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Post by stephen01 on Jul 23, 2021 18:25:12 GMT 1
So the first service change for September 2021 just announced by Arriva for 261;
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 23, 2021 21:08:12 GMT 1
Reinstating the frequency that the 262 used to run
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 23, 2021 21:38:52 GMT 1
Reinstating the frequency that the 262 used to run Possibly but the question is it going to be similarly to the 262 from when it ran Huddersfield to Brighouse (30 mins with 1 an hour on full route and 1 an hour on the Upper Heaton circular ) or on the frequency when 262 ran to Dewsbury which was every 15 mins (30 mins with 2 buses to Dewsbury an hour and 2 bus an hour on the circular) |
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Post by moorside on Jul 24, 2021 1:32:52 GMT 1
Reinstating the frequency that the 262 used to run Possibly but the question is it going to be similarly to the 262 from when it ran Huddersfield to Brighouse (30 mins with 1 an hour on full route and 1 an hour on the Upper Heaton circular ) or on the frequency when 262 ran to Dewsbury which was every 15 mins (30 mins with 2 buses to Dewsbury an hour and 2 bus an hour on the circular) It looks like the former, it does say on the notice (a bit difficult to read), "up to every 30 minutes between Kirkheaton and Huddersfield" |
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Post by SF07 on Jul 25, 2021 20:59:49 GMT 1
Team Pennine have tweeted this evening about a "quick bus into Huddersfield" from Kirkheaton, which suggests we'll see an enhanced service around Kirkheaton with Arriva's 261 service and Transdev's TBC service. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 25, 2021 21:13:21 GMT 1
Team Pennine have tweeted this evening about a "quick bus into Huddersfield" from Kirkheaton, which suggests we'll see an enhanced service around Kirkheaton with Arriva's 261 service and Transdev's TBC service. Not taken long for a "turf war" to start. |
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Post by twy7 on Jul 25, 2021 21:49:01 GMT 1
Team Pennine have tweeted this evening about a "quick bus into Huddersfield" from Kirkheaton, which suggests we'll see an enhanced service around Kirkheaton with Arriva's 261 service and Transdev's TBC service. Oooooooh arriva wont like that ! It is day number 1 after buying it and they go to attack but did not think that was transdev style. I am actually very surprised. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 25, 2021 22:02:22 GMT 1
Team Pennine have tweeted this evening about a "quick bus into Huddersfield" from Kirkheaton, which suggests we'll see an enhanced service around Kirkheaton with Arriva's 261 service and Transdev's TBC service. Oooooooh arriva wont like that ! It is day number 1 after buying it and they go to attack but did not think that was transdev style. I am actually very surprised. It's more to do with Councilors whinging. Surprised it's not running Mirfield yet as they've been whinging about missing out. |
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Post by deerfold on Jul 25, 2021 22:10:06 GMT 1
Hadn't realised Kirkheaton was down to only one bus an hour these days. Looks like interesting times ahead.
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Post by leeds rider on Jul 26, 2021 18:19:53 GMT 1
First batch of registrations for September 4th/6th are through from Arriva: - Route and timetable changes for: 64, 189, 493
- Amended timetables for: Selby 1, 2, 3, 5, 42; 126/127, 200/201/201A, 202/203, 205, 212/212A, 213, 228, 229, 254/254A/255/X25, 256, 261, 268, 271, 401, 415, 476, TK1, TK2
- Plus amendments to a handful of school services
Doesn't look like anything earth-shattering - most interesting bit will be the exact "Changes to timetable" on the 261!
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Post by dlspotter on Jul 26, 2021 18:26:12 GMT 1
First batch of registrations for September 4th/6th are through from Arriva: - Route and timetable changes for: 64, 189, 493
- Amended timetables for: Selby 1, 2, 3, 5, 42; 126/127, 200/201/201A, 202/203, 205, 212/212A, 213, 228, 229, 254/254A/255/X25, 256, 261, 268, 271, 401, 415, 476, TK1, TK2
- Plus amendments to a handful of school services
Doesn't look like anything earth-shattering - most interesting bit will be the exact "Changes to timetable" on the 261!
Another 189 route change, within two months of axing the Leeds portion  |
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Post by wibble on Jul 27, 2021 9:17:13 GMT 1
Word is First Huddersfield have lost a few school contracts from September...
