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Post by jackh on Mar 22, 2008 20:24:09 GMT 1
Alas, the destinations have now been programmed so the 2 shows "Red Line" and the 12 "Blue Line"! It does look odd thought the new combinations as you have got familiar to the old colour codes! The 2 destination also shows via Dewsbury Road so the screen looks rather packed with info!
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Post by nick on Mar 22, 2008 20:34:42 GMT 1
I dont get what they are trying to do incomparting four different coloured lines into 2 different coloured lines.
Serivice 12 should become the service 2 and go Middelton-Leeds-Rouhnday Park-Harehills-City Centre-White Rose while 3/3A White Rose-Leeds-Gledhow/ Breckenwood-Harehills-City Centre-Middleton
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Post by jackh on Mar 22, 2008 22:00:58 GMT 1
Serivice 12 should become the service 2 and go Middelton-Leeds-Rouhnday Park-Harehills-City Centre-White Rose while 3/3A White Rose-Leeds-Gledhow/ Breckenwood-Harehills-City Centre-Middleton That would be pointless really! To be honest I think that would confuse people as they would get on the bus in the City Centre intending to go up along Harrogate Road perhaps and found they were going through Harehills instead. |
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Post by Craig on Mar 22, 2008 23:52:05 GMT 1
Do you mean the 2 now says "Middleton via Dewsbury Road"? Does that mean the recently introduced via Town Street or via Ring Road variants (which attempt to explain if the bus continues as a 13 or 13A) have disappeared?
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Post by jimbob90 on Mar 30, 2008 18:50:17 GMT 1
The text size on the destination blinds for Red Line 2 and Blue Line 12 seems much smaller than the text for Red Line 3/3A and Blue Line 13/13A.
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Post by nick on Mar 30, 2008 20:09:37 GMT 1
Saw a 2 yesterday bound for the Middleton Circular and it had the Red Line destination blind on it
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Mar 31, 2008 15:58:51 GMT 1
Saw a 2 yesterday bound for the Middleton Circular and it had the Red Line destination blind on it ;D I wonder if anybody has got on the wrong bus yet, or let a bus by because they think it is not their bus? It wouldn't supprise me if this has happened as the colour changes have hardly been advertised, only within the first paper if i'm not mistaken. |
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Post by Craig on Mar 31, 2008 18:03:36 GMT 1
True, but that just brings us back to the debate about whether or not people actually take any notice of the line colour. I have not once heard someone talk about getting the Yellow Line home, rather than saying 'the number 2 bus' etc.
I wonder if the destination reprogramming has fixed the problem of the illiterate ALX400s who like to show "Blue Lane 13" - never heard of that road before?
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Post by revol on Apr 2, 2008 22:54:29 GMT 1
I reckon there should be a new Yellow and Green Line. I think maybe the 5 and 99 are elegible. Both use Geminis like many of the overground services (2, 3, 12, 13, 16, 40, 42, 49, 50, 51 and now the 37), seem frequent, the 5 now goes by Armley Gyratory so would fit in with the 4s, 16s and 42s which are also Westbound services, and the 99 serves Wetherby which is in North East Leeds, the only district with a major town that doesn't have an overground route running to it (East Leeds - 18, North West - 33 and 50, South - 51 and West - 4 and 16).
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Post by jackh on Apr 3, 2008 10:44:34 GMT 1
Hmmm, making the Wetherbys an overground route. Well it isn't a high frequency service so wouldn't fit in with the pattern of the network would it! The 5 as well, that isn't a high frequent service as well so what would be the point in that.
So if those routes became overground routes, why don't we make the 28, 73 etc etc overgound routes. Just sounds daft to be honest!
However, First could niggle with Scott Halls to simplify the 35, 45 and 47 into the 35 and 35A lets say and use a vacant colour. The 35 would stay as the same route to Alwoodley and have an enhanced 20 minute frequency. The 35A could replace the existing 47 route to Wigton Moor and run every 20 minutes and then the co-ordinated 10 minute frequency from Moortown Corner. The 45 would be replaced along Shadwell Lane by an enhanced 46 service on the northern section which would run every 15 minutes.
I don't know how pratical such a change would be in reality, however it is just a thought.
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Post by nick on Apr 3, 2008 15:29:59 GMT 1
Hmm the Wetherby services becoming a Overground is a bit daft as they serve the remote villages only once a hour.
