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Post by deerfold on Jun 7, 2023 17:25:37 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2023 17:51:04 GMT 1
As usual, I am standing with the drivers, like the Arriva strike, I will support the drivers with the First Strike as well. About time more people stood up to these big greedy corporations who like to treat the workers like rubbish while those at the top are raking it in. Sounds like the drivers have had enough according to the article, and are willing to stand up for themselves. Good for them, solidarty with the drivers.
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 7, 2023 20:32:39 GMT 1
Solidarity with all at First Leeds š
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Post by joseph on Jun 7, 2023 20:45:31 GMT 1
Morale is really low at First in Leeds as heard one of the Park and Ride staff shout at a customer this morning telling them loudly to hurry up, I was upstairs at the time.
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Post by WYBS on Jun 7, 2023 21:57:05 GMT 1
Morale is really low at First in Leeds as heard one of the Park and Ride staff shout at a customer this morning telling them loudly to hurry up, I was upstairs at the time. Nothing out of the ordinary there.
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Post by mattb7tl on Jun 7, 2023 22:24:23 GMT 1
My memory is pretty garbage, when was the last time they went on strike? I find it impressive that they have lasted much longer than the other large companies, despite difficult times. Full support to the drivers, hopefully a resolution can be made sooner rather than later.
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 7, 2023 22:47:47 GMT 1
My memory is pretty garbage, when was the last time they went on strike? I find it impressive that they have lasted much longer than the other large companies, despite difficult times. Full support to the drivers, hopefully a resolution can be made sooner rather than later.Ā It's been with in the last 10 years since Leeds were on strike as last time Connexions covered X98. Wasn't there talk of Braford & Huddersfield/Halifax balloting to strike at the same time.
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Post by twansport on Jun 8, 2023 7:48:26 GMT 1
Last time was June/July 2016
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 17:52:43 GMT 1
At least First are consistent they have the same contempt for their staff and customers!
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Post by ianigsy on Jun 10, 2023 11:44:03 GMT 1
This could be tricky as somebody who usually catches the X84 from Otley into Leeds- the best alternative I can see is the A3 to the airport and changing there into the A1. Since Connexions took over the 962, it doesnāt even start running until 0900 and I donāt really fancy starting every day with a two mile walk to Menston.
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Post by jonny182 on Jun 11, 2023 22:34:11 GMT 1
Last time was June/July 2016 It wasn't as disruptive then as it was just one day per week for a while back then!
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Post by ianigsy on Jun 12, 2023 8:35:57 GMT 1
As strategies go, if you're wanting to rewrite an agreement because of the cost of living crisis, an indefinite strike seems like a counterproductive way of going about things. Of course there are always things outsiders never hear in disputes like this, but if I were a manager at First right now,I'd be saying "OK, see you in a fortnight".
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Post by deerfold on Jun 12, 2023 9:10:03 GMT 1
As strategies go, if you're wanting to rewrite an agreement because of the cost of living crisis, an indefinite strike seems like a counterproductive way of going about things. Of course there are always things outsiders never hear in disputes like this, but if I were a manager at First right now,I'd be saying "OK, see you in a fortnight". Of course, the link only gives one side, but that suggests that it was First who changed the agreement and the workers simply want to return to what was agreed before.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jun 12, 2023 13:18:46 GMT 1
As strategies go, if you're wanting to rewrite an agreement because of the cost of living crisis, an indefinite strike seems like a counterproductive way of going about things. Of course there are always things outsiders never hear in disputes like this, but if I were a manager at First right now,I'd be saying "OK, see you in a fortnight". Of course, the link only gives one side, but that suggests that it was First who changed the agreement and the workers simply want to return to what was agreed before. Might seem counterproductive but when you have to make such a stance in the first place to make a change or bring back agreements which the excuse of covid took away. There will have been requests to reinstate agreements or better pay in line with the cosylivs and inflation but they'll have got no further. Hence why such action is due to take place. Talking to an arriva driver a few months back and had they not took strike action they would have never have got as good of a deal they got in the end.
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Post by rosscolley64 on Jun 16, 2023 15:20:13 GMT 1
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Post by joseph on Jun 18, 2023 9:20:05 GMT 1
Well, they've really messed up with those strike timetables on the First website, they've listed many as just running Fri to Sun, and have listed full timetables for the S27/8 which they've originally said won't be running! The S in front of the number looks a bit confusing when added to Park and Ride services, e.g. PR1/3 listed as SPR1 and SPR3. Would have been better just dropping the S.
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Post by joseph on Jun 18, 2023 11:21:33 GMT 1
Dalesbus are a bit slow updating the posh folk of Ilkley and Otley about the X84 being axed during the strike, nothing on their website about it and they're normally quick when it comes to that sort of info.
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Post by deerfold on Jun 18, 2023 11:50:48 GMT 1
Dalesbus are a bit slow updating the posh folk of Ilkley and Otley about the X84 being axed during the strike, nothing on their website about it and they're normally quick when it comes to that sort of info. They tweeted about it on Friday. Their most recent tweets show up on the home page of the website. I'd say that was pretty quick. It's not a route that runs into the Dales, or even into North Yorkshire, so I'm not sure where else it would go on their website.
