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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 21, 2015 19:17:55 GMT 1
just out of interest, routes are usually distinguished by three-figure service numbers in this area, but how many other ways?
a) * no display
b) the familiar two-numbers display still used in Leeds as many buses still had the old 2-digit display when numbers were changed in the 70s
c) two numbers + an optional letter eg 66A or J32
d) * coloured blinds
e) three numbers eg 101
f) 3 numbers + optional letter eg 268A
g) dashed eg 42-2
* not in use as far as I know
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Post by Dom on Jun 4, 2015 0:45:57 GMT 1
1-99 Leeds, except 46.
100 - 199 Wakefield
200 - 299 Dewsbury/Spen Valley
300 - 399 Huddersfield
400 - 499 Wakefield Area
500 - 599 Halifax & Calderdale
600 - 699 Bradford Area
700 - 799 Funded/Commercial Long Distance
800 - 899 Tourist Routes
900 - 999 Local Routes usuall short
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Post by deerfold on Jun 4, 2015 8:12:06 GMT 1
1-99 Leeds, except 46. 100 - 199 Wakefield 200 - 299 Dewsbury/Spen Valley 300 - 399 Huddersfield 400 - 499 Wakefield Area 500 - 599 Halifax & Calderdale 600 - 699 Bradford Area 700 - 799 Funded/Commercial Long Distance 800 - 899 Tourist Routes 900 - 999 Local Routes usuall short Whilst that's true (or was historically - 8xx routes were also used for minibus routes around West Yorkshire and 9xx and Nxx for Night routes, and 7xx for Keighley area routes) it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the question Bradford Traveller posed. |
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Post by deerfold on Jun 4, 2015 8:17:44 GMT 1
just out of interest, routes are usually distinguished by three-figure service numbers in this area, but how many other ways? a) * no display b) the familiar two-numbers display still used in Leeds as many buses still had the old 2-digit display when numbers were changed in the 70s c) two numbers + an optional letter eg 66A or J32 d) * coloured blinds e) three numbers eg 101 f) 3 numbers + optional letter eg 268A g) dashed eg 42-2 * not in use as far as I know In category c, as well as one-offs like the J32 there are also Letter + 1 number combinations which make it clear which areas the buses operate in. Most of these have now become 9xx routes, but Holmfirth's Hx routes and Todmorden's Tx routes remain - along with Elland's E routes - though it looks like they're reducing in number shortly (E8-> 564, E9 withdrawn). One you've not mentioned is Hebden Bridge which also has its unusual A,B,C,D and E routes (which also used to be Hx routes and when they changed initially went as far as I). |
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Jun 4, 2015 17:06:34 GMT 1
No display routes could include roadwork shuttle services as I'm sure some have been unnumbered and ran by taxi companies
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Post by Dom on Jul 8, 2015 15:36:32 GMT 1
Here's a little question for everyone!
What route numbers are used by the same operator, but in different city (/town), and run on completly different routes! Let see how many we can get!
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jul 8, 2015 16:20:05 GMT 1
Here's a little question for everyone! What route numbers are used by the same operator, but in different city (/town), and run on completly different routes! Let see how many we can get! Stagecoach 444 Wakefield - Leeds & Darton High - Roundhouse. |
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Post by Burnside on Jul 8, 2015 18:54:29 GMT 1
X11 Leeds to Pudsey and Parkhead to Huddersfield
80 Bramley - Old Farnley and Huddersfield to Clayton West
92 Kirkstall Brewery - Clarence Dock and Holmfirth to Barnsley
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Post by Jack on Jul 8, 2015 19:22:28 GMT 1
X11 Leeds to Pudsey and Parkhead to Huddersfield 80 Bramley - Old Farnley and Huddersfield to Clayton West 92 Kirkstall Brewery - Clarence Dock and Holmfirth to Barnsley Does the last one count? Sticking with Stagecoach Yorkshire: 44 Pogmoor circular, Rotherham - Chapeltown, Chesterfield - Sheffield. 43 Pogmoor circular, Chesterfield - Sheffield. |
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jul 8, 2015 19:22:58 GMT 1
X11 Leeds to Pudsey and Parkhead to Huddersfield 80 Bramley - Old Farnley and Huddersfield to Clayton West 92 Kirkstall Brewery - Clarence Dock and Holmfirth to Barnsley Only the 80 meet the criteria of the SAME OPERATORS though, unless Tiger were to take over the 90 from Holmfirth lol |
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Post by Dom on Jul 8, 2015 20:05:36 GMT 1
X11 Leeds to Pudsey and Parkhead to Huddersfield 80 Bramley - Old Farnley and Huddersfield to Clayton West 92 Kirkstall Brewery - Clarence Dock and Holmfirth to Barnsley Only the 80 meet the criteria of the SAME OPERATORS though, unless Tiger were to take over the 90 from Holmfirth lol X11 is currently a Geldards Route X14 on the other hand, and X7 |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 8, 2015 22:18:25 GMT 1
Transdev now operate two 845s but I'm not sure that counts.
