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Post by joseph on Jun 13, 2021 8:32:27 GMT 1
First will be changing numerous services in Leeds/Bradford late June and in the rest of West Yorkshire early July. Also as noted elsewhere, Yorkshire Tiger will be taken over by Transdev Mid July, so it will be interesting to see if any services change from day one.
One of the Leeds services set for improvements is the 55, which will run half hourly throughout the day until just after the evening peak. At present, for those who don't know, this is hourly during peak times. I think there are also very small timetable changes to the 1, 65 and 75.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jun 14, 2021 18:14:00 GMT 1
In BRADFORD, timetables are largely unchanged, but there are some frequency changes from 28 June.
NOW POSTPONED
NEXT SERVICE CHANGE 4 JULY
NOTE the following details may have changed since originally posted:
* the early finish on some routes will continue as at present.
* 615 one trip at 14:45 will turn at Allerton Stoney Lane terminus and not serve Sandy Lane and Cottingley.
* 630/633 will increase to a half-hourly service throughout the daytime operation.
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Post by peteleeds on Jun 14, 2021 21:25:57 GMT 1
Looks like the 4/4f combined are been reduced to every 15 mins early evening then every 30 mins after 8pm. Alternating between the 4 and 4f
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Post by SF07 on Jun 15, 2021 19:04:06 GMT 1
Think we'll be seeing some changes and re-numbering to some Arriva services from 25 July (looks like the day Yorkshire Tiger will change to Team Pennine too). The 410/411 is going to be split with the Pontefract-Chequerfield section running as 135/136 and the Pontefract-Leeds section running as 140/140A/141. Also a new registration for an X80 service between Normanton and Leeds (possibly an express version of the 189), while the 446 and X41 have cancellations (although 446 is also included in the 444 registration). Several routes around Wakefield and Castleford also have route and timetable changes listed. PB0000582/134 Cancelled ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Castleford to Pontefract Service number: 411 (411, S11) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 Service replaced by 135/136 and 140/141 PB0000582/44 Cancelled ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Chequerfield to Leeds Service number: 410 (410, S10) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 Service replaced by 135/136 and 140/141 PB0000582/275 Registered ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Pontefract to Leeds Service number: 140 (141, 140, 140A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 New service PB0000582/274 Registered ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Pontefract to Chequerfield Service number: 135 (135, 136) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 New service www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/browse/results/?fields%5Bstatus%5D=&fields%5BacceptedDate%5D=2021-06-11&fields%5BtrafficAreas%5D%5B0%5D=B&security=57152cca8337f50b6c25ce97c523d83a-5d4dd03a168031aa8dd752c83c0cc8f4&form-actions%5Bsubmit%5D=&page=1&limit=100 |
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 15, 2021 19:10:18 GMT 1
Think we'll be seeing some changes and re-numbering to some Arriva services from 25 July (looks like the day Yorkshire Tiger will change to Team Pennine too). The 410/411 is going to be split with the Pontefract-Chequerfield section running as 135/136 and the Pontefract-Leeds section running as 140/140A/141. Also a new registration for an X80 service between Normanton and Leeds (possibly an express version of the 189), while the 446 and X41 have cancellations (although 446 is also included in the 444 registration). Several routes around Wakefield and Castleford also have route and timetable changes listed. PB0000582/134 Cancelled ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Castleford to Pontefract Service number: 411 (411, S11) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 Service replaced by 135/136 and 140/141 PB0000582/44 Cancelled ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Chequerfield to Leeds Service number: 410 (410, S10) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 Service replaced by 135/136 and 140/141 PB0000582/275 Registered ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Pontefract to Leeds Service number: 140 (141, 140, 140A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 New service PB0000582/274 Registered ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Pontefract to Chequerfield Service number: 135 (135, 136) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 New service www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/browse/results/?fields%5Bstatus%5D=&fields%5BacceptedDate%5D=2021-06-11&fields%5BtrafficAreas%5D%5B0%5D=B&security=57152cca8337f50b6c25ce97c523d83a-5d4dd03a168031aa8dd752c83c0cc8f4&form-actions%5Bsubmit%5D=&page=1&limit=100It also looks like 229 may become an express. I also see they are re-registering some of the school routes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 19:22:51 GMT 1
