extended daytime journey time forcing more people to drive or take up driving lessons.
The train isn't to blame because the nearest train station (South Milford) is a good hike from sizeable parts of the village such as Moor Road or what ever it's called, taking the road from the cross roads it's a good 20 minute plus walk for example which doesn't sound much, but is if you're carrying something back, it's raining, snowing, freezing, too hot, you're too tired after a long day and so on. The bus, although a bit longer evenings and Sundays, did take people right through the village much closer to home.
What's stranger is that Sherburn is bigger than Ripponden and Rishworth combined, with a similar housing set up to those areas, e.g. a mix of council housing, bought middle income housing, higher end housing etc, yet Ripponden alone has a nice little network of Sunday services to Halifax and Huddersfield, with both Ripponden and Rishworth having a good evening service to Halifax, obviously NYCC don't see any value in supporting evening and Sunday services to town size areas (Sherburn being the size of a town nowadays) where as WYCA think supporting such services to smaller villages is a good idea. Maybe Sherburn and Selby residents ought to campaign to be brought under West Yorkshire, after all because of some strange quirk, the North Yorkshire boundary seems to slip down south a bit before heading north again after Selby.
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Post by deerfold on Feb 19, 2022 12:14:59 GMT 1
What's stranger is that Sherburn is bigger than Ripponden and Rishworth combined, with a similar housing set up to those areas, e.g. a mix of council housing, bought middle income housing, higher end housing etc, yet Ripponden alone has a nice little network of Sunday services to Halifax and Huddersfield, with both Ripponden and Rishworth having a good evening service to Halifax, obviously NYCC don't see any value in supporting evening and Sunday services to town size areas (Sherburn being the size of a town nowadays) where as WYCA think supporting such services to smaller villages is a good idea. Maybe Sherburn and Selby residents ought to campaign to be brought under West Yorkshire, after all because of some strange quirk, the North Yorkshire boundary seems to slip down south a bit before heading north again after Selby. Ripponden and Rishworth have had massive reductions in service in recent years. It's not long since the Sunday service to Ripponden was half hourly, but now has plenty of two hour gaps. The last services via Mill Bank and Barkisland are getting earlier and earlier. It's only in 2015 that there was a daily 2320 from Halifax to Rishworth via Barkisland. Now the last service to Rishworth is 2230 (2120 on a Sunday). The last service via Barkisland is now 1850 during the week, 1820 on a Saturday and 1715 on a Sunday. The last service to Rochdale is 4 hours earlier than it used to be. Having seen ridership, I'm expecting more cuts. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 14:20:22 GMT 1
It's a weird one really regarding Sherburn alone, it had a evening and Sunday service for donkeys years so where did it all go wrong? You could blame the ever extended daytime journey time forcing more people to drive or take up driving lessons. The train isn't to blame because the nearest train station (South Milford) is a good hike from sizeable parts of the village such as Moor Road or what ever it's called, taking the road from the cross roads it's a good 20 minute plus walk for example which doesn't sound much, but is if you're carrying something back, it's raining, snowing, freezing, too hot, you're too tired after a long day and so on. The bus, although a bit longer evenings and Sundays, did take people right through the village much closer to home. What's stranger is that Sherburn is bigger than Ripponden and Rishworth combined, with a similar housing set up to those areas, e.g. a mix of council housing, bought middle income housing, higher end housing etc, yet Ripponden alone has a nice little network of Sunday services to Halifax and Huddersfield, with both Ripponden and Rishworth having a good evening service to Halifax, obviously NYCC don't see any value in supporting evening and Sunday services to town size areas (Sherburn being the size of a town nowadays) where as WYCA think supporting such services to smaller villages is a good idea. Maybe Sherburn and Selby residents ought to campaign to be brought under West Yorkshire, after all because of some strange quirk, the North Yorkshire boundary seems to slip down south a bit before heading north again after Selby. Sherburns Sunday services as mentioned before was tendered,so NYCC cutbacks is where it went wrong on that. I'm not sure you can say the train isn't to blame,whilst Sth Milford is abit of a walk for them without a car,for them who have got