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Post by andyk4050 on May 15, 2016 17:39:41 GMT 1
Limewood on the 50/A service, not sure wether it's used but it's in there. Isn't the Limewood Approach Desti on the 16 not the 50/50A?
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Post by Steve Macz403 on May 15, 2016 18:17:12 GMT 1
Limewood on the 50/A service, not sure wether it's used but it's in there. Isn't the Limewood Approach Desti on the 16 not the 50/50A? The 16 has had Limewood App Journeys Historically. Even 2 early morning 16 weekday journeys still go along Coal Road to Whinmoor.
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Post by hudds1910 on May 15, 2016 22:11:14 GMT 1
Back in the 90s, buses on the 380/381 used to leave Brighouse showing Balmoral Avenue, which might have been confusing as those services didn't actually go there, in fact they used to change number into a 361 anywhere between Birkby and Huddersfield, fitting in with the 361s that had come from Brackenhall. There is no consistency with the things discussed in this thread, it's generally just continuing with what has always happened historically probably back to the days of the corporation buses. I quite like the old traditions being maintained. Also in the 90s the 548 used to run to Rastrick Sun Inn and display just Rastrick, the 549 was Nunnery Lane, which of course is also in Rastrick but didn't say as much! I have to take issue with the use of Brackenhall too. The name Brackenhall relates to the estate and as most of estate has now been demolished I'm not sure it still should be used. As someone who grew up round there, to me that area is Sheepridge and not Brackenhall, which was just the name of the sprawling council estate, which as I said, has almost all gone. If someone asked me where Brackenhall was I would just say it was the estate from Bradley Boulevard, Long Hill Road and it finished by Ashbrow Junior School. There is a Brackenhall Road but thats deffo not in Brackenhall. As for Balmoral Avenue, I always used to wonder where it was as a kid!! But this is historical is the use of Balmoral Avenue, it's always been, it is the connecting road between Beaumont Park and Crosland Moor, as pointed out by one poster. Other services in Huddersfield that show strange destination: 183 at least one runs short to Hoyle House Fold (Linthwaite) shows 'Hoyle House' on destinstion. 307 to Newsome shows 'Cross Lane' on destination and historically when it terminated at Blagden Lane/Edale Avenue it showed 'Blagden Farm' 321/3 Netherton shows 'Marten Nest' which is Marten Drive in Netherton. 327 to Sheepridge shows 'Bradley Boulevard' which is not in Bradley but a road in Sheepridge. 342 when operated by Yorkshire Tiger Sundays it said ' Hurst Knowle' which is a road in Almondbury. 385 used to say 'Abbey Road' which is in Fartown. 389 used to run to 'Tom Lane' which is in Crosland Moor.
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Post by basher37 on May 15, 2016 23:06:58 GMT 1
Is Raynville Road/Bramley Globe & Wortley Ringways still available?
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Post by whereami on May 16, 2016 6:04:23 GMT 1
I have to take issue with the use of Brackenhall too. The name Brackenhall relates to the estate and as most of estate has now been demolished I'm not sure it still should be used. As someone who grew up round there, to me that area is Sheepridge and not Brackenhall, which was just the name of the sprawling council estate, which as I said, has almost all gone. If someone asked me where Brackenhall was I would just say it was the estate from Bradley Boulevard, Long Hill Road and it finished by Ashbrow Junior School. There is a Brackenhall Road but thats deffo not in Brackenhall. As for Balmoral Avenue, I always used to wonder where it was as a kid!! But this is historical is the use of Balmoral Avenue, it's always been, it is the connecting road between Beaumont Park and Crosland Moor, as pointed out by one poster. Other services in Huddersfield that show strange destination: 183 at least one runs short to Hoyle House Fold (Linthwaite) shows 'Hoyle House' on destinstion. 307 to Newsome shows 'Cross Lane' on destination and historically when it terminated at Blagden Lane/Edale Avenue it showed 'Blagden Farm' 321/3 Netherton shows 'Marten Nest' which is Marten Drive in Netherton. 327 to Sheepridge shows 'Bradley Boulevard' which is not in Bradley but a road in Sheepridge. 342 when operated by Yorkshire Tiger Sundays it said ' Hurst Knowle' which is a road in Almondbury. 385 used to say 'Abbey Road' which is in Fartown. 389 used to run to 'Tom Lane' which is in Crosland Moor. The 342 operated by TLC, evenings and Sundays shows Hurst Knowle, Almondbury
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Post by chrisboy96 on May 16, 2016 12:05:21 GMT 1
Limewood on the 50/A service, not sure wether it's used but it's in there. Isn't the Limewood Approach Desti on the 16 not the 50/50A? It is on the 16's sorry.