Think we'll be seeing some changes and re-numbering to some Arriva services from 25 July (looks like the day Yorkshire Tiger will change to Team Pennine too). The 410/411 is going to be split with the Pontefract-Chequerfield section running as 135/136 and the Pontefract-Leeds section running as 140/140A/141. Also a new registration for an X80 service between Normanton and Leeds (possibly an express version of the 189), while the 446 and X41 have cancellations (although 446 is also included in the 444 registration). Several routes around Wakefield and Castleford also have route and timetable changes listed. PB0000582/134 Cancelled ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Castleford to Pontefract Service number: 411 (411, S11) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 Service replaced by 135/136 and 140/141 PB0000582/44 Cancelled ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Chequerfield to Leeds Service number: 410 (410, S10) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 Service replaced by 135/136 and 140/141 PB0000582/275 Registered ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Pontefract to Leeds Service number: 140 (141, 140, 140A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 New service PB0000582/274 Registered ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Pontefract to Chequerfield Service number: 135 (135, 136) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 26 Jul 2021 New service www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/browse/results/?fields%5Bstatus%5D=&fields%5BacceptedDate%5D=2021-06-11&fields%5BtrafficAreas%5D%5B0%5D=B&security=57152cca8337f50b6c25ce97c523d83a-5d4dd03a168031aa8dd752c83c0cc8f4&form-actions%5Bsubmit%5D=&page=1&limit=100Thats going to be interesting. Wonder why this is happening? It'd be interesting to see if interworkings will be different? Notice 187/184 get timetable changes too wonder if this will interwork with either of these new services. Wasn't the 135/136 what it was used to be before it came the 411 at all? Also intrigued by the 3 variations of this 140a and 141, wonder how different that will be to the 140. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 20:10:56 GMT 1
Also noticed the 107, will now be apparently terminating at Kettlethorpe and not Hall Green? Does this mean All 110s will now go to Hall Green? It's indicasted on that page someone linked before
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 20:57:36 GMT 1
Also noticed the 107, 108,109 will now be apparently terminating at Kettlethorpe and not Hall Green? Does this mean All 110s will now go to Hall Green? It's indicasted on that page someone linked before If that's correct it will leave Crigglestone & Hall green with no evening service & no service at all on a Sunday unless thee 110 has more buses going to Hall Green. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 21:04:16 GMT 1
PB0000582/181 Registered
ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD
Route: Wakefield to Kettlethorpe
Service number: 107 (107, 108, 109)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jul 2021
Wait it looks like its the 107 terminating at Kettlethorpe and not 108 or 109 otherwise it would mention them?
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 15, 2021 21:48:41 GMT 1
Also noticed the 107, will now be apparently terminating at Kettlethorpe and not Hall Green? Does this mean All 110s will now go to Hall Green? It's indicasted on that page someone linked before 107 is the route that runs via one of the business parks down that end and runs via Westgate station (what was introduced as the 443a at the time) so may not be popular route for Hall Green residents. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 21:53:43 GMT 1
Also noticed the 107, will now be apparently terminating at Kettlethorpe and not Hall Green? Does this mean All 110s will now go to Hall Green? It's indicasted on that page someone linked before 107 is the route that runs via one of the business parks down that end and runs via Westgate station (what was introduced as the 443a at the time) so may not be popular route for Hall Green residents. 107 only runs 3 times a day in both directions at peak times both mornings and evenings. So I don't know whether cutting it to Kettlethorpe will be a huge impact or not |
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 15, 2021 21:58:33 GMT 1
107 is the route that runs via one of the business parks down that end and runs via Westgate station (what was introduced as the 443a at the time) so may not be popular route for Hall Green residents. 107 only runs 3 times a day in both directions at peak times both mornings and evenings. So I don't know whether cutting it to Kettlethorpe will be a huge impact or not it's mainly for those who work at Calder Grove business park that route similar to the 103A to Wakefield 41 and the 111's Wakefield 41 duties. |
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Post by joseph on Jun 16, 2021 7:41:29 GMT 1
107 only runs 3 times a day in both directions at peak times both mornings and evenings. So I don't know whether cutting it to Kettlethorpe will be a huge impact or not it's mainly for those who work at Calder Grove business park that route similar to the 103A to Wakefield 41 and the 111's Wakefield 41 duties. To be fair if the 110 replaces these routes, it'll drop off at Asda which is roughly a 15 minute walk from the business park for those coming from Hall Green. I bet the numbers travelling between Hall Green and the business park aren't high enough to make it profitable. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 16, 2021 8:03:45 GMT 1
