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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 0:09:02 GMT 1
Posted earlier on another site a statement from DB about possible breakup and sale of Arriva, Attachments:
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Post by the110 on Mar 28, 2019 16:43:45 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on Mar 28, 2019 18:38:33 GMT 1
Posted earlier on another site a statement from DB about possible breakup and sale of Arriva, Interesting, though there doesn't seem to be any mention of breaking Arriva up. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 28, 2019 19:32:04 GMT 1
I also can’t see any mention of them breaking up Arriva
People need to remember Arriva is a massive multi national transport operator, in many countries with turnover of billions a year. It isn’t a just UK bus operator, and any buyers are unlikely to be one of the other UK bus operators. It’s also not what First are doing in selling individual operators..
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Post by the110 on Apr 14, 2019 20:42:13 GMT 1
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Post by adam on Apr 14, 2019 21:51:42 GMT 1
Surely they wouldn’t be allowed to takeover the rail parts of Arriva after they were banned from bidding for 3 rail franchises
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 14, 2019 22:24:32 GMT 1
And just how many bus operations would the Competition and Markets Authority require them to dispose of
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 14, 2019 22:44:31 GMT 1
Surely they wouldn’t be allowed to takeover the rail parts of Arriva after they were banned from bidding for 3 rail franchises They haven't been "banned" They had bids thrown out as uncompliant. |
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Post by adam on Apr 14, 2019 23:41:55 GMT 1
Okay term it how you want but they’ve burnt their bridges in the rail world for the time being
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Post by gooderson1 on Apr 15, 2019 13:10:44 GMT 1
baldman87. What is your reasoning behind your statement.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 15, 2019 16:49:44 GMT 1
That doesn't look to be a serious news source. Incorrect comment about disqualification from bidding, and a couple of vague rumours. Perhaps Stagecoach may be interested in buying Arriva bus operations, but that's not what DB are offering. |
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Post by passenger859 on Apr 15, 2019 17:14:15 GMT 1
I don’t think it would work in Greater Manchester or Liverpool, where Stagecoach and Arriva already have a huge market share. In fact, wasn’t Stagecoach in Merseyside born out of Arriva having to sell a depot in the past?
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Post by baldman87 on Apr 25, 2019 17:08:09 GMT 1
According to a driver from stagecoach they have offered a billion quid for the bus side of arriva
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 25, 2019 17:27:14 GMT 1
lol
"a billion quid"
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Post by deerfold on Apr 25, 2019 17:45:42 GMT 1
According to a driver from stagecoach they have offered a billion quid for the bus side of arriva Is that the UK bus side? The global bus side? Sounds unlikely. As that's not what DB are doing. They're offering the whole (or shares in the whole) for sale. It's possible that whoever buys it may then be interested in selling parts of it. This has been mentioned before - if anything else is proposed it needs a bit more behind it than a rumour from a driver. Do Stagecoach let their drivers know about these things before officially notifying the market? If they do, that's the way to a massive fine for them. |
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Post by gooderson1 on Apr 25, 2019 17:47:59 GMT 1
Baldman87. Please. Did he tell you this on the 1st April.
Reasons not to pay a £1billion:-
1) Is Arriva bus worth that much?.
2) Certain referral to the Competition and Markets Authority and sale blocked on lack of competition grounds.
3) Several elected mayors including Mr Burham in Greater Manchester can't wait to start franchising bus routes and therefore tell the bus companies how to run buses and routes rather than leave it to the professionals and that is something several large operators are not to happy with.
4) Would Stagecoach seriously tell on driver of one of their buses what they intend to spend their money on.
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Post by the110 on Apr 25, 2019 20:35:45 GMT 1
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Post by jc on Jun 17, 2019 18:51:37 GMT 1
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Post by Penfold on Jun 17, 2019 22:29:34 GMT 1
...and adding another spanner to the works is that Arriva Yorkshire/North East MD Nigel Featham has announced (via Twitter) this afternoon he is leaving the company in August
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Post by jc on Jun 18, 2019 18:08:21 GMT 1
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Post by SCH117X on Jun 18, 2019 18:18:54 GMT 1
Other bidders include Keolis which is interesting, apparently they operate Nottingham's NET Only in the sense they form one eighth in value of the operating consortium, the same as Wellglade. |
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Post by sharksmith on Jun 19, 2019 14:36:10 GMT 1
...and adding another spanner to the works is that Arriva Yorkshire/North East MD Nigel Featham has announced (via Twitter) this afternoon he is leaving the company in August Penfold To become MD of Go North West. |
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Post by Penfold on Jun 19, 2019 15:26:53 GMT 1
...and adding another spanner to the works is that Arriva Yorkshire/North East MD Nigel Featham has announced (via Twitter) this afternoon he is leaving the company in August Penfold To become MD of Go North West. Yep, just come through on my Twitter feed. Penfold |
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Post by solo on Jun 19, 2019 17:58:43 GMT 1
Strange move from a position of Regional MD covering Yorkshire and the North East to a one depot, one town operation with about 163 buses.
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Post by solo on Jun 19, 2019 18:37:40 GMT 1
Postscript to above. May not be as strange as it looks. If Arriva Yorkshire is to be sold then Go Ahead would probably be in strong position to purchase
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