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Post by Marcus on Apr 21, 2018 18:14:34 GMT 1
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Post by nic on Apr 22, 2018 16:11:45 GMT 1
Nice to have that link. Wonder what the timings will be - no doubt aimed at the day traffic.
What i really like is Transdev's ambition to make something of the Wharfdale area unlike First who seem to have completely given up.
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Post by peteleeds on Apr 22, 2018 16:27:39 GMT 1
Wonder what route they will take. Long way round if it's going round menston to pick up the existing 967 route
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Post by nic on Apr 22, 2018 17:43:19 GMT 1
Or they are advertising it and the 967 will link in to the 62 at Otley?
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Post by 69340 on Apr 22, 2018 17:49:20 GMT 1
967 is withdrawn
62 will partly replace 967 by serving Menston rail station Hourly after serving burley in whafedale, after Menston the 62 will continue to Otley then onto pool and leeds Bradford Airport
962 will also partly replace 967 around Menston village
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Post by northerner on Apr 22, 2018 19:21:52 GMT 1
967 is withdrawn 62 will partly replace 967 by serving Menston rail station Hourly after serving burley in whafedale, after Menston the 62 will continue to Otley then onto pool and leeds Bradford Airport 962 will also partly replace 967 around Menston village Will the 962 also divert from Burley or will it go in to Otley first? If it's diverting hopefully it will be roughly 30 mins apart from the 62 |
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Post by 69340 on Apr 23, 2018 15:15:33 GMT 1
967 is withdrawn 62 will partly replace 967 by serving Menston rail station Hourly after serving burley in whafedale, after Menston the 62 will continue to Otley then onto pool and leeds Bradford Airport 962 will also partly replace 967 around Menston village Will the 962 also divert from Burley or will it go in to Otley first? If it's diverting hopefully it will be roughly 30 mins apart from the 62 After 962 Serves Burley In Wharfedale it will then serve menston Village then serve West Busk Lane to Otley and the same Vice Versa it adds about 15 mins more journey time With 62 and 962 running hourly each combined they should make a half hour service through menston rail station |
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Post by northerner on Apr 23, 2018 18:32:58 GMT 1
That'll improve access to Menston station but not sure it's a good move for those who will experience a longer journey. Could the 33A not pick up the Menston-Otley section with the 962 running as present?
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Post by neukit on Apr 23, 2018 20:38:21 GMT 1
That'll improve access to Menston station but not sure it's a good move for those who will experience a longer journey. Could the 33A not pick up the Menston-Otley section with the 962 running as present? The 33A is a commercial service, whilst the 962 & 967 are tendered services. |
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Post by js12345678910 on Apr 23, 2018 21:01:31 GMT 1
Wonder if this will mean more buses are required during the day on the 62? It is currently a requirement of 4 buses on the route during the day. Before the Otley extension it was 3.
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Post by guyarab on Apr 23, 2018 21:52:13 GMT 1
Nice to have that link. Wonder what the timings will be - no doubt aimed at the day traffic. What i really like is Transdev's ambition to make something of the Wharfdale area unlike First who seem to have completely given up. Arriva is as bad as you think about First. Arriva occasionally start a new service and after about three months, finish it if it isn't making a profit. Trouble is Arriva rarely "sells" the service, simply expect people to know about it and use it. |
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Post by nic on Apr 23, 2018 22:29:18 GMT 1
I'd say them the 'big 3' are bad tbh. They have too much of monopoly over routes and know it.
My comparison however guy, is that first COULD have been a dominant force within wharfdale area and with correct investment successful. However they chose to retract to the X84 and 33A and that is now it.
