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Post by sharksmith on Dec 26, 2020 11:03:00 GMT 1
And I bet today they'll be quite a few of the younger generation on here that'll either be up in arms because bus times is wrong today, or will believe everything is correct according to the bible of bus times. It's not good enough, totally not on, the end of the world when bus times is wrong lol. Thank god I'm no real fanatic of technology because at the end of the day, it's just another one of those unnecessary things put on this earth by people who are far too clever for their own good. Hmmm, seems a bit harsh I use bus times a lot, and considering how many vehicles there are out there it is much better than 99% accurate. It's fleet list sections do need to be taken with a pinch of salt but you can say the same for most online fleet list sites, producing which must be a thankless task! Compared to traditional published fleet lists however both tend to be more accurate as these are usually out of date days after they are printed, if not before. Coming back to bustimes, I'm in my sixth decade and it has changed my hobby for me. I can find the vehicles I still need to photograph so easily now, I can literally schedule my lunchtime to intercept a particular bus instead of hanging around Leeds city centre, guessing the route it might be on, hoping it will turn up, if it's out at all that day. This is so convenient locally, imagine how useful it can be if for instance I wanted to photograph the Merseyside PTE liveried bus in Liverpool. Even if I knew the Arriva Merseyside routes well enough to guess which route it might be on, it's still only a guess and the bus might be in the depot out of sight during my hundred mile round trip. I also like the map functions, I can see what's heading my way, I used it the other day to tell exactly when a couple of Arriva Yorkshire's new arrivals would arrive in Dewsbury and watched them approaching so I could get set for photos. Finally, even as a regular commuter before lockdown I could see if my bus home was arriving in Leeds on time. I could see it depart from home well over 90 minutes before I was due to finish work and if late, decide if I should work late or catch the train home instead. I agree that using bustimes to confidently report what is on the road is no substitute for physical sightings and should be discouraged, if it appears too unusual to be true it probably isn't true. As an aid to my hobby however it is the absolute number 1 resource available and it has changed the way I allocate my precious time. I still remember many years ago making around fifteen visits to Leeds before I finally photographed 69350 for the first time, that would not happen today. ***On my original point, things look to be tracking correctly today. Showing Leeds buses working on Bradford routes just as it should be.
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Post by Penfold on Dec 28, 2020 8:57:43 GMT 1
And most do not seem to realise its tracking the ticket machine which may have been moved between vehicles without being altered to identify the vehicle it is now in. This has been stated many times on here ! Penfold
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Post by kommie123 on Dec 28, 2020 9:17:09 GMT 1
Maybe it's someone new or someone who isn't a rabid follower of the forum. Manners!
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 7, 2021 20:46:07 GMT 1
Tetley's are the latest company that's now starting to gradually load motors on to bus times
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Post by SF07 on Jan 26, 2021 12:28:01 GMT 1
First Manchester has now appeared on the live map, which now means the 84/184 will be showing on the route to/from Huddersfield.
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Post by stephen01 on Feb 25, 2021 17:38:59 GMT 1
Ross Travel have now started track as of today 25.02.2021
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Post by dlspotter on Feb 25, 2021 19:00:15 GMT 1
Ross Travel have now started track as of today 25.02.2021 Just wondering, are buses tracking a result of them having a specific type of ticket machine? Also, if this is the case, does that mean RT now accept contactless payment?
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Post by stephen01 on Feb 25, 2021 19:27:56 GMT 1
Ross Travel have now started track as of today 25.02.2021 Just wondering, are buses tracking a result of them having a specific type of ticket machine? Also, if this is the case, does that mean RT now accept contactless payment? the last time i travelled on Ross Travel buses they still had the the previous Ticketer Model
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on May 26, 2021 13:42:31 GMT 1
Interesting update recently. Our driver numbers are now on bus times with the corresponding trips we have driven... odd not sure it should be on there.
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Post by martinsfp on May 26, 2021 16:12:18 GMT 1
Interesting update recently. Our driver numbers are now on bus times with the corresponding trips we have driven... odd not sure it should be on there. Worth contacting them about it. That’s personally identifiable information that can be tied to your identity and you haven’t opted into having published.
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Post by deerfold on May 26, 2021 21:37:26 GMT 1
Interesting update recently. Our driver numbers are now on bus times with the corresponding trips we have driven... odd not sure it should be on there. Worth contacting them about it. That’s personally identifiable information that can be tied to your identity and you haven’t opted into having published. Worth contacting their employer - Bustimes is just picking up the information they're publishing.
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Post by martinsfp on May 26, 2021 23:05:22 GMT 1
Worth contacting them about it. That’s personally identifiable information that can be tied to your identity and you haven’t opted into having published. Worth contacting their employer - Bustimes is just picking up the information they're publishing. True, but I can’t see why Bustimes would even have a field to publicly display that information. But yes their employer shouldn’t be sharing it.
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Post by kuyoyo on May 27, 2021 12:06:54 GMT 1
Interesting update recently. Our driver numbers are now on bus times with the corresponding trips we have driven... odd not sure it should be on there. Worth contacting them about it. That’s personally identifiable information that can be tied to your identity and you haven’t opted into having published. It's not personal driver numbers being shown. More rather, Arriva (and some Go Ahead group divisions - such as Go North East) are now showing duty numbers on Bus Times. Duty Numbers aren't personal information - indeed, tickets issued by Stagecoach include the driver's duty number in the information at the top.