cars Garforth not too long ago had a larger car park added & they've also now got the option of joining A1M/M1 to Temple Green P&R or A1M/M62 to Stourton P&R (assuming they won't drive all the way into the City Centre) When you look at the types of new housing built in Sherburn over the past 5-10 years or so its all been mostly aimed at car users (as like alot of places to be honest),so i think it's less people taking up driving & more people moving there already having a car. Theres also other factors like it's possible simply less people are looking towards Leeds,Sherburn has a large industrial area not too far away that them without cars would probably just walk to plus some with cars will no doubt spend more time going towards York rather than Leeds. Them in cars workwise also have the growing Ferrybridge industrial areas only a short hop down the A1. |
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Post by joseph on Feb 19, 2022 18:33:01 GMT 1
It's a weird one really regarding Sherburn alone, it had a evening and Sunday service for donkeys years so where did it all go wrong? You could blame the ever extended daytime journey time forcing more people to drive or take up driving lessons. The train isn't to blame because the nearest train station (South Milford) is a good hike from sizeable parts of the village such as Moor Road or what ever it's called, taking the road from the cross roads it's a good 20 minute plus walk for example which doesn't sound much, but is if you're carrying something back, it's raining, snowing, freezing, too hot, you're too tired after a long day and so on. The bus, although a bit longer evenings and Sundays, did take people right through the village much closer to home. What's stranger is that Sherburn is bigger than Ripponden and Rishworth combined, with a similar housing set up to those areas, e.g. a mix of council housing, bought middle income housing, higher end housing etc, yet Ripponden alone has a nice little network of Sunday services to Halifax and Huddersfield, with both Ripponden and Rishworth having a good evening service to Halifax, obviously NYCC don't see any value in supporting evening and Sunday services to town size areas (Sherburn being the size of a town nowadays) where as WYCA think supporting such services to smaller villages is a good idea. Maybe Sherburn and Selby residents ought to campaign to be brought under West Yorkshire, after all because of some strange quirk, the North Yorkshire boundary seems to slip down south a bit before heading north again after Selby. Sherburns Sunday services as mentioned before was tendered,so NYCC cutbacks is where it went wrong on that. I'm not sure you can say the train isn't to blame,whilst Sth Milford is abit of a walk for them without a car,for them who have got cars Garforth not too long ago had a larger car park added & they've also now got the option of joining A1M/M1 to Temple Green P&R or A1M/M62 to Stourton P&R (assuming they won't drive all the way into the City Centre) When you look at the types of new housing built in Sherburn over the past 5-10 years or so its all been mostly aimed at car users (as like alot of places to be honest),so i think it's less people taking up driving & more people moving there already having a car. Theres also other factors like it's possible simply less people are looking towards Leeds,Sherburn has a large industrial area not too far away that them without cars would probably just walk to plus some with cars will no doubt spend more time going towards York rather than Leeds. Them in cars workwise also have the growing Ferrybridge industrial areas only a short hop down the A1. The reason why I don't think the train is to blame is because services to Garforth and South Milford during evenings and Sundays have been around for many years alongside buses to Sherburn, if the train was to blame then you'd have seen the eve/Sun bus axed well before it was. Basically NYCC are to blame for being tight and not realising the potential eve/Sunday buses to Leeds have, especially bearing in the extra time needed to use South Milford station even for driving (add on 10 mins to journey time plus factor in the walk from Leeds rail station to theatres or stuff nearer Leeds Bus Station), and how much Sherburn has expanded, I think even back in the late 90s the count was something like 25,000 residents! Factor in that you have to drive further to get to a West Yorkshire station to avoid the North Yorkshire hike in fares and that all makes the bus a more viable option. Shame NYCC can't see this. |
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Post by stephen01 on Feb 19, 2022 18:58:53 GMT 1
