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Post by joseph on Mar 23, 2023 20:09:06 GMT 1
Rather than attach this to any specific service change period, I thought I'd start a new thread due to launch dates being spread throughout the Spring/Summer. Service 822 from Pocklington via York and Ripon to Pateley Bridge and Grassington will start on May 7th, no timetable available yet. One of the most infrequent services going, service 825, will launch in June running just once a month each way, so god help those who miss it lol! www.dalesbus.org/825.html |
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Post by stephen01 on Mar 23, 2023 22:39:46 GMT 1
Rather than attach this to any specific service change period, I thought I'd start a new thread due to launch dates being spread throughout the Spring/Summer. Service 822 from Pocklington via York and Ripon to Pateley Bridge and Grassington will start on May 7th, no timetable available yet. One of the most infrequent services going, service 825, will launch in June running just once a month each way, so god help those who miss it lol! www.dalesbus.org/825.htmlso 825 may be to allow for Reliance to cover 874 or if they are back on Moorsbus this year. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Mar 23, 2023 23:30:36 GMT 1
Rather than attach this to any specific service change period, I thought I'd start a new thread due to launch dates being spread throughout the Spring/Summer. Service 822 from Pocklington via York and Ripon to Pateley Bridge and Grassington will start on May 7th, no timetable available yet. One of the most infrequent services going, service 825, will launch in June running just once a month each way, so god help those who miss it lol! www.dalesbus.org/825.htmlHaving seen the very low number of passengers using it, I'm less surprised that they couldn't justify a weekly service and more surprised that they are bothering at all with one bus a month. It also appears that the KLCH routes – Preston/Lancaster to Richmond via Hawes, and Lancaster to Malham via Settle – have disappeared from the programme, and no indication that KLCH will be running any Sunday service on the 580/581, which is all rather disappointing. Although there is the very good hourly service between Lancaster and Kirkby Lonsdale, that doesn't do a lot for getting people into the Dales when there are no onward connections from there. |
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Post by Burnside on Mar 24, 2023 9:52:45 GMT 1
I think it was a similar story last year, with the Kirkby Lonsdale buses (other than Craven Connection) starting later in the summer than others and no mention online until a few weeks beforehand, so it maybe a case of discussions still taking place or the timetable still being worked on or something hence no mention on the website.
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Post by jimmi on Mar 25, 2023 21:37:06 GMT 1
The 830 & 831 (and usually the 881) generally start mid May. Curiously with the KLCH 830, I noticed recently that Preston was removed from the route description (so starting from Lancaster) then disappeared from the list of summer services not long after (although the 830 page is still there if you click links on other pages on the site). As far as I'm aware, Arriva North East are doing the 831 again this year.
Pretty much all mentions of the 881 have disappeared from the DalesBus site.
580/581 didn't run Sundays last year, presumably the numbers in 2021 when I believe KLCH ran it fully commercially weren't there, was dead when I did it from Kirkby Lonsdale and Skipton.
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Post by o539 on Mar 29, 2023 11:34:05 GMT 1
No news yet on the 821 which goes to scar house reservoir from Keighley via Otley and Pateley Bridge. The last few years it has been run by Keighley Bus Company (KBC).
I would assume it's just not been announced yet as last year it was announced to start at the beginning of May rather than April, and was only announced by KBC at the end of April.
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Post by peter44 on Apr 10, 2023 18:12:45 GMT 1
No news yet on the 821 which goes to scar house reservoir from Keighley via Otley and Pateley Bridge. The last few years it has been run by Keighley Bus Company (KBC). I would assume it's just not been announced yet as last year it was announced to start at the beginning of May rather than April, and was only announced by KBC at the end of April. Registration on VOSA is showing a start date of May 21st for the 821 Keighley to Scar House by KBC |
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Post by jimmi on Apr 10, 2023 20:38:32 GMT 1
No news yet on the 821 which goes to scar house reservoir from Keighley via Otley and Pateley Bridge. The last few years it has been run by Keighley Bus Company (KBC). I would assume it's just not been announced yet as last year it was announced to start at the beginning of May rather than April, and was only announced by KBC at the end of April. Registration on VOSA is showing a start date of May 21st for the 821 Keighley to Scar House by KBC The 821 will be accompanied by a 820 this year, no details of what exactly the 820 route entails but is listed on the summer timetable page alongside the 821 from May 21st as an improved service. 825, 830 & 831 listed but no dates are confirmed for when they'll start although the 825 page as previously reported suggests it will only run the first Sunday of each month between June and September. 881 confirmed to have been withdrawn. |
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Post by deerfold on Apr 11, 2023 9:06:03 GMT 1
Registration on VOSA is showing a start date of May 21st for the 821 Keighley to Scar House by KBC The 821 will be accompanied by a 820 this year, no details of what exactly the 820 route entails but is listed on the summer timetable page alongside the 821 from May 21st as an improved service. I wonder if it's just to clarify that the short run to Otley takes a different route. |
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Post by joseph on Apr 23, 2023 15:04:37 GMT 1
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Post by jimmi on Apr 26, 2023 20:04:21 GMT 1
The 830 from the North West to Hawes & Richmond will not operate in 2023 as a result of the withdrawal of the connection with the DalesRail service from Northern at Ribblehead: lancsbus.blogspot.com/2023/04/no-dales-bus-services-from-lancaster-in.html?spref=fb&m=1Also states 881 was withdrawn owing to low passenger numbers. Meanwhile, Arriva North East have registered their offering for 2023 starting from June 4th, will seemingly run as 831 Middlesbrough to Hawes then as 832 to Kirkby Lonsdale. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Apr 26, 2023 20:18:38 GMT 1
Another new development is the reintroduction of a seasonal Sunday service between Garsdale and Hawes and then continuing to Castle Bolton (presumably via Askrigg) – great to see this side of the valley getting a Sunday service, slightly surprised it doesn't serve Redmire for the Wensleydale Railway as well – but no timetable or start date yet.
