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Post by resolution on Jun 21, 2016 16:39:43 GMT 1
Given that the stream which flows through Meltham drains into the Holme Valley at Honley it would appear to me that Meltham is, and always has been (at least since the last Ice Age) part of the Holme Valley. The river Mersey starts at Stockport, does that make Stockport part of Merseyside?. the river Clyde starts at Abington, South Lanarkshire, does that make it part of Greater Glasgow?, even the river Thames starts somewhere hundred's of miles west of London. However you choose to perceive things, it is a "fact" Meltham is NOT, nor ever has been in the Holme Valley. A total non sequitur of a response! No - Stockport is not in Merseyside, which is an estuarial location (the clue's in the name). Why should Abington be in Greater Glasgow? It is in the Clyde Valley, which is precisely the point. And the River Thames does indeed start over a hundred miles west of London. Stockport is in the valley of the Mersey, just as Abington is in the valley of the Clyde, Henley-on-Thames in the valley of - well, you work it out - and Meltham in the valley of the Holme. QED.
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Post by biroguy on Jun 21, 2016 17:00:05 GMT 1
In view of the fact First can never keep a branded bus on the right route anyway does it really matter where Meltham is in relation to the Holme Valley! Do we know when our Leeds City Transport heritage livery is to appear?
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Post by gooderson1 on Jun 21, 2016 18:25:57 GMT 1
One of the Holmfirth Connections buses was on a route out towards Hudderfield Royal Infirmary. You rightly stated that First cant keep a branded bus on the right route
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Post by driver6540 on Jun 21, 2016 21:56:11 GMT 1
The river Mersey starts at Stockport, does that make Stockport part of Merseyside?. the river Clyde starts at Abington, South Lanarkshire, does that make it part of Greater Glasgow?, even the river Thames starts somewhere hundred's of miles west of London. However you choose to perceive things, it is a "fact" Meltham is NOT, nor ever has been in the Holme Valley. A total non sequitur of a response! No - Stockport is not in Merseyside, which is an estuarial location (the clue's in the name). Why should Abington be in Greater Glasgow? It is in the Clyde Valley, which is precisely the point. And the River Thames does indeed start over a hundred miles west of London. Stockport is in the valley of the Mersey, just as Abington is in the valley of the Clyde, Henley-on-Thames in the valley of - well, you work it out - and Meltham in the valley of the Holme. QED. Furnish solid proof, that Meltham is in the Holme Valley and i'll willingly apologise and eat my words. However, i do feel this discussion should be moved to the Canteen section, as realistically our discussion has sod all to do with what colour First paints it's buses in.
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Post by kevg on Jun 24, 2016 20:04:11 GMT 1
Latest repaints at Hunslet Park are the aforementioned 30905 Halifax skylines and Huddersfield's 37299 in Holme Valley Connection livery complete with branding.
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Post by resolution on Jun 29, 2016 15:21:03 GMT 1
A total non sequitur of a response! No - Stockport is not in Merseyside, which is an estuarial location (the clue's in the name). Why should Abington be in Greater Glasgow? It is in the Clyde Valley, which is precisely the point. And the River Thames does indeed start over a hundred miles west of London. Stockport is in the valley of the Mersey, just as Abington is in the valley of the Clyde, Henley-on-Thames in the valley of - well, you work it out - and Meltham in the valley of the Holme. QED. Furnish solid proof, that Meltham is in the Holme Valley and i'll willingly apologise and eat my words. However, i do feel this discussion should be moved to the Canteen section, as realistically our discussion has sod all to do with what colour First paints it's buses in. You're quite right - we're getting well off topic! And I can't PROVE anything! However, you're wrong that this was about what COLOUR First paints its buses - it was about what it wrote on them. Now, if I, as someone who has lived in the Holme Valley for over 60 years, think Meltham is part of it I am hardly going to criticise First for thinking likewise and branding its buses accordingly.