Sherburns Sunday services as mentioned before was tendered,so NYCC cutbacks is where it went wrong on that. I'm not sure you can say the train isn't to blame,whilst Sth Milford is abit of a walk for them without a car,for them who have got cars Garforth not too long ago had a larger car park added & they've also now got the option of joining A1M/M1 to Temple Green P&R or A1M/M62 to Stourton P&R (assuming they won't drive all the way into the City Centre) When you look at the types of new housing built in Sherburn over the past 5-10 years or so its all been mostly aimed at car users (as like alot of places to be honest),so i think it's less people taking up driving & more people moving there already having a car. Theres also other factors like it's possible simply less people are looking towards Leeds,Sherburn has a large industrial area not too far away that them without cars would probably just walk to plus some with cars will no doubt spend more time going towards York rather than Leeds. Them in cars workwise also have the growing Ferrybridge industrial areas only a short hop down the A1. The reason why I don't think the train is to blame is because services to Garforth and South Milford during evenings and Sundays have been around for many years alongside buses to Sherburn, if the train was to blame then you'd have seen the eve/Sun bus axed well before it was. Basically NYCC are to blame for being tight and not realising the potential eve/Sunday buses to Leeds have, especially bearing in the extra time needed to use South Milford station even for driving (add on 10 mins to journey time plus factor in the walk from Leeds rail station to theatres or stuff nearer Leeds Bus Station), and how much Sherburn has expanded, I think even back in the late 90s the count was something like 25,000 residents! Factor in that you have to drive further to get to a West Yorkshire station to avoid the North Yorkshire hike in fares and that all makes the bus a more viable option. Shame NYCC can't see this. Metro funded a tender for evening services between Leeds & South Milford/Sherbun as the 404 which Centrebus ran for a while but that failed too |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 19:02:57 GMT 1
Sherburns Sunday services as mentioned before was tendered,so NYCC cutbacks is where it went wrong on that. I'm not sure you can say the train isn't to blame,whilst Sth Milford is abit of a walk for them without a car,for them who have got cars Garforth not too long ago had a larger car park added & they've also now got the option of joining A1M/M1 to Temple Green P&R or A1M/M62 to Stourton P&R (assuming they won't drive all the way into the City Centre) When you look at the types of new housing built in Sherburn over the past 5-10 years or so its all been mostly aimed at car users (as like alot of places to be honest),so i think it's less people taking up driving & more people moving there already having a car. Theres also other factors like it's possible simply less people are looking towards Leeds,Sherburn has a large industrial area not too far away that them without cars would probably just walk to plus some with cars will no doubt spend more time going towards York rather than Leeds. Them in cars workwise also have the growing Ferrybridge industrial areas only a short hop down the A1. The reason why I don't think the train is to blame is because services to Garforth and South Milford during evenings and Sundays have been around for many years alongside buses to Sherburn, if the train was to blame then you'd have seen the eve/Sun bus axed well before it was. Basically NYCC are to blame for being tight and not realising the potential eve/Sunday buses to Leeds have, especially bearing in the extra time needed to use South Milford station even for driving (add on 10 mins to journey time plus factor in the walk from Leeds rail station to theatres or stuff nearer Leeds Bus Station), and how much Sherburn has expanded, I think even back in the late 90s the count was something like 25,000 residents! Factor in that you have to drive further to get to a West Yorkshire station to avoid the North Yorkshire hike in fares and that all makes the bus a more viable option. Shame NYCC can't see this. I Agree the fair hikes might put people off,but South Milford station had been having year on year growth pre-covid so this could have had an affect on buses (this is why i'd rather see European style setups with buses linking to rail stations at each end & able to do it all on one ticket - but that's a different conversation) As i mentioned before for them who have cars they are also have 2 P&Rs within 25-30min drive compared to 50-60mins on a through bus Also its a little harsh to say NYCC are just being tight,like all councils they have had funding slashed so cutbacks had to be made,plus i'm guessing they did see the 'potential' when they funded them the first time around - compared to some parts of North Yorkshire they got off lightly. |
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Post by jst on Feb 19, 2022 22:29:11 GMT 1