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Post by o539 on Apr 26, 2023 20:32:57 GMT 1
The 830 from the North West to Hawes & Richmond will not operate in 2023 as a result of the withdrawal of the connection with the DalesRail service from Northern at Ribblehead: lancsbus.blogspot.com/2023/04/no-dales-bus-services-from-lancaster-in.html?spref=fb&m=1Also states 881 was withdrawn owing to low passenger numbers. Meanwhile, Arriva North East have registered their offering for 2023 starting from June 4th, will seemingly run as 831 Middlesbrough to Hawes then as 832 to Kirkby Lonsdale. I wonder if they might introduce it later on in the year if Northern reintroduces DalesRail as I've seen in a few articles that they are trying to find a way to reintroduce it. One of the main reasons DalesRail was allegedly removed was due to a lack of Sunday overtime drivers, according to one of the news articles I read. On a different note, this year's 821 and 875 timetables have been updated on the bus stops as of a week or so ago. I saw one which said "as of 10/04/2023" meaning it must've been changed relatively quickly after that date as I saw it on the 16th. Not too sure if it's been updated everywhere yet though of course. |
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Post by jimmi on Apr 26, 2023 23:18:48 GMT 1
Another new development is the reintroduction of a seasonal Sunday service between Garsdale and Hawes and then continuing to Castle Bolton (presumably via Askrigg) – great to see this side of the valley getting a Sunday service, slightly surprised it doesn't serve Redmire for the Wensleydale Railway as well – but no timetable or start date yet. Castle Bolton was previously served on the DalesBus network by service 857 a few year back running off the Arriva 830 between Hawes, Leyburn then went to Masham one year then went to Richmond the next (Masham instead being served by an extended 859 from Richmond originating from Preston as 830). I wonder if they might introduce it later on in the year if Northern reintroduces DalesRail as I've seen in a few articles that they are trying to find a way to reintroduce it. One of the main reasons DalesRail was allegedly removed was due to a lack of Sunday overtime drivers, according to one of the news articles I read. On a different note, this year's 821 and 875 timetables have been updated on the bus stops as of a week or so ago. I saw one which said "as of 10/04/2023" meaning it must've been changed relatively quickly after that date as I saw it on the 16th. Not too sure if it's been updated everywhere yet though of course. I doubt even if DalesRail were to be saved to run at some stage this summer, it's likely to be too late to still provide the 830 bus owing to planning and securing methods of funding to actually run the services. |
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Post by SCH117X on Oct 28, 2023 10:55:47 GMT 1
Reliances York-Grassington service found itself without an available stand at Harrogate this morning. There was an anonymous plain white single decker blocking stand 1 leading to the Reliance vehicle stopping to unload and load at the exit from the bus station, so blocking the exit. Suppose it could have been a MoD vehicle, definately not the Enviro 200, but exceptionally unusual for one to be in the bus station as they stop if neccessary on the road beyond.
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Post by lucyp on Oct 29, 2023 0:56:21 GMT 1
Stand 1 isn't used at Harrogate bus station anymore. Ever since the equipment was installed to charge the battery buses, there is insufficient space to reverse from it. The stand usually has a car parked in it that belongs to the staff member in the information kiosk next to Stand 1.
The anonymous white bus is a regular site in Harrogate. It is provided by an employer to take their employees to and from work.
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Post by SCH117X on Oct 29, 2023 11:09:31 GMT 1
Stand 1 isn't used at Harrogate bus station anymore. Ever since the equipment was installed to charge the battery buses, there is insufficient space to reverse from it. The stand usually has a car parked in it that belongs to the staff member in the information kiosk next to Stand 1. The anonymous white bus is a regular site in Harrogate. It is provided by an employer to take their employees to and from work. As I noted white buses are in Harrogate are normally MoD vehicles but do not normally use the bus station. There is no issue in using stand 1 caused by the EV equipment. Stands 3 to 5 are the ones equipped with the overhead charging equipment and this flickr photo shows the sole issue to a vehicle reversing out of stand 1, as with the other stands, is a vehicle parked against the back wall www.flickr.com/photos/167728647@N08/53290676412And this photo of a 74 leaving also shows the overflow santuary if needed of stand 1 could not have been used that day as one of Transdevs Gemini 2s was occupying it. www.flickr.com/photos/6228_leeds/52122175568 The 74 was nearly 10 miniutes late yesterday arriving which probably explained the lack of a stand - it presumably got caught in a lengthy tailback from Starbeck level crossing taking 9 1/2 minutes to cover a booked 3 minute journey. |
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