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Post by stephen01 on Jan 4, 2021 16:33:23 GMT 1
It seems like Wrightbus are bringing out a Mercedes/Daimer chassis version of the Eclipse 3 is due out this year.
Link to Tweet by the GM of Ipswich Buses.
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Post by driver6540 on Jan 4, 2021 23:08:33 GMT 1
So basically they're bringing out a single deck version of the Streetdeck then. Lets hope they've sorted out the build quality issues that have blighted the Eclipse 3 since its introduction. Cant see too many operators in this area ordering them though, Isn't the trend now for lighter single deckers such as Streetlites, E200MMC's , Metrocity's etc?
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 4, 2021 23:39:52 GMT 1
So basically they're bringing out a single deck version of the Streetdeck then. Lets hope they've sorted out the build quality issues that have blighted the Eclipse 3 since its introduction. Cant see too many operators in this area ordering them though, Isn't the trend now for lighter single deckers such as Streetlites, E200MMC's , Metrocity's etc? yep. The main trend for single deckers are Solos, Streetlites, Versas, Metrocitys & e200mmcs with Pelican Yutong been the latest. So these are basically Pulsar 3s then. Seriously cant see them in Yorkshire or the North of England full stop only with coach operators for school runs e.g Lyles, Station Coaches, Ross Travel or Stotts. |
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Post by dlspotter on Jan 5, 2021 12:16:47 GMT 1
Just wondering as the original tweet has been removed, is it a bus like this? (This isn't my picture, I have just used it for the purpose of citation and do not intend to use it for any other reason)  |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 5, 2021 12:44:56 GMT 1
Just wondering as the original tweet has been removed, is it a bus like this? (This isn't my picture, I have just used it for the purpose of citation and do not intend to use it for any other reason) Similar. That's the Eclipse 3 which was short lived (Vovlo chassis). Lothian in Scotland got multiple of these. So with it been same body but on Daimler/VDL chassis these will be Pulsar 3s logically. |
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Post by dlspotter on Jan 5, 2021 13:57:52 GMT 1
Ah ok, that's cleared that up. I would hope they do come up North to be quite honest, they look quite modern and could possibly be a better competitive product than the Streetlite but I doubt it
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 5, 2021 14:17:55 GMT 1
Ah ok, that's cleared that up. I would hope they do come up North to be quite honest, they look quite modern and could possibly be a better competitive product than the Streetlite but I doubt it exactly. If they do come to North of England it will only be with Coach companies for schools. I can also see them been used by Metro to replace the BMC Condors for Mybus fleets. |
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Post by Burnside on Jan 5, 2021 15:31:48 GMT 1
Why do you think that?
First have a large fleet of B7RLE's that will need replacing one day. If they are happy enough with the large numbers of Streetdecks they have been buying, why wouldn't they take large numbers of single deck versions of the same thing?
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 5, 2021 15:45:24 GMT 1
Why do you think that? First have a large fleet of B7RLE's that will need replacing one day. If they are happy enough with the large numbers of Streetdecks they have been buying, why wouldn't they take large numbers of single deck versions of the same thing? because at the moment the operators are going for the lightweight options. I get what you mean though about First having to upgrade the B7RLE Eclipses and Arriva Yorkshire have their Commanders due to be replaced too. Now if Wrightbus resume the manufacturing of the B8 Eclipse 3 then i can see First going down that road. Arriva on the other hand who knows what they'll go for next. |
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 6, 2021 0:29:34 GMT 1
The B8RLE Eclipse 3 has been around since 2015 and First have ordered zero, none, zilch. Even if it did return to production, what makes you think they'd order it now?