The reason why I don't think the train is to blame is because services to Garforth and South Milford during evenings and Sundays have been around for many years alongside buses to Sherburn, if the train was to blame then you'd have seen the eve/Sun bus axed well before it was. Basically NYCC are to blame for being tight and not realising the potential eve/Sunday buses to Leeds have, especially bearing in the extra time needed to use South Milford station even for driving (add on 10 mins to journey time plus factor in the walk from Leeds rail station to theatres or stuff nearer Leeds Bus Station), and how much Sherburn has expanded, I think even back in the late 90s the count was something like 25,000 residents! Factor in that you have to drive further to get to a West Yorkshire station to avoid the North Yorkshire hike in fares and that all makes the bus a more viable option. Shame NYCC can't see this. Metro funded a tender for evening services between Leeds & South Milford/Sherbun as the 404 which Centrebus ran for a while but that failed too I used to see the 404 run through Garforth fairly frequently, it never ever seemed to carry anyone at all. I think a big kicker might be the improvement in the South Milford Sunday rail service, until recently it was in the TPE Hull service which only ran every other hour, it now has an hourly Northern service all day (even improved to half hourly at the moment, albeit temporarily!) |
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Post by stevieinselby on Feb 19, 2022 23:46:11 GMT 1
It's a weird one really regarding Sherburn alone, it had a evening and Sunday service for donkeys years so where did it all go wrong? You could blame the ever extended daytime journey time forcing more people to drive or take up driving lessons. The train isn't to blame because the nearest train station (South Milford) is a good hike from sizeable parts of the village such as Moor Road or what ever it's called, taking the road from the cross roads it's a good 20 minute plus walk for example which doesn't sound much, but is if you're carrying something back, it's raining, snowing, freezing, too hot, you're too tired after a long day and so on. The bus, although a bit longer evenings and Sundays, did take people right through the village much closer to home. What's stranger is that Sherburn is bigger than Ripponden and Rishworth combined, with a similar housing set up to those areas, e.g. a mix of council housing, bought middle income housing, higher end housing etc, yet Ripponden alone has a nice little network of Sunday services to Halifax and Huddersfield, with both Ripponden and Rishworth having a good evening service to Halifax, obviously NYCC don't see any value in supporting evening and Sunday services to town size areas (Sherburn being the size of a town nowadays) where as WYCA think supporting such services to smaller villages is a good idea. Maybe Sherburn and Selby residents ought to campaign to be brought under West Yorkshire, after all because of some strange quirk, the North Yorkshire boundary seems to slip down south a bit before heading north again after Selby. On the Selby network, the 400/401 to Goole and 402/403/406 to Sherburn and Leeds haven't had commercial evening or Sunday services for at least 15 years, if not a lot longer. NYCC made a policy decision to cut all funding for evening and Sunday services in 2014, which saw the end of Sunday buses to Sherburn and Leeds; the Sunday service to Goole was funded by ERYC and that lasted a little longer but that funding has dried up as well. The 405/407/X45 to Doncaster kept its Sunday service until 2017, but I'm not sure if that was run commercially or funded by SYPTE. One big difference between Sherburn/South Milford and Ripponden/Rishworth is that S/SM has other options – trains to Leeds and Selby every hour from South Milford, and to York and Selby/Hull every 1–2 hours from Sherburn – which isn't there for R/R. Another difference is that there isn't a lot happening in Selby on a Sunday, the supermarkets and the leisure centre are open but not a huge amount else. But the main difference is that R/R are in West Yorkshire, and the Team Pennine and TLC services that make up most of the Sunday timetable are subsidised by Metro. |
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Post by Username on Feb 22, 2022 15:17:32 GMT 1
