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Post by SF07 on Sept 3, 2020 18:36:38 GMT 1
Greater Manchester Combined Authority have posted the documents for its next bus committee meeting, which lists changes for October 2020 in Greater Manchester. One change mentioned is a new X57 service, operated by Hulleys, running between Sheffield and Manchester, via Ladybower and Glossop before stopping at Hollingworth (Gun Inn) then non-stop into Manchester. Service will run every two hours on a daily basis with late evening journeys on a Friday and Saturday night. democracy.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/documents/s9325/Forthcoming%20Changes%20to%20Bus%20Network%20-%20Part%20A.pdf |
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Sept 13, 2020 21:48:46 GMT 1
Definitely ambitious for a route. Only thing to factor is The Manchester end, I know Hyde Road On the A57 can snarl up between Denton and City Centre, At all sorts of times. Maybe they can send it via Ashton new road, as it’s a non stop service. Also weather wise, snake pass A57 is a lovely road to drive on, though in winter can imagine that road won’t be open. Unless they can send it around A628, Stocksbridge and Oughtibridge. Where there is a familiar “57” service back to Sheffield it could follow  |
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Post by joseph on Dec 3, 2020 20:36:58 GMT 1
For a small independent bus company traditionally centred around Bakewell, they ain't half having a go at creating the worlds longest bus route lol. Major changes to the X57 on Sundays starting 6th December. Firstly, all journeys will serve Fairholmes, however Bamford will no longer be served. Now for the big one, journeys will continue as X71 to Chesterfield and Bakewell. So, on a Sunday, buses will run Bakewell, Chesterfield, Sheffield, Glossop, Manchester. HOWEVER, that's not quite the big one, during the Summer, some journeys will run as through workings beyond Bakewell to/from Hartington, with one journey running from Alton Towers, so yes that working will run Alton Towers, Hartington, Bakewell, Chesterfield, Sheffield, Glossop, Manchester! Reading this would make some people think it was April 1st lol.
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Post by deerfold on Dec 4, 2020 16:15:13 GMT 1
For a small independent bus company traditionally centred around Bakewell, they ain't half having a go at creating the worlds longest bus route lol. Major changes to the X57 on Sundays starting 6th December. Firstly, all journeys will serve Fairholmes, however Bamford will no longer be served. Now for the big one, journeys will continue as X71 to Chesterfield and Bakewell. So, on a Sunday, buses will run Bakewell, Chesterfield, Sheffield, Glossop, Manchester. HOWEVER, that's not quite the big one, during the Summer, some journeys will run as through workings beyond Bakewell to/from Hartington, with one journey running from Alton Towers, so yes that working will run Alton Towers, Hartington, Bakewell, Chesterfield, Sheffield, Glossop, Manchester! Reading this would make some people think it was April 1st lol. That sounds very like the X70/X71 from the early 70s - some journeys did Leicester to Manchester. |
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Post by joseph on Mar 10, 2021 19:04:11 GMT 1
Hulleys are expanding their network again in April and May with the following changes. Some time in April (can't remember when) the X70 will be extended on alternating journeys as follows: firstly, it will interwork with the 172 in Bakewell every 2 hours making it a through Chesterfield, Bakewell, Matlock service, and secondly the other X70 journeys will extend to Buxton every 2 hours giving through links from Chesterfield via Bakewell. In May, the X57 will extend to Manchester Airport, but the X56 (the sister to the X57) won't be returning. Other smaller changes are also happening in April/May, such as the 172 covering the 171 route, the 170 gaining evening and Sunday journeys, the X71 becoming a seasonal only bus for Alton Towers etc, and a 170 college journey each way between Chesterfield and Buxton via Bakewell replacing another operators service.
