WYBS
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Post by WYBS on May 21, 2022 11:40:53 GMT 1
Which bus stop allocations do not make sense/ are badly positioned for layovers on routes and creating traffic jams etc...
For example Wellington Street A and B in Leeds. The 4 and 16 stop at A, yet the 42 (which does the same route as the 4 & 16 up to tong road) goes from B!
508s and 15s are forever sat on City Square F (Park Row); preventing Kirkstall Road services pulling up to the curb. God forbid there is a wheelchair user waiting.
Victoria B (Eastgate) has no shelter, but 42s stop there. Lower down Victoria C has a shelter but no services using it!
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Post by Tom on May 21, 2022 12:04:21 GMT 1
Which bus stop allocations do not make sense/ are badly positioned for layovers on routes and creating traffic jams etc... For example Wellington Street A and B in Leeds. The 4 and 16 stop at A, yet the 42 (which does the same route as the 4 & 16 up to tong road) goes from B! 508s and 15s are forever sat on City Square F (Park Row); preventing Kirkstall Road services pulling up to the curb. God forbid there is a wheelchair user waiting. Victoria B (Eastgate) has no shelter, but 42s stop there. Lower down Victoria C has a shelter but no services using it! The 42 always seems to have been just dumped wherever it can go. Before the works it used to be stuck with the X98/X99 outside the Three Legs. At one point they’d stopped it stopping at the two stops ok Wellington Street opposite WYCA/Metro so they just plonked a stop in outside Greggs and the building site for what is now Central Square
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Post by Burnside on May 21, 2022 16:06:49 GMT 1
Not quite on topic, but Metro allocate stands in Ilkley bus station dependant on direction of travel.
Stand C is for buses towards Otley but would frequently have 2 buses trying to use it at once when the 962 (due at xx:18) was running a few moments late and the X52 (due out at xx:25) had already arrived.
Then, First rejigged the X84 to depart at xx:26 meaning you could have 3 buses all trying to use Stand C at the same time.
Interestingly, the course of action taken by Metro was to move most Mon-Sat X84's to Stand A, out by the entrance from Station Rd, which looks a tight manouevre for a Streetdeck or E400MMC.
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Post by deerfold on May 21, 2022 17:28:43 GMT 1
Not quite on topic, but Metro allocate stands in Ilkley bus station dependant on direction of travel. Do they? The 62 and 64 to Addingham go from different stands. The Sunday buses to Skipton don't use the same stand as the weekday buses. And, as you've pointed out, buses to Otley now go from different stands.
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Post by mattb7tl on May 21, 2022 17:51:58 GMT 1
185 - Huddersfield to Marsden, it definitely doesn't look fun turning a bus around at the last stop
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Post by Burnside on May 21, 2022 19:02:12 GMT 1
Not quite on topic, but Metro allocate stands in Ilkley bus station dependant on direction of travel. Do they? The 62 and 64 to Addingham go from different stands. The Sunday buses to Skipton don't use the same stand as the weekday buses. And, as you've pointed out, buses to Otley now go from different stands. That's how it used to appear, at least grouping certain services tgether if not by direction, by vehicle type. Stand A was various small bus routes, the 74A to Grassington, 873 & 884 to Skipton, 962 to Hebers Ghyll. Stand B was big buses towards Addingham, so 762, X84 and DalesBus, plus the Sunday 862 to keighley. Stand C was big buses towards Otley, X52, X84, 62 when it went through to the airport. The exceptions were the Otley 962 now uses C, but before they merged it with the Hebers Ghyll route, it went from A with the other small bus routes, the X84 has recently been moved (for certain journeys) to A from C, the 64 at some point after the Skipton bit was dropped from the X84 has been moved to A. Looking at the timetables, the 62 and 64 look as though they are at Ilkley at similar times (given they interwork), so makes sense to have separate stops, the X52 departed at xx:25 while the X84 now runs at xx:26 and xx:56 plus the 962 at xx:18 plus 17:34 so all due on the same stand very close to each other, it was not unusual, even before the X84 was retimed and relocated, for a combination of any 2 or even all 3 to arrive at the same time, meaning passengers walking in front of 1 bus to get to another parked alongside or 1 having to use a different stand and then having to brake sharply to pick up a straggler or 2 who'd been waiting for it at the booked stand.
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Post by Username on May 22, 2022 17:59:17 GMT 1
George Street Stop 25 in Halifax is far too busy. I think they should move route 532 and 541/2 to George Street Stop 24.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on May 29, 2022 23:40:09 GMT 1
185 - Huddersfield to Marsden, it definitely doesn't look fun turning a bus around at the last stop I once was in Marsden back in 2008 and the 185 couldn’t serve Dirker Drive due to badly parked car. So me and 4 other gentleman helped the bus driver 3 point turn and reverse at the Marsden Rail Station pub.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on May 30, 2022 16:58:12 GMT 1
645 on journeys to Buttershaw it calls at Bradford Interchange,while buses to Greengates & Ravenscliffle called at Hall Ings
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 30, 2022 17:21:11 GMT 1
645 on journeys to Buttershaw it calls at Bradford Interchange,while buses to Greengates & Ravenscliffle called at Hall Ings Originally 645 only called at the Interchange (towards Buttershaw) evenings and Sundays. There's not enough slack in the timetable for a call in the other direction. Also it's quite a complicated manœuvre to call at Hall Ings H3 (from Buttershaw) which is partly why 640/41 don't run this way any longer. Many other routes don't run via the Interchange either for various reasons.
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