What's stranger is that Sherburn is bigger than Ripponden and Rishworth combined, with a similar housing set up to those areas, e.g. a mix of council housing, bought middle income housing, higher end housing etc, yet Ripponden alone has a nice little network of Sunday services to Halifax and Huddersfield, with both Ripponden and Rishworth having a good evening service to Halifax, obviously NYCC don't see any value in supporting evening and Sunday services to town size areas (Sherburn being the size of a town nowadays) where as WYCA think supporting such services to smaller villages is a good idea. Maybe Sherburn and Selby residents ought to campaign to be brought under West Yorkshire, after all because of some strange quirk, the North Yorkshire boundary seems to slip down south a bit before heading north again after Selby. Ripponden and Rishworth have had massive reductions in service in recent years. It's not long since the Sunday service to Ripponden was half hourly, but now has plenty of two hour gaps. The last services via Mill Bank and Barkisland are getting earlier and earlier. It's only in 2015 that there was a daily 2320 from Halifax to Rishworth via Barkisland. Now the last service to Rishworth is 2230 (2120 on a Sunday). The last service via Barkisland is now 1850 during the week, 1820 on a Saturday and 1715 on a Sunday. The last service to Rochdale is 4 hours earlier than it used to be. Having seen ridership, I'm expecting more cuts. Ripponden still sees a half hourly service from Halifax with the 561/562. |
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Post by Username on Feb 22, 2022 15:22:02 GMT 1
What's stranger is that Sherburn is bigger than Ripponden and Rishworth combined, with a similar housing set up to those areas, e.g. a mix of council housing, bought middle income housing, higher end housing etc, yet Ripponden alone has a nice little network of Sunday services to Halifax and Huddersfield, with both Ripponden and Rishworth having a good evening service to Halifax, obviously NYCC don't see any value in supporting evening and Sunday services to town size areas (Sherburn being the size of a town nowadays) where as WYCA think supporting such services to smaller villages is a good idea. Maybe Sherburn and Selby residents ought to campaign to be brought under West Yorkshire, after all because of some strange quirk, the North Yorkshire boundary seems to slip down south a bit before heading north again after Selby. Ripponden and Rishworth have had massive reductions in service in recent years. It's not long since the Sunday service to Ripponden was half hourly, but now has plenty of two hour gaps. The last services via Mill Bank and Barkisland are getting earlier and earlier. It's only in 2015 that there was a daily 2320 from Halifax to Rishworth via Barkisland. Now the last service to Rishworth is 2230 (2120 on a Sunday). The last service via Barkisland is now 1850 during the week, 1820 on a Saturday and 1715 on a Sunday. The last service to Rochdale is 4 hours earlier than it used to be. Having seen ridership, I'm expecting more cuts. Ripponden will probably not see more cuts as the demand for housing development has increased. Around 15 years ago saw the rise of newly built houses on Rochdale Road. In 2017 a new riverside housing development was added on Mill Fold Way next to the River Ryburn and right now in construction is Victoria Meadows next to JLA. One thing I also noticed, is that the 561/562 have increased in passenger loads since the new Mellor arrived with regular customers to rural villages like Mill Bank, Soyland, Norland and even a hamlet like Krumlim or Cottonstones. |
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Post by deerfold on Feb 22, 2022 23:30:24 GMT 1
Ripponden and Rishworth have had massive reductions in service in recent years. It's not long since the Sunday service to Ripponden was half hourly, but now has plenty of two hour gaps. The last services via Mill Bank and Barkisland are getting earlier and earlier. It's only in 2015 that there was a daily 2320 from Halifax to Rishworth via Barkisland. Now the last service to Rishworth is 2230 (2120 on a Sunday). The last service via Barkisland is now 1850 during the week, 1820 on a Saturday and 1715 on a Sunday. The last service to Rochdale is 4 hours earlier than it used to be. Having seen ridership, I'm expecting more cuts. Ripponden will probably not see more cuts as the demand for housing development has increased. Around 15 years ago saw the rise of newly built houses on Rochdale Road. In 2017 a new riverside housing development was added on Mill Fold Way next to the River Ryburn and right now in construction is Victoria Meadows next to JLA. One thing I also noticed, is that the 561/562 have increased in passenger loads since the new Mellor arrived with regular customers to rural villages like Mill Bank, Soyland, Norland and even a hamlet like Krumlim or Cottonstones. There's more housing, but few of the people arriving seem to use the bus. Loads are well down on a few years ago, despite there being fewer trips and evening and Sunday services are now scarce, making it harder to attract people onto the services. I used to commute to Halifax from Ripponden - in the hour between 0800 and 0900 there were 4 buses along the main road arriving in Halifax. Now you can arrive at 0814 or 0821. For early starters there's only 2 buses before those. I only get the bus to Ripponden occasionally now, but they all seem to be very quiet. |