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Post by deerfold on Mar 10, 2021 20:57:19 GMT 1
Hulleys are expanding their network again in April and May with the following changes. Some time in April (can't remember when) the X70 will be extended on alternating journeys as follows: firstly, it will interwork with the 172 in Bakewell every 2 hours making it a through Chesterfield, Bakewell, Matlock service, and secondly the other X70 journeys will extend to Buxton every 2 hours giving through links from Chesterfield via Bakewell. In May, the X57 will extend to Manchester Airport, but the X56 is now withdrawn. Other smaller changes are also happening in April/May, such as the 172 covering the 171 route, the 170 gaining evening and Sunday journeys, the X71 becoming a seasonal only bus for Alton Towers etc, and a 170 college journey each way between Chesterfield and Buxton via Bakewell replacing another operators service. So the X56 is not coming back, rather than being withdrawn from May? Or does it come back briefly? |
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Post by joseph on Mar 10, 2021 21:07:04 GMT 1
Hulleys are expanding their network again in April and May with the following changes. Some time in April (can't remember when) the X70 will be extended on alternating journeys as follows: firstly, it will interwork with the 172 in Bakewell every 2 hours making it a through Chesterfield, Bakewell, Matlock service, and secondly the other X70 journeys will extend to Buxton every 2 hours giving through links from Chesterfield via Bakewell. In May, the X57 will extend to Manchester Airport, but the X56 is now withdrawn. Other smaller changes are also happening in April/May, such as the 172 covering the 171 route, the 170 gaining evening and Sunday journeys, the X71 becoming a seasonal only bus for Alton Towers etc, and a 170 college journey each way between Chesterfield and Buxton via Bakewell replacing another operators service. So the X56 is not coming back, rather than being withdrawn from May? Or does it come back briefly? I've re-worded it a bit so it makes more sense but just to clarify, the suspended X56 has been withdrawn due to lack of use. |
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Post by joseph on May 3, 2021 17:26:31 GMT 1
Times for the extended X57 now on the Derbyshire Council bus times pages, the first journey from Manchester Airport starts very early at 5.55am, so it's either a driver staying overnight in Manchester, or a very long journey with an early start for that driver from the depot at 5am. The same bus goes on to do an 8am 257 from Sheffield to Bakewell, arriving around half 9 in Bakewell. The first bus from Sheffield runs at 5.05am with a very tight turnaround at Manchester Airport for it's next journey back to Sheffield, only 5 minutes. God help both does drivers if they sleep in lol.
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Post by deerfold on May 3, 2021 21:59:49 GMT 1
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Post by joseph on May 11, 2021 18:49:45 GMT 1
If you think Metro are bad with mistakes, try this for size. SYPTE had a timetable for the X57 running via Trafford Centre before the Airport with what looked like totally made up times! It had the journey time to the Airport as an extra 20 minutes compared to the correct timetable. Hulleys have told SYPTE to correct this error, and I hope the owner gave it to them in his usual bluntness.
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Post by SF07 on May 12, 2021 21:49:21 GMT 1
If you think Metro are bad with mistakes, try this for size. SYPTE had a timetable for the X57 running via Trafford Centre before the Airport with what looked like totally made up times! It had the journey time to the Airport as an extra 20 minutes compared to the correct timetable. Hulleys have told SYPTE to correct this error, and I hope the owner gave it to them in his usual bluntness. Still showing on bustimes.org as going via Trafford Centre. Travel South Yorkshire website has it going direct to the airport. bustimes.org/services/x57-sheffield-glossop-manchester?date=2021-05-16www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/getmedia/f2d67882-db95-4de6-b12c-95994c9eacb5/X57-Hulleys-Sheffield-valid-from-16-May-2021.pdfDoes look like that the X57 route from Manchester city centre to the airport will be down Wilmslow Road through Fallowfield, which suggests that Hulleys are looking to capture the student market along with the airport travellers for people from Glossop and South Yorkshire. |
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Post by sharksmith on May 19, 2021 10:58:56 GMT 1
Hulleys have started tracking on Bustimes this week.
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Post by joseph on Jul 16, 2021 21:37:30 GMT 1
This will re-route into Hyde Bus Station from early September. Around the same time, Hulleys are at it again. They are launching yet another new express route this time from Ashbourne to Manchester via Leek and Macclesfield numbering it X1.
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Post by joseph on Nov 8, 2021 19:47:46 GMT 1
News circulating tonight that this route will be withdrawn from Jan 9th! Nothing official confirmed.