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 6, 2021 14:38:33 GMT 1
The B8RLE Eclipse 3 has been around since 2015 and First have ordered zero, none, zilch. Even if it did return to production, what makes you think they'd order it now? Well i'm only thinking that if they want to replace the 2004-2007 eclipses with like for like. For all we know they could go for Versas or Metrocitys if not larger Yutongs. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 6, 2021 14:39:40 GMT 1
The second brand new vehicle they are working on is the Aberdeen bus
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Post by Burnside on Jan 6, 2021 21:33:16 GMT 1
The B8RLE Eclipse 3 has been around since 2015 and First have ordered zero, none, zilch. Even if it did return to production, what makes you think they'd order it now? Well i'm only thinking that if they want to replace the 2004-2007 eclipses with like for like. For all we know they could go for Versas or Metrocitys if not larger Yutongs. The 2 Optare products have been on sale for years and First have very few, if any. What First, Arriva etc will buy will depend on what their needs are. If they prefer a 'heavy duty' option, which to some are seen as more robust, then if they are satisfied with their Streetdecks, they could well take this new bus. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 6, 2021 23:14:03 GMT 1
Ah ok, that's cleared that up. I would hope they do come up North to be quite honest, they look quite modern and could possibly be a better competitive product than the Streetlite but I doubt it exactly. If they do come to North of England it will only be with Coach companies for schools. I can also see them been used by Metro to replace the BMC Condors for Mybus fleets. I certainly can’t see that happening, considering the BMCs aren’t being replaced by Metro. I’m not sure ‘coach companies’ regularly buy brand new single deckers for schools either? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 23:48:02 GMT 1
Why would anyone use brand new buses for schools is the question? As they would get trashed in 5 minutes by kids.
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 6, 2021 23:53:48 GMT 1
Why would anyone use brand new buses for schools is the question? As they would get trashed in 5 minutes by kids. well the new single decker Wrightbus are doing have seat belts fitted so would be ideal for school work & rail replacement duties if you think about it. |
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Jan 7, 2021 10:14:17 GMT 1
Why would anyone use brand new buses for schools is the question? As they would get trashed in 5 minutes by kids. well the new single decker Wrightbus are doing have seat belts fitted so would be ideal for school work & rail replacement duties if you think about it. Whilst it does depend on the school there are a number of operators who find that deploying new vehicles on school contracts actually improves behaviour as the students appreciate nicer vehicles. This probably applies more to private contracts, as the operator will have a better relationship with schools & parents to deal with misbehaviour, than the more traditional council contracts where often all organisations refuse to assist the operator in dealing with issues. There is a reasonable, though not massive, market for these vehicles which currently is largely solely served in the single-deck market by Volvo/MCV currently. |
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Post by jdodger08 on Feb 3, 2021 2:40:02 GMT 1
If you go look at Wright's website they only advertise 2 busses, one hydrogen powered and the other electric, in what looks like streetdeck bodywork.
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Post by steve440 on Feb 17, 2021 17:12:13 GMT 1
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Post by dlspotter on Feb 17, 2021 17:26:20 GMT 1
Personally I find them quite the aesthetically pleasing bus. I presume they seat around the same amount of pax as an Eclipse so probably more competitive with ADL buses than the Streetlite
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Post by WYBS on Feb 17, 2021 23:18:43 GMT 1
Hmmm. I really didn't think buses could get any uglier, but here my thought appears to be questioned.
The Gemini 2/ Eclipse 2 style front end looked very classy in my opinion, then when Wrights released the original Gemini 3/ Streetdeck front end, I thought it was one of the best looking, most stylish and modern vehicles to ever hit the market.
The transition into the front end we commonly know now made me question whether opticians in this country massively fail to prescribe glasses to hundreds of people; who just happen, by chance, to work in the bus industry.
My thought has been, for example, that Transdev only bought the current 36s in that style as they were noticeably different from the previous fleet, but with the original front end they would've clooked much nicer.
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Post by jdodger08 on Mar 6, 2021 12:43:42 GMT 1
Looks to me very Alx-300-ish |
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Post by Burnside on Mar 7, 2021 19:51:31 GMT 1
The more i see of this (and the Volvo's with Lothian that also have the 'stealth' front), the more i'm reminded of the Ailsa that Black Prince operated that had been converted to single deck, or the WMPTE Fleetline also cut down to single deck in that they look like their double deck counterpart, but have a rather ungainly and awkward appearance.
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 22, 2021 22:51:11 GMT 1
So it looks like the name of the new single decke is GB Kite.
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