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Post by tompb19 on May 27, 2016 17:54:16 GMT 1
Fearnville! I grew up in Leeds and have no idea.
Lucy Hall and Smiddles Lane have intrigued me in Bradford.
Commons and Norton Tower are mysterious places to me n all.
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Post by deerfold on May 27, 2016 18:02:38 GMT 1
Fearnville! I grew up in Leeds and have no idea. Lucy Hall and Smiddles Lane have intrigued me in Bradford. Commons and Norton Tower are mysterious places to me n all. I've been to all of them except Fearneville. I once had to direct a First Manchester driver to Commons. He was quite skeptical. I can imagine it being very confusing on the front of a bus in Leeds.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on May 27, 2016 19:27:56 GMT 1
Fearnville! I grew up in Leeds and have no idea. Lucy Hall and Smiddles Lane have intrigued me in Bradford. Commons and Norton Tower are mysterious places to me n all. I've been to all of them except Fearneville. I once had to direct a First Manchester driver to Commons. He was quite skeptical. I can imagine it being very confusing on the front of a bus in Leeds. Fearnville is a bit ambiguous, unless you think of Fearnville Leisure Centre as its a place. Luckily this appears on some old A-Z maps Brackenwoods a strange one, too. For many years as a kid, I wondered where the terminus was, seen it on many 3's along Chapeltown Road as a young kid. Until I had seen an A-Z with some street names on, and then sort of gave me an idea. Moortown, as this could range from the Terminus at Lingfield Circus, displayed on some of the 51/52/53/55 group. And then the Moortown Circular display on the 2 for many years Then 10/12/19 and now 12. Armed with a route timetable and an A-Z of Leeds. This gave me a clue as to where these buses went. Especially as a kid bus enthusiast in the 1990s.
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Post by resolution on May 27, 2016 21:30:17 GMT 1
Re "As for Balmoral Avenue, I always used to wonder where it was as a kid!! But this is historical is the use of Balmoral Avenue, it's always been, it is the connecting road between Beaumont Park and Crosland Moor, as pointed out by one poster."
It's stretching a point to say "it's always been". Balmoral Avenue is part of the post-war housing estate at Crosland Moor and was an authorised but unrealised trolleybus extension off route 60 (Crosland Hill) but in fact the only trolleybus to run there was towed; the Balmoral Avenue bus was introduced just over a year before the abandonment of the Crosland Hill trolley route in February 1964, from which date alternate buses ran to Crosland Hill or to Balmoral Avenue (Crosland Hill) as service 61. Since there is only one stop between Balmoral Avenue and Crosland Hill it was only a matter of time before the stub of the trolley route was itself abandoned in favour of Balmoral Avenue but no-one ever thought to ditch the name Balmoral Avenue once the 61 had become the only bus route through Crosland Moor. Given that there was for years a route 70 to Crosland Road (which is nowhere near either Crosland Moor or Crosland Hill) this has often caused confusion to visitors to the town. Technically Balmoral Avenue is all in Crosland Moor; it starts a couple of hundred yards short of Crosland Hill at one end and a similar distance from Beaumont Park at the other. The sensible name for the route would be Crosland Moor.