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Post by deerfold on Feb 22, 2022 23:39:10 GMT 1
Ripponden and Rishworth have had massive reductions in service in recent years. It's not long since the Sunday service to Ripponden was half hourly, but now has plenty of two hour gaps. The last services via Mill Bank and Barkisland are getting earlier and earlier. It's only in 2015 that there was a daily 2320 from Halifax to Rishworth via Barkisland. Now the last service to Rishworth is 2230 (2120 on a Sunday). The last service via Barkisland is now 1850 during the week, 1820 on a Saturday and 1715 on a Sunday. The last service to Rochdale is 4 hours earlier than it used to be. Having seen ridership, I'm expecting more cuts. Ripponden still sees a half hourly service from Halifax with the 561/562. The 561 takes 47 minutes. An interesting ride for an occasional trip out, but it's along bumpy roads and takes 3 times as long as driving along the main road. You expect the bus to be slower, but not that much slower. And the last buses are still very early. I used to be able to get back from places remarkably late, and used to leave Bradford around 2250 by train to connect to a bus to Ripponden at Sowerby Bridge any night of the week. |
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Post by Username on Feb 23, 2022 10:45:45 GMT 1
Ripponden will probably not see more cuts as the demand for housing development has increased. Around 15 years ago saw the rise of newly built houses on Rochdale Road. In 2017 a new riverside housing development was added on Mill Fold Way next to the River Ryburn and right now in construction is Victoria Meadows next to JLA. One thing I also noticed, is that the 561/562 have increased in passenger loads since the new Mellor arrived with regular customers to rural villages like Mill Bank, Soyland, Norland and even a hamlet like Krumlim or Cottonstones. There's more housing, but few of the people arriving seem to use the bus. Loads are well down on a few years ago, despite there being fewer trips and evening and Sunday services are now scarce, making it harder to attract people onto the services. I used to commute to Halifax from Ripponden - in the hour between 0800 and 0900 there were 4 buses along the main road arriving in Halifax. Now you can arrive at 0814 or 0821. For early starters there's only 2 buses before those. I only get the bus to Ripponden occasionally now, but they all seem to be very quiet. I commute on the 586/587 every day and they seem to be used quite regularly. Yes on some late night journeys only about 3 people get on but in the daytime usually around on average a load of 12 passengers to Ripponden/to Halifax. A few people may travel further into Rochdale or Rishworth but usually on the 586, around 8 people travel further towards Rishworth and then after the St Johns Close bus stop at Rishworth usually you have around 1 or 2 people that get off for Godly Lane, Regal Drive or Rishworth Hall Close. These are off peak measurements btw. The 7:27 journey from Commons on the 586 is the most busiest service with a lot of school kids and commuters. The 09:55 journey from Commons again is also a busy one as a lot of the elderly people use it since their pass is useable from 9:30. As well as this the afternoon rush hour and lunch has quite a busy load. Off peak is not usually as busy but people still use the service. The 586 service on a Monday to Friday start quite early arriving into Ripponden arround 5 to 6 in the morning and the latest bus leaves Commons at 23:01. The 561/562 see fair passenger loads as those are the only buses you can get from Halifax to Barkisland and Norland since the 343 was cut to run down Brian Royd Lane in Greetland instead. The 561 up to Mill Bank on around average is 5 people, to Cottonstones (Alma Inn) is usually about 0 or 1 and then Soyland sees around 2 or 3 people usually. The 561 and 562 isn't usually used for heading from Halifax to Ripponden they are there to give opportunity for local residents of Millbank, Soyland, Krumlim and Cottonstones to head into local towns or villages like Sowerby Bridge and Ripponden. |
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Post by deerfold on Feb 23, 2022 11:09:47 GMT 1
The 561 and 562 isn't usually used for heading from Halifax to Ripponden they are there to give opportunity for local residents of Millbank, Soyland, Krumlim and Cottonstones to head into local towns or villages like Sowerby Bridge and Ripponden. Well quite - which is why I wasn't sure why you were using them to show Ripponden had a half-hourly service from Halifax on a Sunday. When the 564/6 didn't go via Copley before going round Mill Bank they could be worth catching if you'd missed a bus along the main road as they weren't much slower. |
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