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Post by uww2x on Nov 14, 2010 23:22:47 GMT 1
thebusgalleryarchive.fotopic.net/p66146074.htmlnever quite understood why these were withdrawn quite early. it's a shame they never had Yorkshire Rider livery. Other buses built like Atlanteans around that era seemed to last another 10-15 years. Do any forum members remember these or ever ride on one ?
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Post by sharksmith on Nov 14, 2010 23:44:36 GMT 1
These are the buses which got me interested way back in my younger days, can't explain why but 2610 was my favourite. Unfortunately they suffered horrendous corrosion issues which I understand also finished off the preserved 2612.
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Post by simon on Nov 15, 2010 11:46:57 GMT 1
Yes remember them well,bouncy suspension and rapid acceleration absolutely full of character.
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Post by uww2x on Nov 16, 2010 20:29:19 GMT 1
Surely they could of lasted longer than what they were planned.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Nov 18, 2010 9:32:57 GMT 1
Surely they could of lasted longer than what they were planned. The drank fuel and had a build quality that resembled papier-mache so they were never going to be a success once these became apparant. One issue in West Yorkshire was the amount of gritting needed in their area and the corrosion from the salt was causing serious issues with the bodywork. The only operator who managed to get close to full life from their Metropolitans was Reading Transport (who even purchased second-hand vehicles from London & Tyne & Wear to bolster their fleet), Whippett of Fenstanton being another who purchased a number of secondhand vehicles that survived for a number of years. London Transport withdrew their Metropolitans very early like West Yorkshire & the Tyne & Wear ones barely made deregulation before being completely withdrawn (I can't think of anyone else who had more than evaluation batches - if there were they must have withdrawn theirs early as well).
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Post by Matty on Nov 18, 2010 11:17:43 GMT 1
Metrobus's were only designed to last 15 years, but they have carried on a lot longer. Metropolitans were probably designed to last 15 years & did.
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Post by simon on Nov 18, 2010 11:35:22 GMT 1
The Metrobuses that were based at Torre Rd suffered the same problem,the rear end seemed to be a big problem area so much in fact that most were rebuilt before their tenth birthday.These were mainly Mk 2 s so not sure if the mk 1s suffered from the same symptoms.
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Post by hanovers on Nov 18, 2010 11:35:48 GMT 1
I've heard that the Metropolitans in Bradford had smaller than average fuel tanks. So any bus on a late turn board had to be re-fuelled at some point in the day.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Nov 18, 2010 15:03:12 GMT 1
Metrobus's were only designed to last 15 years, but they have carried on a lot longer. Metropolitans were probably designed to last 15 years & did. Most Metropolitan fleets lasted 6-10 years, only Reading got close to 12-15, and compared to equivilant aged vehicles like Atlanteans & VRs that was a dreadful showing. Metrobuses also had a similar structural weakness, both West Midlands & London had to rebuild the rear-end of their Metrobuses to stop them falling apart (Mk.1's were the worst). Incidentally there was a similar problem with the longer MCW Metroriders so there was evidently a problem at MCW when they switched to integral designs.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Nov 18, 2010 17:05:11 GMT 1
Surely they could of lasted longer than what they were planned. The drank fuel and had a build quality that resembled papier-mache so they were never going to be a success once these became apparant. One issue in West Yorkshire was the amount of gritting needed in their area and the corrosion from the salt was causing serious issues with the bodywork. The only operator who managed to get close to full life from their Metropolitans was Reading Transport (who even purchased second-hand vehicles from London & Tyne & Wear to bolster their fleet), Whippett of Fenstanton being another who purchased a number of secondhand vehicles that survived for a number of years. London Transport withdrew their Metropolitans very early like West Yorkshire & the Tyne & Wear ones barely made deregulation before being completely withdrawn (I can't think of anyone else who had more than evaluation batches - if there were they must have withdrawn theirs early as well). Remember one of them still in service in Leicester in August 1988
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Post by busman3 on Nov 21, 2010 13:04:14 GMT 1
The SYPTE didnt last long either , Hull managed to use them well , but they wernt liked fuel was a real problem with them , and they were rather heavey plus of course there was also the political problems - not made in uk - when most of the PTEs had a local purchase / UK purchase policy.
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Post by Matty on Nov 22, 2010 0:13:59 GMT 1
MCW's are made in Birmingham..
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Post by Burnside on Nov 22, 2010 9:40:49 GMT 1
...with Scania running units, which are Swedish.
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