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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 13:16:05 GMT 1
I`d be surprised if first are dropping the 324 as it carry`s good loads at Peak times (sometimes Double deckers full),hopefully if they do leave Tiger will put on bigger buses or a better frequency,would hate to be on a there Commanders at peak time otherwise! Also would this be the first route they have given up against Kline/Tiger after many years of competing against?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 6, 2015 13:41:33 GMT 1
The actual registration for the 686 does say "service number: 686 (687, 688)" so it does look like a full complement of service numbers for the Brighouse/Scholes to Bradford service to be paired up with the Fagley route.
Of course this is currently every 10 mins, and Fagley is every 15 mins so someone is either going to get a frequency increase or decrease?
Wyke buses have gone through to Shipley/Saltaire using various 622-627 numbers since 1986.
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Sept 6, 2015 14:11:35 GMT 1
I bet First are planning a re-launch of the 324 with perhaps a brand being used as they've probably lost a bit of custom to the new look Tiger Blue, they were successful with Red Arrow so maybe something similar will be planned using a new number, could be an easy to remember number like 333, or maybe just using a name like Blue Arrow? I can only see them re-vamping and not withdrawing as it's such a key route.
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Post by SF07 on Sept 7, 2015 19:19:47 GMT 1
I bet First are planning a re-launch of the 324 with perhaps a brand being used as they've probably lost a bit of custom to the new look Tiger Blue, they were successful with Red Arrow so maybe something similar will be planned using a new number, could be an easy to remember number like 333, or maybe just using a name like Blue Arrow? I can only see them re-vamping and not withdrawing as it's such a key route. Couldn't use 333, as that's the alternative number used for the FreeTownBus in Huddersfield. Meanwhile, few registration changes from First today, including the 323/324, which would probably mean the cancellation is for the 321. PB0000815/39 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted: Operating between Middleton Arms and Old Farnley given service number 86/86A effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. PB0000815/380 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted: Operating between HUDDERSFIELD and MELTHAM given service number 323/324 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. PB0000815/784 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Leeds Rail Station and Leeds Rail Station given service number Leeds City Bus effective from 09-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 20:23:35 GMT 1
I bet First are planning a re-launch of the 324 with perhaps a brand being used as they've probably lost a bit of custom to the new look Tiger Blue, they were successful with Red Arrow so maybe something similar will be planned using a new number, could be an easy to remember number like 333, or maybe just using a name like Blue Arrow? I can only see them re-vamping and not withdrawing as it's such a key route. Couldn't use 333, as that's the alternative number used for the FreeTownBus in Huddersfield. Meanwhile, few registration changes from First today, including the 323/324, which would probably mean the cancellation is for the 321. PB0000815/39 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted: Operating between Middleton Arms and Old Farnley given service number 86/86A effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. PB0000815/380 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted: Operating between HUDDERSFIELD and MELTHAM given service number 323/324 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. PB0000815/784 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Leeds Rail Station and Leeds Rail Station given service number Leeds City Bus effective from 09-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable. Interestingly they are amending the route for Meltham`s,could it be 1 324 per hour goes via Martins Nest (like they did a few year back with 325,only this time serving Martins Nest in both directions)
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 7, 2015 22:48:54 GMT 1
We should make a note of every time vosa says there will be a route change, as we do this once or twice every month, often effecting major long established routes, and I'm sure the route changes never come to pass.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Sept 8, 2015 16:33:28 GMT 1
The actual registration for the 686 does say "service number: 686 (687, 688)" so it does look like a full complement of service numbers for the Brighouse/Scholes to Bradford service to be paired up with the Fagley route. Of course this is currently every 10 mins, and Fagley is every 15 mins so someone is either going to get a frequency increase or decrease? Wyke buses have gone through to Shipley/Saltaire using various 622-627 numbers since 1986. Actually Fagley buses are now every 10 mins --613 and 614 each every 20 minutes -- they were increased when the 612 was dropped from the Great Horton Road family a while ago!
