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Post by nickfoster on Apr 10, 2009 16:10:01 GMT 1
Hi,
I was just wondering would there be any jobs for a 16 year old to do at a bus depot or indeed at a Bus Station, I was thinking along the lines of cleaning out buses that sort of thing? Would they employ a 16 Year old or do you have to be older? thanks
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Post by liam on Apr 10, 2009 19:50:34 GMT 1
I was employed at stagecoach wen i was 16 has a cleaner i would not no about first or any other operates in yorkshire.
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Post by BusNut on Apr 10, 2009 21:07:47 GMT 1
Are you sure about that, as under Health & Safety Guidelines to work on site at a bus depot you need to be an adult (18+) this is also the case if you are working through the night, such as what most cleaners do and you will probably also need a PSV licence to shuttle the vehicles around the depot.
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Post by jabbott1987 on Apr 10, 2009 22:02:50 GMT 1
I would say it is 18 and over to work as a cleaner in the Garage and any age to go on the vehicle and get rid of any rubbish people have done in the past I think it were in Clecky while on a Change- over. All they had was a bin bag and Hi-Vis vests.
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Post by busman3 on Apr 20, 2009 20:38:12 GMT 1
I doubt it as under childrens and young persons act (untill age of 18) employers have a raft of extra rules to deal with and to be frank it wouldnt be worth the hassle .
If the employer is working strictly to the letter and spirit of the law then the under 18 especailly males will need to use disabled toilets or not use urinals in normal toilets and can not accept lifts to or from work by other employees unless they are more than two adults plus the under 18 and they must be in the back seat on there own - this is the extreme case - they should also not be in a room with someone over 18 unless the door is open .
They should not be any 1 to 1 's ie managers etc they should always be acumpiened
It also gets complecated when you look at the work hours as they cant work between 10pm and 6am - there are exeptions - this of course is when most bus cleaners will be needed. Try the pte information office answering phone calls.
Regarding H&S it requires another risk assesment just for under 18s most depots dont actually need a PCV to drive round depot it may be the companies insurance requirement.
Some depots ie Olive Grove in south yorkshire do require a number of staff with PCVs as they have to cross a public road.
Basicly the emloyer should use the same standards as schools use
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Post by kendall17 on Apr 20, 2009 20:41:40 GMT 1
Drop them a letter explaining you 're passion for the industry and they may find something for you, it can't do any harm - can it?
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Post by Jack on Apr 21, 2009 19:55:39 GMT 1
I tried that once as a summer job useing the same line Simon a couple of years back to First and they said you had to be over 18 and good luck persueing your career.
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Post by danielnew on Apr 30, 2009 1:26:58 GMT 1
I find it annoying that there are a lack of opportunities out there for young people to get involved in the industry. I am 18 studying for a degree at Leeds Uni in Geography & Transport but I don't drive because the bus services are so good and I can't afford to learn to drive or own a car and I don't wish to! Also I wish to practice what I preach in the future - how can you advise people on public transport alternatives when you own a car yourself? Bus Companies advertise their services to persuade you not to drive and to take the bus instead (better for the environment, cheaper etc.), yet if I drove and trained for a PCV I might be able to get a job in the industry. Management, Surveying, Inspecting and Admin jobs should not require a Car or PCV licence and in fact should dissuade non-bus users from filling those roles - if you ask me it is totally hypocritical to ask a car driver to check or devise bus tickets/timings/schedules/route planning/fares! All graduate schemes require you to have a car licence. If anyone knows of any opportunities in the industry for a committed, hard-working, reliable self who knows a great deal about the industry - I don't mind if it's just cleaning (I need the money over the summer!) I would be very grateful if you could reply to this post. Unofficially I have experience of working for London Transport as a Key Point Loader and I have carried out a full Survey of Buses in Somerset - to identify travel patterns covering every single bus route including those that ran once a week or less. As you can see I am meticulous with my work!
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Post by Craig on Apr 30, 2009 21:16:57 GMT 1
Have you already applied for any summer jobs within the industry? Maybe it's naive of me but I would have thought that opportunities would exist for somebody who is studying in that field to be able to get relatively poorly paid work for the experience?
As for your other comments, I agree with the concept that those working to acheive modal shift to public transport ought not to drive themselves, but in reality it just isn't practical. Managerial staff would be expected to have use of a car to be able to attend meetings etc in different areas, and of course outside of work who these days really doesn't need a car for visiting family and friends, shopping trips and all the rest. But owning a car doesn't make you a bad person, and the bus industry will never significantly get people to sell their cars and get annual bus passes instead. The goal really is to reduce the dependence on cars, and to get car owners to use public transport for those trips where it is feasible to do so, rather than buses solely existing for those with no other choice. Unfortunately for most car owners this isn't viable. Even with seemingly constant fare increases, cars are invariably more expensive but people generally are willing to pay the premium for the convenience, and it will take a hell of a lot of incentive, marketing, funding and co-ordination to change that - but that's not to say it isn't possible!
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Post by Jack on Apr 30, 2009 21:48:36 GMT 1
An opportunity the Government could have grasped to stimulate modal shift lately is insteading of having the idea of giving people a couple of grand to entice them into buying a new car, instead, give up you're car and here is two grand in transport tokens! (Dream on you're thinking!)
Daniel, have you asked Uni tutors about any summer placements possible or if the student union has a job shop that could possibly get your some subject related work for you?
Another idea is to contact any small bus/coach company to see if they would allow you to work for them over the summer for them. Always worth a try.
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Post by Craig on Apr 30, 2009 23:40:00 GMT 1
An opportunity the Government could have grasped to stimulate modal shift lately is insteading of having the idea of giving people a couple of grand to entice them into buying a new car, instead, give up you're car and here is two grand in transport tokens! (Dream on you're thinking!) Hmmm, so you would trade in your car, get about 3 years' bus travel... and then what?!
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Post by Matty on May 3, 2009 21:51:31 GMT 1
I think SMALL COMPANY'S don't mind 16 year old's cleaning buses because all they do is give them a mop and bucket, black bin liner etc. Plus they don't have to pay them much either (NMW).
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