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Post by joseph on Sept 25, 2021 18:33:41 GMT 1
Bus 60 this afternoon has seen at least one board missing, and the 662 even with the reduced timetable continues to see gaps in service with something like a 27 minute gap between 2 services. The 60 defo had a cancelled board, but I'm unsure if the 662 was running really late as the next 662 wasn't showing up for another 15 minutes. I got a mid morning 60 to Keighley, and the roads wern't bad with only a small queue for petrol past Bingley, so I'm almost certain traffic hold ups wasn't the problem. Even Greengates wasn't too bad lol. Do the new timetables need reducing further perhaps, say running a 662 every 20 mins and the 60 terminating short on Park Row like the 508? As a side note, I wish the word CANCELLED would show on real time screens, as it's almost guess work when it's just showing a time.
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 25, 2021 18:44:43 GMT 1
Bus 60 this afternoon has seen at least one board missing, and the 662 even with the reduced timetable continues to see gaps in service with something like a 27 minute gap between 2 services. The 60 defo had a cancelled board, but I'm unsure if the 662 was running really late as the next 662 wasn't showing up for another 15 minutes. I got a mid morning 60 to Keighley, and the roads wern't bad with only a small queue for petrol past Bingley, so I'm almost certain traffic hold ups wasn't the problem. Even Greengates wasn't too bad lol. Do the new timetables need reducing further perhaps, say running a 662 every 20 mins and the 60 terminating short on Park Row like the 508? As a side note, I wish the word CANCELLED would show on real time screens, as it's almost guess work when it's just showing a time. The real-time info screens are controlled by Metro and since the changed to the current LED ones i've never ever seen the full data on the boards used especially the on-time status function.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 25, 2021 18:52:09 GMT 1
I’ve seen First services shown as Cancelled on the real time screens
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Post by WYBS on Sept 25, 2021 21:40:19 GMT 1
I was in Leeds waiting for the 15:45 760, which failed to arrive. The very polite transdev advisor was apologetic and giving us updates on the service. A B9 pulled in at 16:12, loaded up, and set off straight away; shooting down Kirkstall Road.
We really don't need the 760 terminating at Park Row. Having the 670/ 35 cancelled, and the 508 stopping short of the majority of the city centre is bad enough for residents on those routes.
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Post by northerner on Sept 25, 2021 22:07:28 GMT 1
The 60 has been horrendous today, it was down to an hourly service for most of the afternoon with the 1345, 1445 and 1545 from Leeds cancelled. I went for the 1115 from Leeds which was also a no show and whilst my return journey did run it was over 20 minutes late, mostly due to increased dwell at stops due to passenger volumes. As usual from Transdev there's nothing on their social media to advise of any disruptions, and the duty managers aren't bothering to mark cancelled journeys through the next bus system so its a case of assuming anything not showing real time info isn't running.
I get the driver shortages are unavoidable and can't be resolved overnight, but communication is vital right now and the Keighley team need to do more to get the info out there
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Post by joseph on Sept 26, 2021 8:09:39 GMT 1
I was in Leeds waiting for the 15:45 760, which failed to arrive. The very polite transdev advisor was apologetic and giving us updates on the service. A B9 pulled in at 16:12, loaded up, and set off straight away; shooting down Kirkstall Road. We really don't need the 760 terminating at Park Row. Having the 670/ 35 cancelled, and the 508 stopping short of the majority of the city centre is bad enough for residents on those routes. Not going off topic but Beeston and Holbeck residents have put up with shortened journeys to Park Row only for a good while now, especially when the Infirmary Street and Park Row improvements were on going. There aren't even any alternatives for both areas without a walk, e.g. down the hill to Elland Road which is not great on the way back lol. if it means the 60 can run a full half hourly service then a curtailed route at Park Row is a must, otherwise the next thing you'll see is the 60 reduced to every hour off peak, with reductions at peak times too, and I doubt you'd want to see that lol.
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Post by kendall17 on Sept 26, 2021 8:44:08 GMT 1
Terminting at Park Row could also save you a driver or two. Not the most ridiculous suggestion you've come up with 😂
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Post by joseph on Sept 26, 2021 9:52:55 GMT 1
Terminting at Park Row could also save you a driver or two. Not the most ridiculous suggestion you've come up with 😂 Exactly that, it'll save at least one driver, maybe 2 during peak times. Off peak, say on a Saturday, a bus is coming into town just as one is leaving, they usually pass each other on Wellington Street. It'll need a timetable adjustment with 5 mins less layover in Keighley so it arrives in time to do the next run from Park Row, but it is possible to do, and you still have a good 7 minutes turnaround at Keighley in case of late running.