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Post by SF07 on Sept 8, 2015 18:26:00 GMT 1
More TLC registrations today:
PB0001748/55 - KEIGHLEY & DISTRICT TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, STARBECK, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY Variation Accepted: Operating between Keighley Bus Station and Bradford I/C given service number 662 effective from 01-Nov-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0004246/70 - T L C TRAVEL LTD, 7 LINTON STREET, BRADFORD, BD4 7EZ Registration Accepted Starting Point: HUDDERSFIELD BUS STATION Finish Point: SCAPEGOAT HILL, HUDDERSFIELD Via: Service Number: 304 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: MONDAY TO SATURDAY
PB0004246/72 - T L C TRAVEL LTD, 7 LINTON STREET, BRADFORD, BD4 7EZ Registration Accepted Starting Point: STOCKSMOOR RAIL STATION, HUDDERSFIELD Finish Point: HUDDERSFIELD BUS STATION Via: Service Number: 341 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: MONDAY TO SUNDAY
PB0004246/73 - T L C TRAVEL LTD, 7 LINTON STREET, BRADFORD, BD4 7EZ Registration Accepted Starting Point: HUDDERSFIELD BUS STATION Finish Point: ALMONDBURY NORTHGATE Via: Service Number: 341A Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: MONDAY TO SATURDAY
PB0004246/75 - T L C TRAVEL LTD, 7 LINTON STREET, BRADFORD, BD4 7EZ Registration Accepted Starting Point: SOUTH CROSLAND, HUDDERSFIELD Finish Point: HUDDERSFIELD BUS STATION Via: Service Number: 354 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: MONDAY TO FRIDAY
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Post by 1071 on Sept 8, 2015 19:07:51 GMT 1
when you go on vosa how do you get on to see the changes
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Post by SCH117X on Sept 8, 2015 19:51:24 GMT 1
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Post by 1071 on Sept 8, 2015 20:44:26 GMT 1
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Sept 9, 2015 8:01:29 GMT 1
Yorkshire based operators are in the North-East traffic area. Lancashire & Greater Manchester based operators are in the North-West.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Sept 10, 2015 13:46:41 GMT 1
The actual registration for the 686 does say "service number: 686 (687, 688)" so it does look like a full complement of service numbers for the Brighouse/Scholes to Bradford service to be paired up with the Fagley route. Of course this is currently every 10 mins, and Fagley is every 15 mins so someone is either going to get a frequency increase or decrease? Wyke buses have gone through to Shipley/Saltaire using various 622-627 numbers since 1986. Actually Fagley buses are now every 10 mins --613 and 614 each every 20 minutes -- they were increased when the 612 was dropped from the Great Horton Road family a while ago! What is puzzling is presuming the 613/614 will run Buttershaw - Shipley will these be every 10 minutes combined or every 15 minutes combined as existing 612 frequency.
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Post by SF07 on Sept 10, 2015 20:37:49 GMT 1
More from VOSA today, including another change in the Cross Green area and some gains for Yorkshire Tiger from First:
PB0004410/27 - E STOTT & SONS LTD, COLNE VALE GARAGE, SAVILE STREET, MILNSBRIDGE, HUDDERSFIELD, HD3 4PG Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Meltham Morrisons and Huddersfield Royal Infirmary given service number 388 effective from 26-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB1078487/77 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between LEEDS and LEEDS BRADFORD AIRPORT given service number 757 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB1078487/89 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between HALIFAX and ELLAND given service number 501 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB1078487/91 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between HUDDERSFIELD and BRIGHOUSE given service number 547 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB1078487/94 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between Leeds, Infirmary Street Bus Station and East End Park, East Park Road/Garton Road given service number 59 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB1078487/103 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Leeds Finish Point: Cross Green Via: Crown Point Service Number: X63 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Monday to Friday only
PB1078487/104 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Halifax Finish Point: Siddal Via: Service Number: 542 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily, limited journeys
PB1078487/105 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Huddersfield Finish Point: Ashenhurst Via: Service Number: 358 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily
PB1078487/106 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Huddersfield Finish Point: Longwood Via: Paddock Service Number: 356 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 10, 2015 22:00:57 GMT 1
Certain services seem to change in every single window.
Cross Green / East End Park routes Rosso service to Bacup Stagecoach Barnsley Hemsworth services
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Post by andy1 on Sept 10, 2015 22:41:16 GMT 1
More from VOSA today, including another change in the Cross Green area and some gains for Yorkshire Tiger from First: PB0004410/27 - E STOTT & SONS LTD, COLNE VALE GARAGE, SAVILE STREET, MILNSBRIDGE, HUDDERSFIELD, HD3 4PG Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Meltham Morrisons and Huddersfield Royal Infirmary given service number 388 effective from 26-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. PB1078487/77 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between LEEDS and LEEDS BRADFORD AIRPORT given service number 757 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. PB1078487/89 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between HALIFAX and ELLAND given service number 501 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable. PB1078487/91 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between HUDDERSFIELD and BRIGHOUSE given service number 547 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable. PB1078487/94 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between Leeds, Infirmary Street Bus Station and East End Park, East Park Road/Garton Road given service number 59 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable. PB1078487/103 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Leeds Finish Point: Cross Green Via: Crown Point Service Number: X63 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Monday to Friday only PB1078487/104 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Halifax Finish Point: Siddal Via: Service Number: 542 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily, limited journeys PB1078487/105 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Huddersfield Finish Point: Ashenhurst Via: Service Number: 358 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily PB1078487/106 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Huddersfield Finish Point: Longwood Via: Paddock Service Number: 356 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily I actually don't think these are gains unless its the Sun and eve service on 356/8 I think its head to head competition as 542 Siddal certainly is ! the timetable variations to 501/547 are interesting along with the new X63 Registration in LEEDS. Lets not forget YT have spare resources having lost work to TLC ! cant help but feel their up the ante against First every service change, and certainly seem up for the inevitable bus war that's going to result !