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Post by martinsfp on May 27, 2021 18:34:33 GMT 1
Worth contacting them about it. That’s personally identifiable information that can be tied to your identity and you haven’t opted into having published. It's not personal driver numbers being shown. More rather, Arriva (and some Go Ahead group divisions - such as Go North East) are now showing duty numbers on Bus Times. Duty Numbers aren't personal information - indeed, tickets issued by Stagecoach include the driver's duty number in the information at the top. Ah, that makes much more sense!
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Post by Dom on May 28, 2021 0:35:30 GMT 1
Worth contacting them about it. That’s personally identifiable information that can be tied to your identity and you haven’t opted into having published. It's not personal driver numbers being shown. More rather, Arriva (and some Go Ahead group divisions - such as Go North East) are now showing duty numbers on Bus Times. Duty Numbers aren't personal information - indeed, tickets issued by Stagecoach include the driver's duty number in the information at the top. It did briefly show the driver number for some operators. First West Yorkshire been one of them, BusTimes have now changed it so if ‘block’ matches driver ref, it is not show .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 8:53:47 GMT 1
It appears the block number has been removed off Arriva on Bustimes as Arriva buses aren't displaying their Block Numbers/Duty Numbers anymore.
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 1, 2021 10:17:20 GMT 1
It appears the block number has been removed off Arriva on Bustimes as Arriva buses aren't displaying their Block Numbers/Duty Numbers anymore. It's been removed on all operators.
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Post by steve440 on Feb 24, 2024 10:33:36 GMT 1
First 33888 is tracking as a 503 this morning! How does that work? It was one day during the week as well.
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 24, 2024 11:51:12 GMT 1
First 33888 is tracking as a 503 this morning! How does that work? It was one day during the week as well. Its the ticket machine that is tracked so if its moved between vehicles without being reprogrammed it will still report its previous vehicle. One of Transdev Harrogates "Starbus" ex Nottingahm Scanias was a real Star the other week working a Skipton and Pateley at the same time if bustimes was to be believed.
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Post by steve440 on Feb 24, 2024 12:12:09 GMT 1
First 33888 is tracking as a 503 this morning! How does that work? It was one day during the week as well. Its the ticket machine that is tracked so if its moved between vehicles without being reprogrammed it will still report its previous vehicle. One of Transdev Harrogates "Starbus" ex Nottingahm Scanias was a real Star the other week working a Skipton and Pateley at the same time if bustimes was to be believed. What I am meaning is that the 503 no longer operates, being replaced by 501/X1
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Feb 24, 2024 15:07:06 GMT 1
Its the ticket machine that is tracked so if its moved between vehicles without being reprogrammed it will still report its previous vehicle. One of Transdev Harrogates "Starbus" ex Nottingahm Scanias was a real Star the other week working a Skipton and Pateley at the same time if bustimes was to be believed. What I am meaning is that the 503 no longer operates, being replaced by 501/X1 I would presume the driver just manually selected the wrong route in the ticket machine, as long as the fares are unchanged (& with £2 caps that is less of an issue) then the passengers won't notice but it does mean the bus won't track properly in RTI systems & the like - but BusTimes will as it is tracking the bus not just active bus routes. Old bus routes need to remain in the system otherwise you lose all the ticket sales data associated with it though they are normally switched to inactive soon after they stop being operational to stop drivers picking the wrong route.
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Post by steve440 on Feb 24, 2024 15:22:09 GMT 1
What I am meaning is that the 503 no longer operates, being replaced by 501/X1 I would presume the driver just manually selected the wrong route in the ticket machine, as long as the fares are unchanged (& with £2 caps that is less of an issue) then the passengers won't notice but it does mean the bus won't track properly in RTI systems & the like - but BusTimes will as it is tracking the bus not just active bus routes. Old bus routes need to remain in the system otherwise you lose all the ticket sales data associated with it though they are normally switched to inactive soon after they stop being operational to stop drivers picking the wrong route. It's just the one bus 33888 and it has been on showing 503 on Thursday, Friday & Saturday. Up until then it was OK showing X1.
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 24, 2024 20:47:05 GMT 1
I would presume the driver just manually selected the wrong route in the ticket machine, as long as the fares are unchanged (& with £2 caps that is less of an issue) then the passengers won't notice but it does mean the bus won't track properly in RTI systems & the like - but BusTimes will as it is tracking the bus not just active bus routes. Old bus routes need to remain in the system otherwise you lose all the ticket sales data associated with it though they are normally switched to inactive soon after they stop being operational to stop drivers picking the wrong route. It's just the one bus 33888 and it has been on showing 503 on Thursday, Friday & Saturday. Up until then it was OK showing X1. A simple case of the driver mis-selecting the route on the machine.
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Post by steve440 on Feb 24, 2024 22:22:49 GMT 1
It's just the one bus 33888 and it has been on showing 503 on Thursday, Friday & Saturday. Up until then it was OK showing X1. A simple case of the driver mis-selecting the route on the machine. Is it a coincidence then that it was the same bus and only that one bus on three days running?
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 24, 2024 23:16:44 GMT 1
A simple case of the driver mis-selecting the route on the machine. Is it a coincidence then that it was the same bus and only that one bus on three days running? Probably had a ticket machine swop which was programmed correctly for the bus but which has not been updated with the X1 on it.
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