Rosso's new routes.

[Username]

As stated by Alex Hornby, Rosso will be recieving new routes which will include the Trax buses being repainted into the two tone yellow rather than orange and yellow. I am here to start a discussion on possible contracts they may win from TFGM.

149 North Manchester Royal Hospital to Oldham
183 Limeside to Royal Oldham Hosptal

[westyorkshirebus]

Where is the source of the Trax buses being repainted?

[Username]

Jan 23, 2022 0:34:00 GMT 1 westyorkshirebus said:

Where is the source of the Trax buses being repainted?

Trandev Enthusiasts, link to join facebook group here: www.facebook.com/groups/transdevbus

[gledhill56]

So the only source is on a private group on a social media platform that not everyone has access to?

[Username]

Jan 23, 2022 12:07:51 GMT 1 gledhill56 said:

So the only source is on a private group on a social media platform that not everyone has access to?

It is, but it contains photo images of an ex trax Streetlite being repainted.

[westyorkshirebus]

Trax used to run every 10 mins, then was reduced to every 15 mins post Covid and is currently running only every 20 mins due to the driver shortage

I’m guessing it will never go back to every 10 mins, so 3 buses are leaving the brand, leaving 7 to run every 15 mins

[SF07]

It's likely that Rosso will operate the revised/new routes in Rochdale that will start from 24 April 2022 (as listed in the GMCA committee meeting documents below), which have adopted the R numbering, as used on its existing services in Rochdale and similar to Transdev numbering of services in Keighley.

The major change will be First's 408 between Shaw and Rochdale merging with Rosso's 435 service between Rochdale and Buckstones to become circular routes R9/R10 running from Rochdale via Turf Hill, High Crompton, Shaw, Buckstones, Newhey and Milnrow then back to Rochdale in both directions. Decent chance that any excess vehicles from Trax (467/468) could be used on these services.

The others changes in Rochdale are:

• Existing 456/458 routes merged into one service (presumably 458) and run half-hourly between Rochdale and Littleborough via Wardle and Hollingworth Lake
• Evening and Sunday journeys introduced on the 457 between Rochdale and Stansfield
• Existing services R3/R13 between Rochdale, Shawclough, Whitworth and Wallbank will be merged into one route (R3) operating along the existing R13 route
• Existing services R4/R5 between Rochdale, Milnrow, Newhey and Peppermint Bridge will be merged into one route (R4) with parts of route covered by new services R5 and R6
• New service R5 to run between Rochdale and Littleborough via Milnrow and Smithy Bridge
• New service R6 to run between Rochdale and Milnrow via Kingsway Business Park
• Existing service R7 re-routed to serve Kingsway Business Park and extended from Castleton to Middleton via Stake Hill and Boarshaw
• Existing service R9 between Rochdale and Foxholes withdrawn
• Existing service 125 re-routed to run between Middleton and Heywood (could go to someone like Little Gem or Stotts though)

There are also several changes to services in Bolton in April, but mainly to evening/Sunday journeys and the likelihood is that these services will go to either Diamond or Vision Bus (or possibly Arriva) but Transdev may gain some work here, although possibly as Blackburn Bus on the 1 between Bolton and Egerton (and probably on to Darwen if they gained the tender).

Also some changes to services in Oldham with some TBC operators listed for service 402 (extended to Buckstones, partly replacing service 408), service 403 (re-routed via Higginshaw instead of Royal Oldham Hospital) and service 411 (replaces 402 between Oldham and Derker). Should imagine that Stotts or Little Gem would be after these, but potentially Transdev or First (probably the outsider despite them having a depot in the town).

democracy.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/documents/s17748/GMTC%20Bus%20Services%2020211119%20Forthcoming%20Changes%20to%20the%20Bus%20Network%20Part%20A.pdf
democracy.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/documents/s18669/20220121%20Forthcoming%20Changes%20to%20the%20Bus%20Network%20Part%20A.pdf

[leedsbusman]

The changes for April are registered and bustimes shows them here bustimes.org/licences/PC0001838
The summary above is largely correct, but the 125 isn't a Rosso route. 402/403 Mon-Sat will be taken over though.

[SF07]

Here are the new registrations. Some are replacements from the Burnley & Pendle licence.

PC0001838/408 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Rochdale via Milnrow, Shaw & Buckstones
Service number: R9 (R10)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/407 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Middleton via Kirkholt
Service number: R7
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/406 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Rochdale via Milnrow & Ladyhouse
Service number: R6
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/405 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Littleborough via Milnrow
Service number: R5
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/404 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Peppermint Bridge via Milnrow
Service number: R4
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/403 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Wallbank via Healey Corner
Service number: R3
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/402 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Bury via Norden & Heywood
Service number: R2
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/401 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Bury to Heywood via Fairfield Hospital
Service number: B4
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/400 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Bury to Nangreaves via Limefield & Chesham
Service number: B2
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/399 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Bury to Peel Brow via Ramsbottom
Service number: B1
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/397 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Oldham to Oldham Circular via Shaw & Rushcroft
Service number: 403
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/396 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Oldham to Oldham Circular via Shaw and Buckstones
Service number: 402
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/395 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Rochdale Circular via Kirkholt
Service number: 6
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

[westyorkshirebus]

I never quite understood why the Rochdale locals were registered under the B&P licence in the first place

The Enviro 200s carry Burnley and Pendle legals, whereas the recently transferred ex Tiger solos carry Rossendale Transport legals with ‘On loan to Burnley and Pendle Travel’ signs