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Post by deerfold on Sept 27, 2021 14:52:13 GMT 1
I'm not sure the extra 0728 journey on the 60 has run at all. I needed to get to the other end of Dalton Lane during this morning's torrential downpour so thought I'd catch it. It was displaying a time until I bailed and got the 0724 662 just to Asda. I then walked down Dalton Lane and it didn't pass me.
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Post by rwilkes on Oct 3, 2021 21:56:10 GMT 1
Transdev say they have over 100 trained up drivers awaiting DVLA approval. Thats a lot of trouble which harms Transdev customers due to government failure. Maybe the guys who should be on twitter are driving buses
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Post by stephen01 on Oct 3, 2021 22:10:35 GMT 1
Transdev say they have over 100 trained up drivers awaiting DVLA approval. Thats a lot of trouble which harms Transdev customers due to government failure. Maybe the guys who should be on twitter are driving buses They must be short staffed as every weekend for the last month at least i've seen the instructors/mentors from the training school tweeting that they are all out on the road.
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Post by joseph on Oct 24, 2021 9:22:29 GMT 1
I've decided to re-name the thread to Transdev as looking at another forum, there are huge issues elsewhere as well. Last night for example, the last X43 bus from Manchester did not run leaving many stranded, I know it's overnight, however clearly someone knew in advance it would not run, you'd think they'd train everyone in the basics of putting a twitter post out as waiting on a cold night for a bus that ain't coming isn't fun and clearly isn't going to convert people from taking a taxi in future.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 24, 2021 10:31:56 GMT 1
I've decided to re-name the thread to Transdev as looking at another forum, there are huge issues elsewhere as well. Last night for example, the last X43 bus from Manchester did not run leaving many stranded, I know it's overnight, however clearly someone knew in advance it would not run, you'd think they'd train everyone in the basics of putting a twitter post out as waiting on a cold night for a bus that ain't coming isn't fun and clearly isn't going to convert people from taking a taxi in future. I would expect the last bus of the day to run, or the company to put on alternative transportation, diverting a bus from going to the depôt etc. K bus once had the last 697 break down on the outward part, so had to wait for a bus coming off The Shuttle at Bradford to run back in service to Keighley.
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Post by moorside on Oct 24, 2021 17:55:27 GMT 1
I've decided to re-name the thread to Transdev as looking at another forum, there are huge issues elsewhere as well. Last night for example, the last X43 bus from Manchester did not run leaving many stranded, I know it's overnight, however clearly someone knew in advance it would not run, you'd think they'd train everyone in the basics of putting a twitter post out as waiting on a cold night for a bus that ain't coming isn't fun and clearly isn't going to convert people from taking a taxi in future. I would expect the last bus of the day to run, or the company to put on alternative transportation, diverting a bus from going to the depôt etc. K bus once had the last 697 break down on the outward part, so had to wait for a bus coming off The Shuttle at Bradford to run back in service to Keighley. A couple of weeks ago I was returning home to Walsall after a day out in Halifax with old friends, one of whom now lives near Chester so he ran me back to Stockport for the train. The train back to Wolverhampton, last of the day, was cancelled due to someone sadly being hit by a train. The train company had several staff members at the station: I was the only passenger travelling so far, and they laid on a taxi to take me right home to Walsall, nearly two hours on the road. On the other hand, if you're left waiting even at a main bus station for the bus, the time just scrolls off the top of the display whether the bus has arrived or not, and you're left with absolutely no info as to what's happening, and if it's the last bus it's up to you to get a taxi or walk or call a friend. OK, you can't expect live info at every stop, but you would think that with the PA system at bus stations there would be some way to get a message to waiting passengers.
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Post by joseph on Mar 19, 2022 12:08:06 GMT 1
Things have got really bad of late on the 36, but today must be the worst it's been for some time. There will only be a half hourly service for the bulk of the day today, from Leeds every short working to Harrogate from 10.55am til 5.30pm is cancelled, and from Harrogate all the short workings from 10.55am until 4.25pm is cancelled, bus 7 also sees 3 buses from Leeds and 1 from Harrogate cancelled, today will be rammed and I think Transdev must sort out a more suitable solution soon before this joke of a route ends up failing, which at this rate it will as already we are seeing many angry peak time passengers super hacked off when their journey is cancelled. Maybe reducing another route such as services on the 1 will help, after all that's already covered in part by the Connexions X1 so maybe for the sake of passengers they could for once work together instead of competing like village idiots whilst other passengers get hacked off and ditch bus travel!