The 28,95,92 could all become a overground colour (Yellow Line) which would make perfect sense as they could overlay each other somehow
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Post by revol on Apr 3, 2008 15:50:01 GMT 1
Well obviously the 5 and 99 would be upgraded to every ten minutes...
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Post by nick on Apr 3, 2008 15:53:06 GMT 1
^^ The 5 has the market there to be upgraded to every 10 minutes and first have the capactiy but the 99 dosnt have the market and first dont have the capacity.!
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Post by revol on Apr 3, 2008 16:06:05 GMT 1
Still, it would be convenient for those living in Wetherby and are travelling/commuting into Leeds, like the 18 is for Garfoth, the 50 is for Horsforth, the 51 is for Morley, the 4 and 16s are for Pudsey and the 33 is for people living in pretty much every sattelite town in North West Leeds. The 99 does appear to be a pretty busy route.
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Post by nick on Apr 3, 2008 16:30:20 GMT 1
Yes but you have to remember that alongside the X98 the wetherby foke get a every half our service. First/Metro wouldnt implant this as there is competion taken from the 770 service and metro wouldnt want two very important routes going against each other. And anyway they are more or less every 15 minutes(770,98,X98)
The most the X98 and 99 services could get upragded to is every 20 minutes as First(Cherry Row) dont have the capcity to do every 10 mins as a said in a prevous reply!
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Post by Craig on Apr 3, 2008 18:16:30 GMT 1
Some strange ideas being thrown about here?
Anyway I had a similar idea for Scott Halls, to have a 20-min service to Alwoodley and the other 20-min service to Shadwell. The 71 can then serve Wigton Moor at all times (not every journey, probably every 20 mins daytime) and thus each terminus retains its current guideway service and at better frequencies too. I would number the new service 70 (Shadwell) and 70A (Alwoodley), to co-exist with the 71.
As far as the Wetherbys go, the 99 works as an hourly service as it is (but perhaps some extra peak journeys would be good), its the X98 which needs to be upgraded to half-hourly I think. Certainly not an Overground route though?!
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Post by jackh on Apr 3, 2008 18:46:49 GMT 1
Look, the 99 as a ten minute frequency would be daft full STOP! As previously mentioned there isn't simply the demand to sustain such a service as the route outisde Leeds is sparsely populated, unlike Morley and Horsforth which are just suburbs of Leeds. Furthermore, majority of the residents are wealthier who would be much harder to switch from the car to the bus along the A58. >END OF SUBJECT<.
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Post by Craig on Apr 5, 2008 17:01:32 GMT 1
Getting back to the original topic of the post (and away from wild ideas of an Overground East Keswick Line), I finally saw one of the new Geminis carrying the contravision advert for the Red and Blue Lines which originally was presented on an ALX400 drawing in the First to Know leaflet. It was only on the driver's side of the bus however.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to get the ID of the bus in question, as I didn't wish to crash into said vehicle and thus risk upsetting everyone here on the forum by ensuring they wouldn't get to see/photograph it.
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Post by jackh on Apr 5, 2008 22:17:57 GMT 1
I will try and get a pic of it tomorrow, should be out I hope. Just wait around Corn Exchange for an hour.
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Post by Craig on Apr 5, 2008 22:22:22 GMT 1
Don't forget your black make up along with an over-sized hoodie top endowed with Avril Lavigne badges then, otherwise you'll stick out like a sore thumb.
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Post by jackh on Apr 6, 2008 14:33:11 GMT 1
I managed to get a photo of 37121 (YK07AYW) which was bus I presume you were on about that has had the contravision applied. www.firstwestyorkshire.fpic.co.uk/p49798478.htmlHowever, I did forget to put my black make up and over sized huddie on though! |
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Post by nick on Apr 6, 2008 16:53:38 GMT 1
Looks like a nice design to the bus.
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Post by Craig on Apr 6, 2008 18:59:08 GMT 1
Its certainly eye-catching. I wonder why, for the 'polaroid photographs' on the side, they didn't feature such delights as, say, the Middleton branch of Jackson's or a take-away on Roundhay Road?
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Post by nick on Apr 6, 2008 19:04:56 GMT 1
Its certainly eye-catching. I wonder why, for the 'polaroid photographs' on the side, they didn't feature such delights as, say, the Middleton branch of Jackson's or a take-away on Roundhay Road? They dont appear on the side of the bus because they are too exclusive to be seen on the side of the bus  |
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Post by jackh on Apr 6, 2008 19:05:06 GMT 1
Probably because the Tourist Board/LCC and other Quangos have not got photos to give to bus companies of these delights en route!
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