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Post by Kenton Schweppes on May 28, 2016 12:26:21 GMT 1
Re "As for Balmoral Avenue, I always used to wonder where it was as a kid!! But this is historical is the use of Balmoral Avenue, it's always been, it is the connecting road between Beaumont Park and Crosland Moor, as pointed out by one poster." It's stretching a point to say "it's always been". Balmoral Avenue is part of the post-war housing estate at Crosland Moor and was an authorised but unrealised trolleybus extension off route 60 (Crosland Hill) but in fact the only trolleybus to run there was towed; the Balmoral Avenue bus was introduced just over a year before the abandonment of the Crosland Hill trolley route in February 1964, from which date alternate buses ran to Crosland Hill or to Balmoral Avenue (Crosland Hill) as service 61. Since there is only one stop between Balmoral Avenue and Crosland Hill it was only a matter of time before the stub of the trolley route was itself abandoned in favour of Balmoral Avenue but no-one ever thought to ditch the name Balmoral Avenue once the 61 had become the only bus route through Crosland Moor. Given that there was for years a route 70 to Crosland Road (which is nowhere near either Crosland Moor or Crosland Hill) this has often caused confusion to visitors to the town. Technically Balmoral Avenue is all in Crosland Moor; it starts a couple of hundred yards short of Crosland Hill at one end and a similar distance from Beaumont Park at the other. The sensible name for the route would be Crosland Moor. Ok, maybe I should have put 'in my lifetime'......pedant.
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Post by stevieinselby on May 28, 2016 13:03:30 GMT 1
how abouts Arrive buses leaving Doncaster showing "Abbotts Road" Yes, I'd forgotten they used to do that! To be fair, they did then change them to " Selby Abbotts Road", which was a whole lot better.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 28, 2016 21:18:54 GMT 1
Not a destination as such, but I do find Bradford's
School Sports and Swimming
quite odd, when the swimming part is the secondary description despite 95% of the services that screen is used on probably being swimming rather than another sort of sport.
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Post by WYBS on May 28, 2016 21:58:10 GMT 1
Is Raynville Road/Bramley Globe & Wortley Ringways still available? I've seen Wortley Ringways on a few FWY 38's
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Post by resolution on May 28, 2016 23:42:35 GMT 1
Re "As for Balmoral Avenue, I always used to wonder where it was as a kid!! But this is historical is the use of Balmoral Avenue, it's always been, it is the connecting road between Beaumont Park and Crosland Moor, as pointed out by one poster." It's stretching a point to say "it's always been". Balmoral Avenue is part of the post-war housing estate at Crosland Moor and was an authorised but unrealised trolleybus extension off route 60 (Crosland Hill) but in fact the only trolleybus to run there was towed; the Balmoral Avenue bus was introduced just over a year before the abandonment of the Crosland Hill trolley route in February 1964, from which date alternate buses ran to Crosland Hill or to Balmoral Avenue (Crosland Hill) as service 61. Since there is only one stop between Balmoral Avenue and Crosland Hill it was only a matter of time before the stub of the trolley route was itself abandoned in favour of Balmoral Avenue but no-one ever thought to ditch the name Balmoral Avenue once the 61 had become the only bus route through Crosland Moor. Given that there was for years a route 70 to Crosland Road (which is nowhere near either Crosland Moor or Crosland Hill) this has often caused confusion to visitors to the town. Technically Balmoral Avenue is all in Crosland Moor; it starts a couple of hundred yards short of Crosland Hill at one end and a similar distance from Beaumont Park at the other. The sensible name for the route would be Crosland Moor. Ok, maybe I should have put 'in my lifetime'......pedant. Yes, maybe you should. It's well within my lifetime!
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Post by pontecarlo on Jun 2, 2016 10:54:18 GMT 1
A favourite of mine used to be my local 486 service when I lived in Kellington where the desi was Hut Green. Not a place, just a roundabout! Also the 24 in leeds to Beck Hill. Other favourite oddities of mine were the 105-6 in Wakefield to 'asda' you really had to know which one! And the 496 short lived minor extension to Priory Estate. Finally 479 Brackenhill which is a very tiny part of Ackworth
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Post by stevieinselby on Jun 2, 2016 11:46:11 GMT 1
A favourite of mine used to be my local 486 service when I lived in Kellington where the desi was Hut Green. Not a place, just a roundabout! Yes - I've always been mystified as to why Arriva are so insistent on using 'Hut Green' as the named point in the timetable - four stops are prefixed with 'Hut Green' and three with 'Whitley Bridge', but only one with 'Eggborough', despite that being the name of the village!