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Post by WYBS on Mar 19, 2022 12:32:49 GMT 1
Things have got really bad of late on the 36, but today must be the worst it's been for some time. There will only be a half hourly service for the bulk of the day today, from Leeds every short working to Harrogate from 10.55am til 5.30pm is cancelled, and from Harrogate all the short workings from 10.55am until 4.25pm is cancelled, bus 7 also sees 3 buses from Leeds and 1 from Harrogate cancelled, today will be rammed and I think Transdev must sort out a more suitable solution soon before this joke of a route ends up failing, which at this rate it will as already we are seeing many angry peak time passengers super hacked off when their journey is cancelled. Maybe reducing another route such as services on the 1 will help, after all that's already covered in part by the Connexions X1 so maybe for the sake of passengers they could for once work together instead of competing like village idiots whilst other passengers get hacked off and ditch bus travel! I can't ever see Mr Temple and Mr Hornby ever working together, unfortunately. It does surprise me that Harrogate are short of drivers though. You would think it's one of the nicer depots to drive out of and can't be getting as much abuse and hassle from customers as say... driving the No.5 out of Hunslet (no offence to the people of Halton Moor, but it's true). Then again, I've seen a few posts from (recent) ex-drivers who say the company aren't as nice to work for as they would have you believe.
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Post by westriding on Mar 19, 2022 17:23:19 GMT 1
By way of posting a balanced article Joseph, are you compiling cancellation statistics for First and Arriva locally?
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Post by joseph on Mar 19, 2022 20:27:07 GMT 1
By way of posting a balanced article Joseph, are you compiling cancellation statistics for First and Arriva locally? No, that would take far too long to find out to be honest, at least Transdev are publishing everything in one place.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 19, 2022 21:49:43 GMT 1
Although almost a week old the latest Covid figures (week ending 13 Mar) have Harrogate sky high yet again - per 100,000; Harrogate 690 Leeds 493 Bradford 328
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 19, 2022 22:10:14 GMT 1
I can't ever see Mr Temple and Mr Hornby ever working together, unfortunately. The hatchet was buried a few years back on a snowy day when Connexions ran out of the bus station at Knaresborough rather than casuing a traffic jam on the A59. They are however the aggresor in the competition and their Knaresborough services are not wholly reqular with afternoon journeys missing due to school demands and a period of of workings to Knaresboorugh as X1Bs only and back as X1As making for a very elongated journey for Knaresborough estates residents plus any waiting time at St James Retail Park
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Post by Mr D Roebuck-Johnson on Apr 17, 2023 19:24:24 GMT 1
Two on the bounce from Leeds caped. No bud for over a hour !
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Monday 17th April BronteBus BI Keighley, Bus Station to Stanbury, Hob Hill 2.25pm, 3.25pm Stanbury, Hob Hill to Keighley, Bus Station 2.53pm, 3.53pm Aireline 60 Keighley Bus Station to Leeds Interchange 2.10pm, 3pm Leeds Interchange to Keighley Bus Station 4.30pm, 4.55pm the 62 Keighley Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 2.15pm Ilkley Bus Station to Keighley, Bus Station 4.19pm the 64 Ilkley Rail Station to Skipton, Bus Station 3.17 pm Skipton, Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 3.50 pm the 64 Ilkley Rail Station to Skipton, Bus Station 3.17 pm Skipton, Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 3.50 pm Dalesway 66 Keighley, Bus Station to Skipton Bus Station 3.05pm Skipton Bus Station to Keighley, Bus Station 4pm theShuttle 662 Keighley Bus Station to Bradford Interchange 1pm, 1.30pm, 2.10pm, 2.30pm, 3pm, 3.26pm, 3.41pm, 4.20pm Bradford Interchange to Keighley Bus Station 1.58pm, 2.28pm, 3.13pm, 3.37 pm, 4.07pm, 4.37 pm, 4.52pm, 5.31pm
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Post by WYBS on Apr 17, 2023 20:13:11 GMT 1
