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Post by Craig on Jul 9, 2008 18:37:29 GMT 1
Perhaps I'm being a little premature and speculative here, but in amongst the many listings appearing on VOSA for the end of August change 'window' (many of which might only be reverting to post-school holiday timetables and/or changes to school journeys), I noticed a new registration from First for a 606 Bradford to Holme Wood daily service. I know the 606 currently is a Sunday morning variation to the 607, but I wondered perhaps is the 607 being split into two sections?
Also the planned City Circle withdrawal is now confirmed on VOSA for the end of August.
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Post by glennh2 on Jul 9, 2008 18:48:48 GMT 1
There are quite a lot of changes planned for Arriva's services (226/227/228, 231/232 and 254/255/256 are all mentioned) too
Also from a Calderdale point of view service 508 is to have its stopping places and timetable changed and the Hebden Bridger services are being altered as well accroding to VOSA
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Post by Craig on Jul 9, 2008 19:14:05 GMT 1
Just bear in mind that a lot of these changes (particularly with Arriva services) could be just alterations to school time journeys. (Then again it is Arriva, so its probably time for more network cuts!)
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 9, 2008 22:19:11 GMT 1
A lot of the changes can be very minor, with VOSA there is no way of knowing. They are also well know as being quite inaccurate, the registrations often still refer to services that no longer run
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Post by Craig on Jul 9, 2008 22:30:41 GMT 1
They are also well know as being quite inaccurate, the registrations often still refer to services that no longer run True, but with knowledge of the route's history it is usually easy to ascertain which registration applies to which services. It is annoying that relatively recently the notice period was increased from 42 to 56 days, and yet still the general public are often kept out of the loop until a week or so before changes kick in. |
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Post by glennh2 on Jul 10, 2008 22:24:02 GMT 1
Todays VOSA additions include a number of "to amend Timetable" variations for Arriva both throughout Wakefield and on Leeds-Selby, and for Halifax Joint Committee in Calderdale
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Post by nick on Jul 13, 2008 17:26:21 GMT 1
Leeds has not had any signifcant changes in about 2-3 years. Any this august or just amend timetable adjust a few times etc.
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Post by jackh on Jul 13, 2008 17:55:14 GMT 1
Leeds has not had any signifcant changes in about 2-3 years. Any this august or just amend timetable adjust a few times etc. Why do you want big service changes Nick? The current network obviously proves to be effective. And remember, big changes attracts negative publicity for First and can result in a decline in patronage. Just look at Arriva and you can see what I mean! |
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Post by mattyr88 on Jul 14, 2008 10:17:55 GMT 1
where abouts on the vosa website do you get this information? i can find it anywhere
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Post by the110 on Jul 14, 2008 10:49:59 GMT 1
Todays VOSA additions include a number of "to amend Timetable" variations for Arriva both throughout Wakefield and on Leeds-Selby, and for Halifax Joint Committee in Calderdale It has been said that the changes to the Leeds - Selby will be on the 402 as this will be diverted of its route now to call at kippax to replace Castlefords runs. |
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Post by glennh2 on Jul 14, 2008 13:45:23 GMT 1
I was presuming that the 606 service might be to replace withdrawn services 601 and 602 in the Holme Wood area
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Post by Craig on Jul 14, 2008 18:20:34 GMT 1
I was presuming that the 606 service might be to replace withdrawn services 601 and 602 in the Holme Wood area It's not impossible, but would be a bit pointless, as the City Circle route through Holme Wood follows the same routes as the 607 and 617/618 which already have frequent services to Bradford city centre. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2008 13:55:43 GMT 1
In summary, it is proposed to replace the City Circle services as follows:
• A new service Bradford Interchange - St Luke's Hospital - Little Horton - Lidgett Green - Bradford Royal Infirmary - Bingley
• An extension of service 670 (Bradford - Greengates - Leeds) to serve Undercliffe and Killinghall
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Post by angrycommuter on Jul 17, 2008 16:19:15 GMT 1
Will the Arriva changes in August be in conjunction with the introduction of the new buses in Heckmondwike? Hopefully there won't be any service reductions.