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Post by hudds1910 on Jun 7, 2016 19:46:49 GMT 1
Re "As for Balmoral Avenue, I always used to wonder where it was as a kid!! But this is historical is the use of Balmoral Avenue, it's always been, it is the connecting road between Beaumont Park and Crosland Moor, as pointed out by one poster." It's stretching a point to say "it's always been". Balmoral Avenue is part of the post-war housing estate at Crosland Moor and was an authorised but unrealised trolleybus extension off route 60 (Crosland Hill) but in fact the only trolleybus to run there was towed; the Balmoral Avenue bus was introduced just over a year before the abandonment of the Crosland Hill trolley route in February 1964, from which date alternate buses ran to Crosland Hill or to Balmoral Avenue (Crosland Hill) as service 61. Since there is only one stop between Balmoral Avenue and Crosland Hill it was only a matter of time before the stub of the trolley route was itself abandoned in favour of Balmoral Avenue but no-one ever thought to ditch the name Balmoral Avenue once the 61 had become the only bus route through Crosland Moor. Given that there was for years a route 70 to Crosland Road (which is nowhere near either Crosland Moor or Crosland Hill) this has often caused confusion to visitors to the town. Technically Balmoral Avenue is all in Crosland Moor; it starts a couple of hundred yards short of Crosland Hill at one end and a similar distance from Beaumont Park at the other. The sensible name for the route would be Crosland Moor. Ok, maybe I should have put 'in my lifetime'......pedant. The 371 still shows Crosland Road I forgot that. 370 just used to show Moor Hill Road too on rolller blinds. Now it shows Moor Hill Road/Lindley.
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Post by ianigsy on Jun 11, 2016 17:45:00 GMT 1
The termtime morning extensions of the X84 show as "Prince Henry's School" and "Skipton College" - the latter is actually Craven College but it's presumably a hamfisted attempt to tell you that it's a Skipton journey extended to the college campus.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jun 11, 2016 18:45:29 GMT 1
The termtime morning extensions of the X84 show as "Prince Henry's School" and "Skipton College" - the latter is actually Craven College but it's presumably a hamfisted attempt to tell you that it's a Skipton journey extended to the college campus. I see the Prince Henry's X84 journey leave Leeds around 7:45am when I head too work. the prince Henry's journeys been around for Years, seen it on an X84 timetable in the Rider years. I only knew where Prince Henry's school was, when I went to wharfedale Park and saw Prince Henry's Road off Farnley Lane.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 11, 2016 21:11:32 GMT 1
Around 7:30am in Leeds you will see Arriva buses showing 403 Selby College, 221 Spen Valley High School and 255 Whitcliffe Mount High School.
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Post by 112jct41 on Jun 11, 2016 22:38:37 GMT 1
Around 7:30am in Leeds you will see Arriva buses showing 403 Selby College, 221 Spen Valley High School and 255 Whitcliffe Mount High School. these are school bus services but public can travel on them as the terminate OUTSIDE the school grounds. The vehicle that Dewsbury use on 231 netherton to Horbury high school comes of the 0620 282 from fieldhead since the changes.
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Post by timelesstable on Jun 12, 2016 7:02:08 GMT 1
Around 7:30am in Leeds you will see Arriva buses showing 403 Selby College, 221 Spen Valley High School and 255 Whitcliffe Mount High School. Or for those who can get up even earlier their is a 446 to St Thomas a Becketts School at 6:58
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Post by deerfold on Jun 12, 2016 10:54:31 GMT 1
these are school bus services but public can travel on them as the terminate OUTSIDE the school grounds. The vehicle that Dewsbury use on 231 netherton to Horbury high school comes of the 0620 282 from fieldhead since the changes. The reason you can travel on them is because they are registered as public bus services, not because of where they terminate. There are plenty of buses that terminate outside schools which operate as closed contracts which you cannot travel on.
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Post by adam on Jun 12, 2016 10:55:13 GMT 1
The Thomas a Beckett should also display via Wakefield underneath, or the few I've seen have so they kinda make sense to an outsider. I never realised that to go into the grounds they had to be a private working and public buses had to stay outside.
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