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Post by joseph on Jun 18, 2023 12:00:02 GMT 1
Dalesbus are a bit slow updating the posh folk of Ilkley and Otley about the X84 being axed during the strike, nothing on their website about it and they're normally quick when it comes to that sort of info. They tweeted about it on Friday. Their most recent tweets show up on the home page of the website. I'd say that was pretty quick. It's not a route that runs into the Dales, or even into North Yorkshire, so I'm not sure where else it would go on their website. Firstly it does run into the Dales (Ilkley is in Wharfedale), secondly they list it in their timetable section, thridly for those who have disabled twitter so it doesn't show up (me) then they should have put it in the news feed for those that access that for info. I haven't a clue how you disable twitter so it won't automatically show on web pages, but it's possible as I've paid someone to do it.
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Post by ianigsy on Jun 18, 2023 13:46:14 GMT 1
The X84 never runs during strikes or other special timetables like Boxing Day. The rationale is presumably that it only leaves Bramhope without public transport if the 34 runs to Otley.
As for āposh folkā, at least half of the passengers on the X84 in the morning are sixth formers and students. Some of them have A-levels this coming week.
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Post by deerfold on Jun 18, 2023 13:46:38 GMT 1
They tweeted about it on Friday. Their most recent tweets show up on the home page of the website. I'd say that was pretty quick. It's not a route that runs into the Dales, or even into North Yorkshire, so I'm not sure where else it would go on their website. Firstly it does run into the Dales (Ilkley is in Wharfedale), secondly they list it in their timetable section, thridly for those who have disabled twitter so it doesn't show up (me) then they should have put it in the news feed for those that access that for info. I haven't a clue how you disable twitter so it won't automatically show on web pages, but it's possible as I've paid someone to do it. Firstly: Ilkley is not in the Yorkshire Dales National Park which is what most people refer to as the Yorkshire Dales I live in Airedale, but I wouldn't tell people I live in the Yorkshire Dales. Secondly: Feel free to link to where the X84 is on their website as I can't see it. There are references to it as the Dales Rover is valid on it (along with many other services) Thirdly: If you want to ensure you don't see where people have put news updates, that's hardly their fault. For everyone who hasn't done that, it's on their homepage so couldn't be much more prominent. Perhaps don't make accusations when you've chosen to limit what you can see on their webpage.
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Post by deerfold on Jun 18, 2023 13:57:01 GMT 1
The X84 never runs during strikes or other special timetables like Boxing Day. The rationale is presumably that it only leaves Bramhope without public transport if the 34 runs to Otley. As for āposh folkā, at least half of the passengers on the X84 in the morning are sixth formers and students. Some of them have A-levels this coming week. Although of course bwteen Otley and Ilkley that leaves just 7 buses a day, none early enough for those travelling to school at normal times.
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Post by daveshipley on Jun 18, 2023 14:03:16 GMT 1
Today must rank as the worst day for bus travel in Leeds for many years.
No first Leeds buses at all. None of the strike timetable buses have run, the information provided by first is shocking with hard to find timetables / timetables for other days on routes they said arenāt operating. The twitter responses to desperate people are just standard copy & paste with no understanding of the issues.
Strikes will happen but first have really let themselves down with the response. Never known a company so out of touch.
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 18, 2023 14:16:01 GMT 1
Today must rank as the worst day for bus travel in Leeds for many years. No first Leeds buses at all. None of the strike timetable buses have run, the information provided by first is shocking with hard to find timetables / timetables for other days on routes they said arenāt operating. The twitter responses to desperate people are just standard copy & paste with no understanding of the issues. Strikes will happen but first have really let themselves down with the response. Never known a company so out of touch. they did say on social media that services would only run if they were enough drivers willing to do it. It sounds like it's going to be same case of Arriva when they striked and Leeds only running School Services during the strikes.
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Post by joseph on Jun 18, 2023 15:02:09 GMT 1
Firstly it does run into the Dales (Ilkley is in Wharfedale), secondly they list it in their timetable section, thridly for those who have disabled twitter so it doesn't show up (me) then they should have put it in the news feed for those that access that for info. I haven't a clue how you disable twitter so it won't automatically show on web pages, but it's possible as I've paid someone to do it. Firstly: Ilkley is not in the Yorkshire Dales National Park which is what most people refer to as the Yorkshire Dales I live in Airedale, but I wouldn't tell people I live in the Yorkshire Dales. Secondly: Feel free to link to where the X84 is on their website as I can't see it. There are references to it as the Dales Rover is valid on it (along with many other services) Thirdly: If you want to ensure you don't see where people have put news updates, that's hardly their fault. For everyone who hasn't done that, it's on their homepage so couldn't be much more prominent. Perhaps don't make accusations when you've chosen to limit what you can see on their webpage. X84 timetable listed under all year buses on the Dalesbus site, link attached below www.dalesbus.org/all-year-buses.htmlAnd not trying to go too far off topic but Ilkley is in the Dales as described by the town itself below yorkshire-dales.com/ilkley/
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