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Post by deerfold on Jul 27, 2021 9:35:36 GMT 1
Word is First Huddersfield have lost a few school contracts from September... Are they the ones Team Pennine have won? |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 28, 2021 19:34:10 GMT 1
Remember a timetable change could be the 0520 bus now runs 2 minutes later
I’ve lost track the amount of times people here have got excited about possible changes, coming up with all these wild ideas, and then they end up just being “A revised timetable to improve reliability” where you can barely actually work out what has changed
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Post by SF07 on Jul 29, 2021 13:47:37 GMT 1
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Post by leeds rider on Aug 3, 2021 10:59:18 GMT 1
The folks at Team Pennine have obviously been busy, as the following applications have gone in for changes from 5th September:
NEW services:
262 Huddersfield Bus Station - Kirkheaton
C25 Halifax Bus Station - Trintity Academy
SC1 Emley - Shelly College
SC2 Thunder Bridge - Shelly College
VARIATIONS (no more details for now - could just be minor timetable changes, or something bigger):
20 Halifax Wards End - Rye Lane via Pellon Lane
21 Halifax - Rye Lane
22 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station
321 (323, 324) Huddersfield - Meltham/Marten Nest via Netherton
343 Huddersfield - Halifax via West Vale, Greetland, Elland, BLackle, Lindley
435 (437, 437A, 436,436A) Holmfirth - Wakefield via New Mill, Shepley, Denby Dale, Skelmanthorpe, Clayton West
502 Halifax, Albion Street - Keighley Bus Station via Denholme, Cullingworth
514 Halifax Bus Station - Wainstalls via Hopwood Lane
524 Halifax Bus Station - Wainstalls via Ovendon, Illingworth
526 Halifax - Hunger Hill/Shelf via Ovendon, Queensbury
530 Halifax - Fountainhead via Pellon Lane
531 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station via Highroad Well
532 Halifax, Wards End - Halifax, Wards End via Scarr Bottom
533 (534) Halifax - Halifax via Northowram
536 (537) Halifax, Market Street - Huddersfield Bus Station via Stainland
546 Halifax - Halifax, Highroad Well via Warley
561 (562) Halifax - Halifax via Sowerby Bridge, Ripponden, Barkisland, Greetland
563 (563A) Halifax - Brighouse via Elland
574 Halifax - Halifax via Saville Park, King Cross, Sowerby Bridge
577 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station via Saville Park, Sowerby Bridge
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Post by deerfold on Aug 3, 2021 12:39:08 GMT 1
Thought the Kirkheaton service might be more interesting than just more 261/2s.
Here's hoping the 502 becomes better timed with the 67 between Bradford and Denholme Gate and possibly the 526 at the other end of the route.
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Post by jus363 on Aug 3, 2021 15:41:28 GMT 1
The folks at Team Pennine have obviously been busy, as the following applications have gone in for changes from 5th September: NEW services: 262 Huddersfield Bus Station - Kirkheaton C25 Halifax Bus Station - Trintity Academy SC1 Emley - Shelly College SC2 Thunder Bridge - Shelly College VARIATIONS (no more details for now - could just be minor timetable changes, or something bigger): 20 Halifax Wards End - Rye Lane via Pellon Lane 21 Halifax - Rye Lane 22 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station 321 (323, 324) Huddersfield - Meltham/Marten Nest via Netherton 343 Huddersfield - Halifax via West Vale, Greetland, Elland, BLackle, Lindley 435 (437, 437A, 436,436A) Holmfirth - Wakefield via New Mill, Shepley, Denby Dale, Skelmanthorpe, Clayton West 502 Halifax, Albion Street - Keighley Bus Station via Denholme, Cullingworth 514 Halifax Bus Station - Wainstalls via Hopwood Lane 524 Halifax Bus Station - Wainstalls via Ovendon, Illingworth 526 Halifax - Hunger Hill/Shelf via Ovendon, Queensbury 530 Halifax - Fountainhead via Pellon Lane 531 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station via Highroad Well 532 Halifax, Wards End - Halifax, Wards End via Scarr Bottom 533 (534) Halifax - Halifax via Northowram 536 (537) Halifax, Market Street - Huddersfield Bus Station via Stainland 546 Halifax - Halifax, Highroad Well via Warley 561 (562) Halifax - Halifax via Sowerby Bridge, Ripponden, Barkisland, Greetland 563 (563A) Halifax - Brighouse via Elland 574 Halifax - Halifax via Saville Park, King Cross, Sowerby Bridge 577 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station via Saville Park, Sowerby Bridge I can see them knocking the 514/524 on the head, they are always empty past sandbeds road, Most passengers use first as a direct route to mixenden |
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Post by deerfold on Aug 3, 2021 15:49:09 GMT 1