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Post by SF07 on Nov 10, 2021 18:58:12 GMT 1
Wouldn't surprise me if it was withdrawn, given the amount of changes the service has undergone over the last year or so, plus with the continuing driver shortages, a long-distance route with low number of passengers is a likely route to be scrapped in order to ensure that other services can be maintained. One of the problems has been too many changes to the service. Since the route started, the following changes have happened: - Numerous timetable changes
- Remove the Friday/Saturday night journeys
- Remove the Sunday re-routing via Bamford
- Scrap the X56 between Glossop and Manchester
- Withdraw the Sunday service
- Re-introduce the Sunday service
- Re-introduce the Friday/Saturday night journeys
- Extend the service to Manchester Airport
- Re-route the Monday-Saturday service via Hyde
- Extend the service to Airport Viewing Park
- Interwork with service X1 to Ashbourne
- Remove the interwork to/from Ashbourne
- Curtail the route to run between Sheffield and Manchester
- Reduce Sunday service
- Remove evening journeys
- Re-route Sunday service via Hyde
January 9th sounds like a plausible date to withdraw the service. Allow any potential passengers to use the service in the run-up to Christmas and during the Christmas/New Year period for shopping/socialising before withdrawing the service just after New Year. However, wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being withdrawn sooner. Will be a shame if it went, as it's a nice service. Did use it once in August and only had a few passengers heading from Manchester to Sheffield, picked up a few concessionary bus pass users in the Glossop area for heading into Glossop and then got a few passengers from Glossop to Sheffield. Coming back, only a couple of passengers heading back towards Manchester on the last service of the day (1730). Never really did enough to get passengers off the train and onto the bus and perhaps a bit like the CityZap Leeds-Manchester service a few years ago, any road closures when crossing the Pennines had a massive knock-on effect on reliability, with the X57 having to divert away from the Snake Pass and up towards Stocksbridge to get to/from Sheffield. Covid also another factor, given that the service launched just before a lockdown and then endured tier 3/4 restrictions around Christmas 2020 and then another lockdown in early 2021. Plus fewer people using public transport than pre-pandemic. But credit to Hulleys for giving it a go. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 20, 2021 12:43:30 GMT 1
As I was already considering going to Ashton to see the refurbished interchange in December, I am hoping to ride route X57 at least between Manchester & Glossop. I just have to think whether to ride the full route. I preferred to have done so when I had time by daylight to combine it with other rides further afield
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Post by SF07 on Nov 23, 2021 21:22:04 GMT 1
Confirmation on the Hulleys Facebook page that the X57 will be withdrawn after the last service on 8 January 2022
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Post by joseph on Nov 23, 2021 22:11:48 GMT 1
Crazy idea of sorts, but I wonder if South Pennine would be interested in a Spring to Autumn extension of the 351 from Glossop up to Ladybower, connecting with the 257 with through ticketing? Would defo be popular even with fare paying passengers as the current X57 is used well on Summer weekends, all sorts get it from students to pass holders.
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Post by deerfold on Nov 24, 2021 11:00:57 GMT 1
Crazy idea of sorts, but I wonder if South Pennine would be interested in a Spring to Autumn extension of the 351 from Glossop up to Ladybower, connecting with the 257 with through ticketing? Would defo be popular even with fare paying passengers as the current X57 is used well on Summer weekends, all sorts get it from students to pass holders. With luck Hulleys may have another go perhaps Summer weekends only when there are more drivers available. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 27, 2021 21:15:25 GMT 1
I hoped to catch the 11.30 X57 from Manchester to Glossop today. I arrived at least 20 minutes early but at 12.30 I gave up as it had still not turned up. This way I could still make other use of the afternoon.
Admittedly I heard there had been delays on the Snake Pass.
Oh well never mind, I guess riding it was not meant to be.
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Post by deerfold on Nov 27, 2021 21:46:00 GMT 1
I hoped to catch the 11.30 X57 from Manchester to Glossop today. I arrived at least 20 minutes early but at 12.30 I gave up as it had still not turned up. This way I could still make other use of the afternoon. Admittedly I heard there had been delays on the Snake Pass. Oh well never mind, I guess riding it was not meant to be. Snake Pass was closed all morning and into the afternoon. I am surprised Hulleys haven't posted anything on their facebook page about what was and wasn't running today. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 28, 2021 7:32:09 GMT 1
I hoped to catch the 11.30 X57 from Manchester to Glossop today. I arrived at least 20 minutes early but at 12.30 I gave up as it had still not turned up. This way I could still make other use of the afternoon. Admittedly I heard there had been delays on the Snake Pass. Oh well never mind, I guess riding it was not meant to be. Snake Pass was closed all morning and into the afternoon. I am surprised Hulleys haven't posted anything on their facebook page about what was and wasn't running today. OK thanks for letting me know. I still don't intend to try the route during its remaining weeks. I do slightly wish that I had used it in July as a detour on my way to Bradford. Oh well never mind. |
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Post by deerfold on Nov 28, 2021 10:53:48 GMT 1
Snake Pass was closed all morning and into the afternoon. I am surprised Hulleys haven't posted anything on their facebook page about what was and wasn't running today. OK thanks for letting me know. I still don't intend to try the route during its remaining weeks. I do slightly wish that I had used it in July as a detour on my way to Bradford. Oh well never mind. I had a fancy plan to use the late bus from Manchester to Sheffield then the overnight NX back to West Yorkshire and first train home that was rather scuppered when they withdrew it! I'm not close enough to use it without some planning! |
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Post by SF07 on Jan 6, 2022 22:33:51 GMT 1
Hulleys possibly hinting at a return of the X57 at some point after its withdrawal this weekend (last day of service is this Sunday - 9 January). Hulleys ran a summer service to Alton Towers, Scarborough and Skegness last summer, so may be possible Manchester is another destination in Spring/Summer 2022. 
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