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Post by northerner on Apr 24, 2018 21:35:01 GMT 1
That'll improve access to Menston station but not sure it's a good move for those who will experience a longer journey. Could the 33A not pick up the Menston-Otley section with the 962 running as present? The 33A is a commercial service, whilst the 962 & 967 are tendered services. That's my point, is there potential for Metro to save some of their budget? |
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Post by neukit on Apr 24, 2018 23:00:46 GMT 1
The 33A is a commercial service, whilst the 962 & 967 are tendered services. That's my point, is there potential for Metro to save some of their budget? They are, by replacing the two bus 967 contract with a one bus addition to the commercial 62. |
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Post by northerner on Apr 25, 2018 19:30:05 GMT 1
But does the 962 even need to serve Menston at all? Presumably the longer 962 route is the reason the 963 is being withdrawn as it will no longer fit in the cycle. Hopefully the 965 will extend to all journeys serving Newall so a 30 min frequency is maintained
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Post by SF07 on Apr 25, 2018 19:58:40 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on Apr 25, 2018 20:25:11 GMT 1
Will the 62 be running to the airport on a Sunday? I'm curious as to how the 62 is replacing any of the 963! "Running later into the evening" sounds good to me - as does going to Menston. Looking forward to seeing the exact route as currently I have to change to a 33 or get the train when I travel to Menston. |
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 25, 2018 21:06:42 GMT 1
I'm curious as to how the 62 is replacing any of the 963! They are getting a bit carried away with their news stories - its the 965 that replaces the 963. At least its a service they operate, on the York web site they are saying Reliance are taking over the 29, and the 30 which Reliance operates anyway. Are not the Wharfedale services still under the Metro tenders issued last year in which case Transdev have obviously come to some agreement with Metro re the 62 and 962 changes and presumably Metro are still paying for the 967 albeit now being the extended 62. |
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Post by peteleeds on May 1, 2018 18:12:36 GMT 1
Looks like 62 is only serving pool village at peak times
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Post by deerfold on May 10, 2018 17:38:01 GMT 1
Will the 62 be running to the airport on a Sunday? "Running later into the evening" sounds good to me - as does going to Menston. Looking forward to seeing the exact route as currently I have to change to a 33 or get the train when I travel to Menston. Turns out the 62 does run to the Airport on a Sunday, but does not link to any of the current 62, so may as well be a different route at these times. The same applies in an evening - technically it's true that it runs later - but if it doesn't link to the rest of the 62 it might as well still be the 967. |
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Post by neukit on May 10, 2018 22:16:42 GMT 1
Will the 62 be running to the airport on a Sunday? "Running later into the evening" sounds good to me - as does going to Menston. Looking forward to seeing the exact route as currently I have to change to a 33 or get the train when I travel to Menston. Turns out the 62 does run to the Airport on a Sunday, but does not link to any of the current 62, so may as well be a different route at these times. The same applies in an evening - technically it's true that it runs later - but if it doesn't link to the rest of the 62 it might as well still be the 967. The evening times remain largely as they are currently, probably because they are separate WYCA tenders. Therefore the ‘965’ Bus will still do the Otley-Pool short workings, although they’ll be short 62s rather than short 967s, whilst at the other end the Keighley-Ilkley journeys will continue to interworked with the 66s. Joining them up would require additional resources, which would kind of defeat the aim of making some savings from the WYCA budget. I think the Sunday timetables are unchanged, other than again becoming short 62s rather than 967s. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 10, 2018 22:20:48 GMT 1
Does this all look like a 1 Bus saving? Two Darts saved from the 967, with one full sized bus extra on the 62.
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Post by deerfold on May 10, 2018 22:49:57 GMT 1
The evening times remain largely as they are currently, probably because they are separate WYCA tenders. Therefore the ‘965’ Bus will still do the Otley-Pool short workings, although they’ll be short 62s rather than short 967s, whilst at the other end the Keighley-Ilkley journeys will continue to interworked with the 66s. Joining them up would require additional resources, which would kind of defeat the aim of making some savings from the WYCA budget. I think the Sunday timetables are unchanged, other than again becoming short 62s rather than 967s. I'm not saying they should join them up (though if you want an airport route to be useful for regular staff and occasional flyers it tends to need long hours of operation) but if they're not going to then why the spin about it running longer and to the Airport on Sundays? That won't benefit anyone on the main 62 route and isn't an improvement for anyone on the current 967 route. |
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Post by ianigsy on May 11, 2018 19:42:15 GMT 1
First arrival in service at the airport is 0859, which means that it's only really useful for flights departing after 1100. Running via Menston adds 10 minutes between Otley and Ilkley, so I may as well take the X84 10 minutes later when I'm going that way as I have a First monthly ticket for work. It may even turn out quicker at times to go from Otley to Keighley via the 62 and the train rather than the 62 all the way.
It's a nice idea, but really needs some earlier arrivals at the airport (which has always been a problem going back to when the 757 ran that way to Otley) otherwise it just looks like a way of saving some empty mileage between Otley and the depot in Keighley.
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Post by neukit on May 11, 2018 21:54:19 GMT 1
Does this all look like a 1 Bus saving? Two Darts saved from the 967, with one full sized bus extra on the 62. Yes, that’s correct. Therefore WYCA benefit as the financial support reduces. |
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