The folks at Team Pennine have obviously been busy, as the following applications have gone in for changes from 5th September: NEW services: 262 Huddersfield Bus Station - Kirkheaton C25 Halifax Bus Station - Trintity Academy SC1 Emley - Shelly College SC2 Thunder Bridge - Shelly College VARIATIONS (no more details for now - could just be minor timetable changes, or something bigger): 20 Halifax Wards End - Rye Lane via Pellon Lane 21 Halifax - Rye Lane 22 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station 321 (323, 324) Huddersfield - Meltham/Marten Nest via Netherton 343 Huddersfield - Halifax via West Vale, Greetland, Elland, BLackle, Lindley 435 (437, 437A, 436,436A) Holmfirth - Wakefield via New Mill, Shepley, Denby Dale, Skelmanthorpe, Clayton West 502 Halifax, Albion Street - Keighley Bus Station via Denholme, Cullingworth 514 Halifax Bus Station - Wainstalls via Hopwood Lane 524 Halifax Bus Station - Wainstalls via Ovendon, Illingworth 526 Halifax - Hunger Hill/Shelf via Ovendon, Queensbury 530 Halifax - Fountainhead via Pellon Lane 531 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station via Highroad Well 532 Halifax, Wards End - Halifax, Wards End via Scarr Bottom 533 (534) Halifax - Halifax via Northowram 536 (537) Halifax, Market Street - Huddersfield Bus Station via Stainland 546 Halifax - Halifax, Highroad Well via Warley 561 (562) Halifax - Halifax via Sowerby Bridge, Ripponden, Barkisland, Greetland 563 (563A) Halifax - Brighouse via Elland 574 Halifax - Halifax via Saville Park, King Cross, Sowerby Bridge 577 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station via Saville Park, Sowerby Bridge I can see them knocking the 514/524 on the head, they are always empty past sandbeds road, Most passengers use first as a direct route to mixenden Unless Metro cancel the contract, I can't see them giving up the 524. |
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Post by leeds rider on Aug 3, 2021 16:53:06 GMT 1
I can see them knocking the 514/524 on the head, they are always empty past sandbeds road, Most passengers use first as a direct route to mixenden Unless Metro cancel the contract, I can't see them giving up the 524. The 514/524 are definitely Variations, not Cancellations |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 3, 2021 16:58:17 GMT 1
I doubt they'll be anything major, they've only got one week's worth of data
They'll just be tidying up the timetables changing times and workings that made sense to Arriva but doesn't make sense to Transdev
Also probably detangling the Halifax rural services so the Merc's can be introduced on certain routes rather than appearing all over like Solos do now
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Post by andy1 on Aug 3, 2021 20:44:05 GMT 1
The vast majority are to do with the part closure and redevelopment of Halifax bus station .
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Post by leeds rider on Aug 6, 2021 8:38:11 GMT 1
The folks at Team Pennine have obviously been busy, as the following applications have gone in for changes from 5th September: NEW services: 262 Huddersfield Bus Station - Kirkheaton C25 Halifax Bus Station - Trintity Academy SC1 Emley - Shelly College SC2 Thunder Bridge - Shelly College VARIATIONS (no more details for now - could just be minor timetable changes, or something bigger): 20 Halifax Wards End - Rye Lane via Pellon Lane 21 Halifax - Rye Lane 22 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station 321 (323, 324) Huddersfield - Meltham/Marten Nest via Netherton 343 Huddersfield - Halifax via West Vale, Greetland, Elland, BLackle, Lindley 435 (437, 437A, 436,436A) Holmfirth - Wakefield via New Mill, Shepley, Denby Dale, Skelmanthorpe, Clayton West 502 Halifax, Albion Street - Keighley Bus Station via Denholme, Cullingworth 514 Halifax Bus Station - Wainstalls via Hopwood Lane 524 Halifax Bus Station - Wainstalls via Ovendon, Illingworth 526 Halifax - Hunger Hill/Shelf via Ovendon, Queensbury 530 Halifax - Fountainhead via Pellon Lane 531 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station via Highroad Well 532 Halifax, Wards End - Halifax, Wards End via Scarr Bottom 533 (534) Halifax - Halifax via Northowram 536 (537) Halifax, Market Street - Huddersfield Bus Station via Stainland 546 Halifax - Halifax, Highroad Well via Warley 561 (562) Halifax - Halifax via Sowerby Bridge, Ripponden, Barkisland, Greetland 563 (563A) Halifax - Brighouse via Elland 574 Halifax - Halifax via Saville Park, King Cross, Sowerby Bridge 577 Halifax Bus Station - Halifax Bus Station via Saville Park, Sowerby Bridge One wrinkle missed out here on first look is that the variation for 435 (437, 437A, 436,436A) appears to include a change to a single route number of X1. |
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Post by andy1 on Aug 6, 2021 21:21:07 GMT 1
Holmfirth Explorer X1 !
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 7, 2021 12:49:59 GMT 1
Has this been confirmed? I don't think it will be X1 it might just be shortened down to 35.The thing confirmed about this service is that there will be Optare Tempos running it. As far as I know, 1405 YJ09 EYG is not included in it and apparently may go back to Elland depot to serve the Halifax routes. My guess is 502. As service 502 is being ran by a Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 from Rochdale. 1719 - PO59 MLN is the vehicle that seems to be running it. 1719 and either a commander/cadet or a versa. |
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