Two on the bounce from Leeds caped. No bud for over a hour ! Unbelievable Monday 17th April BronteBus BI Keighley, Bus Station to Stanbury, Hob Hill 2.25pm, 3.25pm Stanbury, Hob Hill to Keighley, Bus Station 2.53pm, 3.53pm Aireline 60 Keighley Bus Station to Leeds Interchange 2.10pm, 3pm Leeds Interchange to Keighley Bus Station 4.30pm, 4.55pm the 62 Keighley Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 2.15pm Ilkley Bus Station to Keighley, Bus Station 4.19pm the 64 Ilkley Rail Station to Skipton, Bus Station 3.17 pm Skipton, Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 3.50 pm the 64 Ilkley Rail Station to Skipton, Bus Station 3.17 pm Skipton, Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 3.50 pm Dalesway 66 Keighley, Bus Station to Skipton Bus Station 3.05pm Skipton Bus Station to Keighley, Bus Station 4pm theShuttle 662 Keighley Bus Station to Bradford Interchange 1pm, 1.30pm, 2.10pm, 2.30pm, 3pm, 3.26pm, 3.41pm, 4.20pm Bradford Interchange to Keighley Bus Station 1.58pm, 2.28pm, 3.13pm, 3.37 pm, 4.07pm, 4.37 pm, 4.52pm, 5.31pm The last time I got a bus home from town (carrying a brand new guitar I'd just bought) there were two single deckers at rush hour. They were both, of course rammed; especially now with the extra custom from 508 passengers. Had to stand next to the driver, desperately clinging onto my new Adrian Smith Jackson San Dimas and get on and off everytime the doors opened! Out of interest can the Presidents not run into Leeds because of the clean air zone in Shipley? This was Easter holidays so should have been plenty available.
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Post by northerner on Apr 17, 2023 21:14:33 GMT 1
Two on the bounce from Leeds caped. No bud for over a hour ! Unbelievable Monday 17th April BronteBus BI Keighley, Bus Station to Stanbury, Hob Hill 2.25pm, 3.25pm Stanbury, Hob Hill to Keighley, Bus Station 2.53pm, 3.53pm Aireline 60 Keighley Bus Station to Leeds Interchange 2.10pm, 3pm Leeds Interchange to Keighley Bus Station 4.30pm, 4.55pm the 62 Keighley Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 2.15pm Ilkley Bus Station to Keighley, Bus Station 4.19pm the 64 Ilkley Rail Station to Skipton, Bus Station 3.17 pm Skipton, Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 3.50 pm the 64 Ilkley Rail Station to Skipton, Bus Station 3.17 pm Skipton, Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station 3.50 pm Dalesway 66 Keighley, Bus Station to Skipton Bus Station 3.05pm Skipton Bus Station to Keighley, Bus Station 4pm theShuttle 662 Keighley Bus Station to Bradford Interchange 1pm, 1.30pm, 2.10pm, 2.30pm, 3pm, 3.26pm, 3.41pm, 4.20pm Bradford Interchange to Keighley Bus Station 1.58pm, 2.28pm, 3.13pm, 3.37 pm, 4.07pm, 4.37 pm, 4.52pm, 5.31pm The list of cancellations posted wasn't accurate - with regards the 60 it was the 4pm and 4.55 from Leeds which were cancelled, although the 4.55 did start from Kirkstall. It didn't help that the 4.30 didn't leave until around 4.45 so there was still a gap of almost 90 minutes which is poor. They've also seemingly reverted to the practise of failing to mark cancelled journeys in the next bus system, so affected journeys will show scheduled times at bus stops. Using singles on the 60 isn't ideal, especially when some drivers based at Keighley seem to think half a dozen standing passengers at the front means they can drive past everyone else.
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Post by Mr D Roebuck-Johnson on Apr 18, 2023 7:13:56 GMT 1
According to my contact at Keighley the cancellations are only some of them. There are many others which occur short notice which don’t go on that list. Apparently 46 trip / journeys over the network didn’t operate yesterday at Keighley. There is a massive backlog in CPC training ( previous management ticked can down the road on this ) and drivers are refusing overtime because any traffic delay to finishing time is not being paid. Some drivers have left the company within the last couple of weeks.
A massive spiral of decline now at Transdev because of the reality of what was being covered up previously by the spin.
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Post by lucyp on Apr 18, 2023 14:24:10 GMT 1
Respect to you Mr D Roebuck-Johnson for posting the truth about Transdev. Do you want to join me in the nuclear bunker, because they don't like anyone to criticise Transdev, or previous management, on here!
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