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Post by hstjohnny on Sept 10, 2015 22:49:55 GMT 1
356/358 Gain is the Evening/Sunday tender, Mon-Sat Daytime is run commercially by First.
I wonder if they'll keep the flat fare system on 358, including the one for the Uni Students in Ashenhurst
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 23:12:47 GMT 1
More from VOSA today, including another change in the Cross Green area and some gains for Yorkshire Tiger from First: PB0004410/27 - E STOTT & SONS LTD, COLNE VALE GARAGE, SAVILE STREET, MILNSBRIDGE, HUDDERSFIELD, HD3 4PG Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Meltham Morrisons and Huddersfield Royal Infirmary given service number 388 effective from 26-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. PB1078487/77 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between LEEDS and LEEDS BRADFORD AIRPORT given service number 757 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. PB1078487/89 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between HALIFAX and ELLAND given service number 501 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable. PB1078487/91 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between HUDDERSFIELD and BRIGHOUSE given service number 547 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable. PB1078487/94 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Variation Accepted: Operating between Leeds, Infirmary Street Bus Station and East End Park, East Park Road/Garton Road given service number 59 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable. PB1078487/103 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Leeds Finish Point: Cross Green Via: Crown Point Service Number: X63 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Monday to Friday only PB1078487/104 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Halifax Finish Point: Siddal Via: Service Number: 542 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily, limited journeys PB1078487/105 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Huddersfield Finish Point: Ashenhurst Via: Service Number: 358 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily PB1078487/106 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD Registration Accepted Starting Point: Huddersfield Finish Point: Longwood Via: Paddock Service Number: 356 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 25-OCT-2015 Other Details: Daily I actually don't think these are gains unless its the Sun and eve service on 356/8 I think its head to head competition as 542 Siddal certainly is! the timetable variations to 501/547 are interesting along with the new X63 Registration in LEEDS. Lets not forget YT have spare resources having lost work to TLC ! cant help but feel their up the ante against First every service change, and certainly seem up for the inevitable bus war that's going to result ! The Siddal registration says limited journeys,so i would`nt be surprised if its Evening work,or possibly just early mornings,356 I Can see them gaining the full service,apart from a few peak journeys i wouldn`t say it`s a well used service from what i`ve seen,358 i`m guessing again Early/Evenings & maybe sundays.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 11, 2015 7:11:42 GMT 1
Yes they will all be either early mornings, evenings or Sundays. First do very little tendered daytime work these days, except for 'de-minimis' stuff where they have a tender for part of an otherwise commercial route.
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Post by pontecarlo on Sept 15, 2015 16:35:49 GMT 1
I wonder what the changes are to the 425/7 and 145-50 as they rarely change.
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Post by SF07 on Sept 17, 2015 19:19:16 GMT 1
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Sept 17, 2015 21:37:13 GMT 1
Yorkshire Tiger 757 will have a reduced overnight service due to reduced demand during the winter season.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Sept 17, 2015 22:10:05 GMT 1
Yorkshire Tiger 757 will have a reduced overnight service due to reduced demand during the winter season. How can you 'reduce' a 1 bus service?
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Sept 17, 2015 23:29:38 GMT 1
Yorkshire Tiger 757 will have a reduced overnight service due to reduced demand during the winter season. How can you 'reduce' a 1 bus service? The new overnight service will not operate during the winter airline timetable. However according to Yorkshire Tiger 's twitter there could be a 00:35 from LBA & 04:35 to LBA. Yorkshire Tiger 757 will have a reduced overnight service due to reduced demand during the winter season. How can you 'reduce' a 1 bus service?
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Post by SF07 on Sept 24, 2015 18:26:26 GMT 1
PB1079814/18 - UTOPIA COACHES LIMITED, UNIT 4, THE MALTINGS, FENTON LANE, SHERBURN IN ELMET, LEEDS, LS25 6EZ Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between PONTEFRACT, BUS STATION and YORK, PICCADILLY given service number 42-2/93S effective from 05-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB1079814/19 - UTOPIA COACHES LIMITED, UNIT 4, THE MALTINGS, FENTON LANE, SHERBURN IN ELMET, LEEDS, LS25 6EZ Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between SHERBURN IN ELMET, BISHOPDYKE ROAD and PONTEFRACT, BUS STATION given service number 42-2/42-3 effective from 05-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB1079814/20 - UTOPIA COACHES LIMITED, UNIT 4, THE MALTINGS, FENTON LANE, SHERBURN IN ELMET, LEEDS, LS25 6EZ Registration Accepted by SN Starting Point: Pontefract, Bus Station Finish Point: York, Piccadilly Via: Service Number: 42X Service Type: Normal Stopping/Limited Stop Effective Date: 05-OCT-2015 Other Details:
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