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Post by stevieinselby on Aug 2, 2015 19:45:44 GMT 1
Here's a little question for everyone! What route numbers are used by the same operator, but in different city (/town), and run on completly different routes! Let see how many we can get! Arriva North East used to have two 29s, one running from Middlesbrough to Stokesley and one taking the scenic route from Darlington to Richmond, until the latter was taken over by Dales & District. In fact they still do have a duplicate – there's an X4 running from Middlesbrough to Loftus, and another from Newcastle to Blyth. |
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Aug 3, 2015 8:52:26 GMT 1
Here's a little question for everyone! What route numbers are used by the same operator, but in different city (/town), and run on completly different routes! Let see how many we can get! Stagecoach South have route 1's in most of the Towns they serve (at least Winchester, Basingstoke & Aldershot at the least & I think Worthing & Chichester as well), the Winchester one leading to one of the dafter ones where both Stagecoach & Bluestar have routes 1's heading down the same road but one is a town service and the other goes to Southampton (at one point Southampton had 3 route 7s all going to different places). Centrebus have 3 10's (2 from the same depot but serving different widely separated areas), 2 x 8s (Grantham-Loughborough & Corby-Kettering), 2 x 17s (Luton local & Melton local), 2 x 19s (Luton local & Nottingham-Oakham), 2 x 24s (Melton-Bingham/Bottesford & Grantham-Newark), 2 x 14s (Melton local & Grantham local), 2 x 33s (Market Harborough local & Bourne-Sleaford), 2 x 44s (Market Harborough local & Boston-Sleaford), 2 x 16s (Kettering-Raunds & Melton local) 37 (Sleaford local & Hannington-Northampton) & 34s (St Albans-Dunstable & Kettering-Wellingborough) & that doesn't include any from High Peak who have 1, 14, 60, 61 & 62 which duplicate Centrebus route numbers elsewhere. Grantham has 2 route 1s from different operators, Centrebus with the main town service & Stagecoach with the bus from Lincoln. |
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Post by Mal on Nov 4, 2015 23:55:58 GMT 1
I think this has to be the best (or worst?) How about Arriva in Chester? They have 3 routes from Chester Bus Exchange. They are 1 Chester - Wrexham, 1 Chester - Liverpool and 1 and 1A Chester - Blacon (local service)! The are all independent of each other with no interworking! Surely the best argument ever for re-numbering?
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Madder and white; probably the best livery in the world.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Nov 5, 2015 0:01:12 GMT 1
I think this has to be the best (or worst?) How about Arriva in Chester? They have 3 routes from Chester Bus Exchange. They are 1 Chester - Wrexham, 1 Chester - Liverpool and 1 and 1A Chester - Blacon (local service)! The are all independent of each other with no interworking! Surely the best argument ever for re-numbering? Mal Madder and white; probably the best livery in the world. Believe it's only 2 that serve the Bus Exchange - the Wrexham service serves Station and City Centre only. |
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Post by driver6540 on Nov 5, 2015 23:44:44 GMT 1
The 1 Chester-Wrexham is the Sapphire service isn't it?. Madder and white definitely the best livery in the world.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 7, 2015 21:44:58 GMT 1
The 1 Chester-Wrexham is the Sapphire service isn't it?. Madder and white definitely the best livery in the world. Yes, and IIRC it was the pioneering Arriva Sapphire route. |
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 8, 2015 19:28:35 GMT 1
Different operators but potentially confusing is Nottingham where both NCT and Kinch operate two completely different 9s over Trent Bridge and going back a good few years NCT and Barton had two completely different 14s over the same bridge. With no unified numbering system the logic behind TrentBartons naming of routes becomes a bit more obvious.
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Post by Mal on Nov 8, 2015 20:13:02 GMT 1
The 1 Chester-Wrexham is the Sapphire service isn't it?. Madder and white definitely the best livery in the world. Yes, and IIRC it was the pioneering Arriva Sapphire route. I forgot about the Wrexham route not serving the Bus Exchange. 'Madder and white' should tell you where I am from though I have lived in Liverpool for 43 years. |
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