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Post by driver6540 on Jun 29, 2016 22:26:40 GMT 1
Furnish solid proof, that Meltham is in the Holme Valley and i'll willingly apologise and eat my words. However, i do feel this discussion should be moved to the Canteen section, as realistically our discussion has sod all to do with what colour First paints it's buses in. You're quite right - we're getting well off topic! And I can't PROVE anything! However, you're wrong that this was about what COLOUR First paints its buses - it was about what it wrote on them. Now, if I, as someone who has lived in the Holme Valley for over 60 years, think Meltham is part of it I am hardly going to criticise First for thinking likewise and branding its buses accordingly. Positively my last words on the subject. My last remaining aunt on my late mothers side is 93yr's young, born and bred in Meltham and lived there all her life (surviving her two husbands) despite her old age and obvious age related physical disability's, she's sharp as a tack upstairs and has never deviated from the fact that "Melthamers" are seperate entity's from "Holme Valleyers", indeed often humourously referring to Holmfirth/Honley and other Holme Valley area resident's as "them odd un's from t'other side o'valley. Of course that itself doesn't prove catagorically that Meltham isn't in the Holme Valley, but not having any historical/geographical documents to hand, i'll take the easy way out and accept Auntie Dot's wisdom as fact. Maybe we can just agree to disagree. I'm not being over critical of First, as i'm a big fan of their's and appreciate the reliable regular services they provide, after all it's us as passengers who benefit from their inituatives such as "Holme Valley" branding, through ticketing etc, despite the contentious destinations displayed. To conclude, thanks for your responses and all the best to you resolution.
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Post by biroguy on Jun 29, 2016 23:27:35 GMT 1
Maybe we need to bury this Meltham/Holme Valley topic into a seperate thread now, it`s all getting a bit tiresome. Can we draw a line under this.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jun 30, 2016 13:53:19 GMT 1
Maybe we need to bury this Meltham/Holme Valley topic into a seperate thread now, it`s all getting a bit tiresome. Can we draw a line under this.
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Post by driver6540 on Jul 1, 2016 17:50:26 GMT 1
Maybe we need to bury this Meltham/Holme Valley topic into a seperate thread now, it`s all getting a bit tiresome. Can we draw a line under this. Yes!
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Post by kevg on Jul 1, 2016 20:13:44 GMT 1
Latest repaints at Hunslet Park are 32438 Leeds skylines, 37051 & 37052 Halifax skylines and 30562 from South Yorkshire is in for repaint out of Barbie livery for Huddersfield.
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Post by alex2302 on Jul 1, 2016 20:31:18 GMT 1
It the first ive herd about 30562. Is it a good bus?
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Post by sharksmith on Jul 1, 2016 21:25:10 GMT 1
It the first ive herd about 30562. Is it a good bus? Not from a passengers point of view it isn't, rode it from Rotherham to Wath earlier this year and it was one of the most uncomfortable rides I can remember for a long time, tied with 30565 coming back.
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Post by alex2302 on Jul 1, 2016 22:18:21 GMT 1
What 30565 is coming to huddersfield?
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Post by basher37 on Jul 1, 2016 23:31:33 GMT 1
No more heritage repainted?
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Post by WYBS on Jul 2, 2016 10:14:14 GMT 1
No more heritage repainted? It'll be another year before we get that! And it will probably end up staying at Hunslet and working on the X84!
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Post by chrisboy96 on Jul 4, 2016 16:36:53 GMT 1
35215 has gained pulse branding in a different guise to Hunslet Park.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jul 5, 2016 18:59:31 GMT 1
35215 has gained pulse branding in a different guise to Hunslet Park. 35202 has also gained branding too. Is the pulse branding slightly darker pink.
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Post by kevg on Jul 9, 2016 15:26:32 GMT 1
Latest repaints at Hunslet Park are 32431 & 69348 both for RTA repairs & have Leeds skylines. In at the moment are 30928 which may be for Huddersfield & 30561 from First South Yorkshire which is for Huddersfield.
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Post by jus363 on Jul 9, 2016 17:06:34 GMT 1
It's been reported elsewhere that 30561 is for halifax , I suppose we will have to wait and see!
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Post by kevg on Jul 9, 2016 17:22:10 GMT 1
It's been reported elsewhere that 30561 is for halifax , I suppose we will have to wait and see! Huddersfield has been mentioned here but it may end up being Halifax. See what skylines turn up for it.
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Post by simon on Jul 9, 2016 18:23:12 GMT 1
Picture on DepotCat 6 Flickr site showing it rubbed down awaiting paint at Hunslet. Says it's for Halifax.
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Post by pub146g on Jul 10, 2016 0:11:45 GMT 1
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Post by jus363 on Jul 14, 2016 23:57:44 GMT 1
30561 now at Halifax after its repaint ( with Halifax skylines )
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Post by driver6540 on Jul 20, 2016 21:48:05 GMT 1
Technically not a repaint but, Hudds 30847 has had its rear J32 advert removed. Looks kinda strange with its olympia livery and a barbie rear end exposed.
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