500 keighley to todmorden

[zac1]

wasnt this originally known as the 589 until circa 1978
also for how long did keighley and district and first calderline run this route in conjunction with each other?
finally was the 500 shortened to Hebden Bridge in 2007 when K&D took over full time or was it after that?
sorry for the large number of posts but im in one of my research moods today!

[deerfold]

May 3, 2018 15:47:31 GMT 1 zac1 said:

wasnt this originally known as the 589 until circa 1978
also for how long did keighley and district and first calderline run this route in conjunction with each other?
finally was the 500 shortened to Hebden Bridge in 2007 when K&D took over full time or was it after that?
sorry for the large number of posts but im in one of my research moods today!

I've quite a lot of timetables for this route.
I'll have a look when I get home.

[zac1]

thankyou!

[Steve Macz403]

K and D and Yorkshire Rider/ First tan the route together in the 90s well into 2007. K and D took it over when they realised the 663 and 500 went the same way between Keighley and Oxenhope. So dropped the hourly 663 for an hourly 500 which did the full Hebden bridge runs more often. 500 , I think kept the Keighley to Oxenhope runs during evenings in place of a 663 . 664 and 665 still operating with their numbers until the Brontebus phase of recent.

If someone has better knowledge of the routes Correct me on this.

[deerfold]

These might be in a bit of a random order - they're not as handy as I thought.

At February 1969, Service 19 ran twice a day (2/3 times on a Saturday) between Keighley and Hebden Bridge. It was jointly run by Keighley-West Yorkshire and Todmorden JOC. It avoided central Haworth.

Times were:


Keighley 0905M-Sa  1115Su  1215Sa         1500Sa  1520Su  1612M-F
Oxenhope 0923      1133    1233   1248Sa  1518    1538    1630
HB       0945      1155           1311    1540    1600    1652

HB       1010M-Sa  1030Su  1215Sa          1405Sa  1505M-F  1630Su
Oxenhope 1034      1054    1239    1240Sa  1429    1529     1654
Keighley 1051      1111            1257    1446    1546     1711



There were short 18s to Oxenhope with a few continuing via Leeming to Denholme. Between all the 18s and 19s there was a roughly hourly service.

[zac1]

thankyou

[Bradford Traveller]

The 19 became the 589 after the 1970s renumbering, at the time operating from Todmorden depot only, so used Todmorden as a terminus for operating convenience.

It was relaunched as the 500 tourist bus, serving Oxenhope and Haworth railway stations. (bus 589 went along the main road via Haworth Brow, and did not serve Haworth or Oxenhope stations at the time).

Additional trips from Keighley depot didn't serve Todmorden.

[deerfold]

Found a few consecutive timetables:

In 1991 (May timetable) the 500 ran Hebden Bridge to Keighley.

HB station 1045 (K&D) 1145 (YR) 1345 (YR) 1645 (YR) taking 53 minutes to Keighley
Keighley 0944 (K&D) 1244 (YR) 1444 (YR) 1744 (YR) taking 46 minutes to HB station.

It ran Wednesdays and Saturdays throughout the year, Sundays 5/12/19 May, BHM 6 May, Daily 26 May - 29 September. The first bus of the day each way did not run on Sundays (but did on Bank Holidays).

From the April 19 1992 timetable) the 500 ran Keighley to Todmorden.

Todmorden bus station 1035 (K&D) 1135 (YR) 1335 (YR) 1635 (YR) taking 59 minutes to Keighley
Keighley 0935 (K&D) 1235 (YR) 1435 (YR) 1735 (YR) taking 55 minutes to Todmorden.

It ran Wednesdays and Saturdays throughout the year, Sundays 19/26 April, Daily 3 May - 27 September. The first bus of the day each way only ran Wednesday and Saturday until 23 May.

The April 11 1993 times are the same as in 1992.

It ran Wednesdays and Saturdays throughout the year, Sundays 11/18/25 April 2/9/16 May, BH 12 April, 3 May, Daily 24 May - 26 September. The first bus of the day now runs every day the rest of the service runs.

The April 03 April 1994 times are the same again.

It ran Wednesdays and Saturdays throughout the year, Sundays 3/10/17/24 April, 1/8/15/23 May, 2/9/16 October, BH 4 April, 2 May Daily 30 May - 25 September.

[ratty]

By 1979, when I started at Halifax, the Rochdale- Burnley via Tod had become the 589, can't for the life in me remember if the 500 became the 500 then or not. I left in July 1992 so cannot be sure thereafter. What I do know is that in the Summer of 1991,(or it could be 1990), I had the privilege of doing the 500 service all Summer Monday to Friday. The duty went something like this 1015 Halifax to Keighley, 1145 Keighley to HB, 1300 HB to Kei, 1530 Kei to HB, 1630 HB to Kei, 1730 Kei to HFX via HB. There was a K&D bus on early doors, but that from memory disappeared for a while and then did a trip in the afternoon, and was I think about 1700 from HB. Tod then ran the service on a Saturday and a Sunday, when I worked one of my days off on the 900, HB to Huddersfield. Lovely duty the 500, got my eggs from a Farm just out of Oxenhope, waited time at Oxenhope talking to Jack( who was the Old Gentleman on the KWVR Postcard), who lived in the now demolished Station House, and it was definitely 1hr 30 meal break in Keighley, and definitely finished back at Skircoat about 1840. The last stretch from HB was done a bit fast especially after the longqueue up to Haworth Cross Roads had held you up!!

[johnboy1948]

jusy reading back on the keighley todmorden service 500 when i was a driver at keighley depot 1973 1988 and a condutor 1970 1973 thesummer timetable worked{west torkshire rcc}on the school rota their was 4 driver and one conductor the route 500 work was 2 buses a day one morning one teatime the others was worked by todmordon depot {yorks rider]THE KEIGHLEY DEPOT always had a conductor on he was the schools conductor whom did south craven school yard duties and silsden bridge st am loadings it was a very scenic route from haworth to pecket well things have changed since then with a more hourly service keighley to hebden bridge
}on the Bs sevice times have changed i think has far has this service for the better

[dlspotter]

Just noticed this thread not seen it before, while First already serve between the two areas, I feel if the B3 extended to Todmorden as well as serving Hebden Bridge Station or Rosso 7 extended to Hebden Bridge Station it might make it easier for train connections? I use the 7 regularly and I am quite annoyed that I have to wait 40 minutes between train and bus at Todmorden because there are only two trains per hour and both timed quite poorly, I'd take First but then it's just paying for more and more tickets..
If the 7 served Hebden Bridge there are more trains through there from Leeds than that go to Todmorden so would have a shorter wait, however I do understand it's an 'in wildest dreams' scenario as there would be no demand to finance the route and given it's competed on I can't see why any council would subsidise it