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Post by rwilkes on Jul 31, 2015 17:32:36 GMT 1
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Post by Burnside on Jul 31, 2015 19:24:08 GMT 1
16 minutes for the last 760 to get from Leeds Bus Station to the Headrow?
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Jul 31, 2015 19:43:48 GMT 1
I think it has something to do with bus station closing at 11.30pm although why not terminate at New York Street and start it later from there like early 757s do. It wouldn't be that long a wait (probably 12 mins taking into account traffic lights and slightly longer journey onto normal route at Eastgate) compared to a near 15 min wait on Headrow!
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Post by Dom on Aug 1, 2015 0:34:17 GMT 1
I think it has something to do with bus station closing at 11.30pm although why not terminate at New York Street and start it later from there like early 757s do. It wouldn't be that long a wait (probably 12 mins taking into account traffic lights and slightly longer journey onto normal route at Eastgate) compared to a near 15 min wait on Headrow! That would probably confuse drivers, being most of them are from the Keighley area, so probably won't know Leeds to well. A Gemini broke down at bottom of Eastgate once, and traffic back logged all way to vicar lane, I gettimg off the 760 at the Three Legs and the driver asked me for a diversion, so I said 'turn right onto Vicar Lane, then left onto New York Street then left outside bus station' 'he said, I'll end up in ****ing Wakefield!' lol |
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 1, 2015 6:43:49 GMT 1
I think it has something to do with bus station closing at 11.30pm although why not terminate at New York Street and start it later from there like early 757s do. It wouldn't be that long a wait (probably 12 mins taking into account traffic lights and slightly longer journey onto normal route at Eastgate) compared to a near 15 min wait on Headrow! That would probably confuse drivers, being most of them are from the Keighley area, so probably won't know Leeds to well. A Gemini broke down at bottom of Eastgate once, and traffic back logged all way to vicar lane, I gettimg off the 760 at the Three Legs and the driver asked me for a diversion, so I said 'turn right onto Vicar Lane, then left onto New York Street then left outside bus station' 'he said, I'll end up in ****ing Wakefield!' lol If what he was driving was something 15 years old plus he would be OK since just south of Wakefield is Barnsley where the he would find the entrance to the Bus end of life facilities.................................. |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 1, 2015 8:50:10 GMT 1
The later times do not apply Sunday evening.
Quick question. I remember Silsden Dradishaw Road as the "destination " of the old 712. But was this an extension to the original route. In other words when did buses start running on Dradishaw Road.
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Post by Burnside on Aug 1, 2015 20:41:31 GMT 1
They've used Dradishaw Road as long as I can remember.
The 762/765 used to run (from Keighley) via Kirkgate, Bolton Road, Bell Square, Bridge St, Skipton Rd, Woodside Rd, Dradishaw Rd, Skipton Rd, Bridge St, Bell Sq and Bolton Rd (towards Addingham), doing the loop in the same direction in reverse. At some point they were reriouted to serve Elliot Street when heading to Ilkley, presumably due to how tight Kirkgate is when cars are parked.
The 712 shows Silsden Bridge Street as it's destination, currently then becoming a 762 back to Keighley running at the same times as a 762 through from Ilkley. Transdev seem to have cottoned on that this is stupid as it looks like that short working is axed meaning the 712 must run empty back to Keighley.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 1, 2015 21:35:38 GMT 1
The new 760 timetable is actually a slight reduction, there is one less trip in both the AM & PM peaks.
I'm guessing these changes may end up with no PVR change.
I wonder if the increase on the 66 means the President duty will no longer be required.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 2, 2015 22:36:28 GMT 1
They've used Dradishaw Road as long as I can remember. The 762/765 used to run (from Keighley) via Kirkgate, Bolton Road, Bell Square, Bridge St, Skipton Rd, Woodside Rd, Dradishaw Rd, Skipton Rd, Bridge St, Bell Sq and Bolton Rd (towards Addingham), doing the loop in the same direction in reverse. At some point they were reriouted to serve Elliot Street when heading to Ilkley, presumably due to how tight Kirkgate is when cars are parked. The 712 shows Silsden Bridge Street as it's destination, currently then becoming a 762 back to Keighley running at the same times as a 762 through from Ilkley. Transdev seem to have cottoned on that this is stupid as it looks like that short working is axed meaning the 712 must run empty back to Keighley. Oh I was going back a bit to when the 712 was half-hourly and the 765 ran direct through Silsden. Bit before your time when this network started. It was 12 Haworth - Silsden going way back. |
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Post by deerfold on Aug 4, 2015 22:58:54 GMT 1
They've used Dradishaw Road as long as I can remember. The 762/765 used to run (from Keighley) via Kirkgate, Bolton Road, Bell Square, Bridge St, Skipton Rd, Woodside Rd, Dradishaw Rd, Skipton Rd, Bridge St, Bell Sq and Bolton Rd (towards Addingham), doing the loop in the same direction in reverse. At some point they were reriouted to serve Elliot Street when heading to Ilkley, presumably due to how tight Kirkgate is when cars are parked. The 712 shows Silsden Bridge Street as it's destination, currently then becoming a 762 back to Keighley running at the same times as a 762 through from Ilkley. Transdev seem to have cottoned on that this is stupid as it looks like that short working is axed meaning the 712 must run empty back to Keighley. It actually worked quite well as the 762 at that time goes up to the hospital and the 762 from the 712 overtook it - if you were on a pass you could get off and change and get back to Keighley quicker. A shame that the 0610 712 from Keighley has gone especially as it quite obviously still needs to get to Silsden to be the 0625 service - though I have been the only one on a double decker bus on that trip before now. Good to see I'm getting extra buses through the day but a shame for those between Keighley and Steeton that the number of buses is going from 6 an hour to 7 (plus the 903) but the biggest gap in the clockface timetable is going from 2 15 minute gaps to 1 20 minute and 1 15 minute gap (with 3 buses in 5 minutes between 15 and 20 minutes past the hour!). The Skipton buses certainly have been been busier of late. |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 6, 2015 17:31:12 GMT 1
There always is the problem when a 20-min service is overlaid on a half-hourly service. The only way to sort this would be to rewrite the entire 25 timetable. !!
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Post by deerfold on Aug 6, 2015 20:36:37 GMT 1
There always is the problem when a 20-min service is overlaid on a half-hourly service. The only way to sort this would be to rewrite the entire 25 timetable. !! Indeed. As it's not that long since the 25 went half-hourly I can't see that going every 20 minutes anytime soon. And unfortunately the 66s are usually busier than the 762s leaving Keighley. I can see the xx40 service to Skipton getting busy with shorter distance passengers. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Aug 6, 2015 22:39:14 GMT 1
There always is the problem when a 20-min service is overlaid on a half-hourly service. The only way to sort this would be to rewrite the entire 25 timetable. !! It is possible to run a 20-minute service along with two 30-minute services and not have (a) any buses running within 5 minutes of each other, and (b) any gaps of more than 15 minutes. Given that the 25 is the timetable with the most constraints, it would be easy enough to shift the 66 and 762 to fit the pattern around it. Example service pattern: 00 - 05 - 15 - 20 - 35 - 40 - 45 - 60 |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 6, 2015 22:45:14 GMT 1
I think the 762 times were adjusted to fit in with trains at Ilkley.
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