it's mainly for those who work at Calder Grove business park that route similar to the 103A to Wakefield 41 and the 111's Wakefield 41 duties. To be fair if the 110 replaces these routes, it'll drop off at Asda which is roughly a 15 minute walk from the business park for those coming from Hall Green. I bet the numbers travelling between Hall Green and the business park aren't high enough to make it profitable. true but if it also depend on if the park are funding the route like the 111's two trips to Jct41 are funded even when it was a self-contained route (113 at the time) so it's a bit of a tricky one but doubt it'll be withdrawn given it also serves Wakefield Westgate too been a peak time route. |
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Post by dlspotter on Jun 16, 2021 9:50:04 GMT 1
it's mainly for those who work at Calder Grove business park that route similar to the 103A to Wakefield 41 and the 111's Wakefield 41 duties. To be fair if the 110 replaces these routes, it'll drop off at Asda which is roughly a 15 minute walk from the business park for those coming from Hall Green. I bet the numbers travelling between Hall Green and the business park aren't high enough to make it profitable. There isn't anyone travelling from Hall Green end to the Business Park because what entirely surprises me is that the AM peak journey runs FROM Wakefield and the PM peak TO Wakefield, I thought it would be a service for those that live in the Hall Green area |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 11:29:14 GMT 1
Another one I just noticed that looks to be changing
PB0000582/203 Registered
ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD
Route: Crofton to South Elmsall
Service number: 197 (197)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jul 2021
Looks like the 197 will be starting at Crofton now and not Ryhill
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jun 21, 2021 0:27:36 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on Jun 21, 2021 18:29:46 GMT 1
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Post by peteleeds on Jun 21, 2021 19:00:45 GMT 1
Latest rumour i seen is that ctplus are going to run 11/11a & x26/x27 on behalf of first for 6 months
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Post by deerfold on Jun 21, 2021 20:45:20 GMT 1
That's odd, as I posted this link on the 15th in the thread about Tiger being taken over. |
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 21, 2021 21:33:05 GMT 1
Latest rumour i seen is that ctplus are going to run 11/11a & x26/x27 on behalf of first for 6 months Confirmed for X26/27. Reckon it'll end up like the 64 & handed over permanently, which is a bit of a shame as the flexibility of First tickets are a big benefit. Obviously the passenger numbers aren't there though. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 21, 2021 21:47:09 GMT 1
Latest rumour i seen is that ctplus are going to run 11/11a & x26/x27 on behalf of first for 6 months Confirmed for X26/27. Reckon it'll end up like the 64 & handed over permanently, which is a bit of a shame as the flexibility of First tickets are a big benefit. Obviously the passenger numbers aren't there though. First still run 64 on evenings & Sundays, however, with X26/X27 I'm more inclined to agree that these could be more permanant. 11/11a could well be the same but who knows. It could well be temporarily to allow new staff to get fully trained as they have been doing big recruitment drives lately. |
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 21, 2021 22:16:44 GMT 1
Confirmed for X26/27. Reckon it'll end up like the 64 & handed over permanently, which is a bit of a shame as the flexibility of First tickets are a big benefit. Obviously the passenger numbers aren't there though. First still run 64 on evenings & Sundays, however, with X26/X27 I'm more inclined to agree that these could be more permanant. 11/11a could well be the same but who knows. It could well be temporarily to allow new staff to get fully trained as they have been doing big recruitment drives lately. The evening & weekend 64 is tendered hence they still run that. They started a similar partnership with Connexions which was eventually dropped, probably because the money wasn't there. |
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Post by leeds rider on Jun 21, 2021 22:31:25 GMT 1
That's odd, as I posted this link on the 15th in the thread about Tiger being taken over. Those are slightly different results - the one from the 13th is Arriva's submission of the registration, whereas the one today is the Licensing Agency's official acceptance of the registration. |
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Post by deerfold on Jun 22, 2021 9:48:15 GMT 1
That's odd, as I posted this link on the 15th in the thread about Tiger being taken over. Those are slightly different results - the one from the 13th is Arriva's submission of the registration, whereas the one today is the Licensing Agency's official acceptance of the registration. Yes, seems odd - especially when they both go through to the same link. |
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