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Post by glennh2 on Jul 21, 2008 23:05:31 GMT 1
Metro Local services ML9, ML10, ML11 and ML12 now registered to start September in Dewsbury and Thornhill according to VOSA
Also Arriva changes to Netherton services from Wakefield, First change to service 56 and M Travel change to service 183
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Post by angrycommuter on Jul 22, 2008 10:44:44 GMT 1
Where are the new Metro Local services going to serve in Dewsbury?
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Post by jackh on Jul 22, 2008 15:59:32 GMT 1
M Travel have also registered an alteration to the 134 service.
I would image the 56 changes will reflect the new University year.
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Post by glennh2 on Jul 23, 2008 17:03:31 GMT 1
Service 900 is due for a Route and Timetable change on 31/08
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Post by Craig on Jul 30, 2008 18:22:31 GMT 1
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Post by Craig on Jul 31, 2008 18:14:18 GMT 1
Some brief information taken from Metro, and would you believe it, it involves more Arriva service cuts.
As previously mentioned the 135/136 will have a service frequency reduction.
Also the 410 will now terminate at Pontefract, with the 150 being extended to cover Broomhill in Knottingley.
The 402/403 will be cut to hourly (buses will no longer serve the Garforth Cliff area which will instead be served by a diverted 174). However there is no mention of the 402 being routed through Kippax as mentioned earlier on here, although this doesn't mean it is definitely not happening.
The 164 peak service, currently providing a faster link from Leeds to Kippax and the only link from Leeds to Ledston Luck, will be withdrawn.
There are also apparently other "minor" changes on other commercial services, particularly on evening and Saturday journeys.
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Post by humberside on Jul 31, 2008 21:15:01 GMT 1
The Selby service cut is a big one. For example, going from 10 to 15 minutes is a big loss of capacity but to the passenger the service is still fairly frequent. Going from Half Hourly to Hourly is a big cut though. Miss your bus and 55 minutes is a lot longer to wait than 25 minutes
I assume the 402/403/406 don't get much Selby-Leeds through traffic
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Post by jackh on Aug 1, 2008 13:28:27 GMT 1
Is this cut throughout the whole route as this will come as a bit of a blow for Sherburn-in-Elmet which does have a fairly large population. I'm sure Arriva could sustain a half hourly service between Sherburn, Monk Fryston, Hambleton, Thorpe Willoughby and Selby.
If not, then the 403 will have to cover the top half of Thorpe Willoughby which the 402 currently serves unless that part of the village will recieve no bus service at all.
Will there still be an hourly service on Sundays with the two hourly 406 which serves Brayton as well.
Afterall, do you reckon this route has fallen victim to the free travel scheme as the majority of daytime passengers are travelling for nothing.
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Post by angrycommuter on Aug 1, 2008 13:52:15 GMT 1
Arriva cuts services again.... what a surprise. Pretty soon there will be one bus doing a huge long winded route serving the whole of Yorkshire!
I though the 402/3 were core services for the company, and if the buses had been fitted with guide wheels they could have been a great deal more popular down York Road.
How come companies like Transdev are able to expand and create new services whereas Arriva are not? Is the company run by nesbits?!
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Post by mattyr88 on Aug 1, 2008 18:57:10 GMT 1
you can't reduce the 402/403 service, its far too much of a demand for passengers. its very popular, this would be a killer for sherburn if it was to become hourly, could do with being a tad more frequent then what it is now if you ask me
Reason for Editing: changed ya to you
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 1, 2008 23:52:31 GMT 1
you can't reduce the 402/403 service, its far too much of a demand for passengers. its very popular, this would be a killer for sherburn if it was to become hourly, could do with being a tad more frequent then what it is now if you ask me Reason for Editing: changed ya to youwheres it popular between 'cos when ever i been on between colton and leeds its dead! |
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