SF07
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Post by SF07 on May 17, 2015 10:18:39 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on May 17, 2015 17:48:40 GMT 1
Not sure what you mean - surely from Wakefield you can get the 1015 (part), 1045 (full), 1115 (part) or 1145 (full) with buses a minute earlier from Cleckheaton to Wakefield. From Bradford there's only the 1015 and 1115.
What is false advertisement?
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Post by timelesstable on May 17, 2015 20:33:58 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on May 18, 2015 13:00:30 GMT 1
That's ridiculous. The 268 and 268A between then will be running over the 3 days. Nowhere does it claim that both will be running on all three days - and I doubt most customers would care.
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Post by gooderson1 on May 18, 2015 13:43:42 GMT 1
Does it really matter what routes run on which days. It is an excercise by Arriva to encourage people to use the bus rather than a car and should be praised. Perhaps the PC brigade would have been happier if three separate promotions giving details for each day.
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Post by FIYHANunDer on May 18, 2015 19:12:50 GMT 1
Just no pleasing some folk is there?? A company which is run by shareholders for profit is advertising a free service and someone finds some totally irrelevant point to complain about. Seriously, get a grip and have a word with yourself. If people have to pay for the return trip they are still getting half of their trip for free, think you are missing the point with regards to the 110 etc. Arriva are just publicising the 286/286A services. Maybe in the future they will do a similar thing with other routes. Obviously someone has done an internet course on Trading Standards Laws.......
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Post by gooderson1 on May 18, 2015 22:24:37 GMT 1
Here's a good idea. Make all the journeys free and get Metro to pay. Passengers will be happy but the ratepayers of West Yorkshire will be more than hacked off.
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Post by gooderson1 on May 18, 2015 22:25:19 GMT 1
And before anyone comments I am only joking
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Post by timelesstable on May 18, 2015 23:03:24 GMT 1
Here's a good idea. Make all the journeys free and get Metro to pay. Passengers will be happy but the ratepayers of West Yorkshire will be more than hacked off. Wasn't there a couple of attempts to move towards this when real buses ran on the streets of London....................................
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Post by guyarab on May 18, 2015 23:28:44 GMT 1
Whether it be regarded as false advertising or not, those wishing travel on Sunday or Monday from Bradford to Wakefield and return free get six minutes to enjoy the delights of Wakefield. Those travelling the full distance free from Wakefield can do so only one way.
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Post by timelesstable on May 19, 2015 9:38:39 GMT 1
It seems a brave decision to include the Saturday.
Will the timeframe of 10:00 to 12:00 really work would any bus prior to 12:00 have been a better option, better PR, just my opinion.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on May 19, 2015 10:21:05 GMT 1
That's ridiculous. The 268 and 268A between then will be running over the 3 days. Nowhere does it claim that both will be running on all three days - and I doubt most customers would care. The poster says free travel on 268 & 268A on Saturday 23, Sunday 24 & Monday 25 May. It's misleading and false advertisement as just after Easter Arriva advertised on all buses that on the two May Bank Holidays Sunday services will run. The 268 has not run on Saturdays & Sundays since the introduction of 268A. I'd suggest you look at the timetable then, as there are 268 journeys 7 days a week on the Metro, albeit none during the 1000-1200 period, unless the last am journey on the Saturday is late arriving into Bradford.
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Post by deerfold on May 19, 2015 13:22:57 GMT 1
I'd suggest you look at the timetable then, as there are 268 journeys 7 days a week on the Metro, albeit none during the 1000-1200 period, unless the last am journey on the Saturday is late arriving into Bradford. I have the timetable and on Saturdays & Sundays it's only 268A that runs, hence why on EVERY Bank Holiday Monday it's Sunday services unless stated otherwise. Is that different from the online timetable? www.arrivabus.co.uk/yorkshire/services/268---wakefield-to-bradford/?direction=inboundThat shows all journeys on Saturdays as 268 in one direction and 268A in the other. Even if it's wrong I don't think there's any point throwing a hissy fit and complaining about false advertising. All the journeys are possible. There may have been a minor error on the advertising.
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Post by deerfold on May 19, 2015 13:25:55 GMT 1
Whether it be regarded as false advertising or not, those wishing travel on Sunday or Monday from Bradford to Wakefield and return free get six minutes to enjoy the delights of Wakefield. Those travelling the full distance free from Wakefield can do so only one way. 6 minutes sounds enough to me.
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Post by guyarab on May 19, 2015 14:14:39 GMT 1
Whether it be regarded as false advertising or not, those wishing travel on Sunday or Monday from Bradford to Wakefield and return free get six minutes to enjoy the delights of Wakefield. Those travelling the full distance free from Wakefield can do so only one way. 6 minutes sounds enough to me. No disagreement from me with that statement - especially on a Sunday.
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Post by kendall17 on May 19, 2015 22:23:20 GMT 1
Just no pleasing some folk is there?? A company which is run by shareholders for profit is advertising a free service and someone finds some totally irrelevant point to complain about. Seriously, get a grip and have a word with yourself. If people have to pay for the return trip they are still getting half of their trip for free, think you are missing the point with regards to the 110 etc. Arriva are just publicising the 286/286A services. Maybe in the future they will do a similar thing with other routes. Obviously someone has done an internet course on Trading Standards Laws....... Look I've picked up a knack for things to be in detail as I've spent a short spell at a solicitors until a few months ago plus I've a family friend based at Dewsbury and my Granddad has worked at Heckmondwike years ago. I've worked in an accountancy firm for 8 years of my life, I didn't feel the need to board a number 1 bus recently that was terminating at Bishopgate Street and let the driver know that his destination said City Square... Stop being picky. Get on with life.
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Post by timelesstable on May 20, 2015 7:09:54 GMT 1
Whether it be regarded as false advertising or not, those wishing travel on Sunday or Monday from Bradford to Wakefield and return free get six minutes to enjoy the delights of Wakefield. Those travelling the full distance free from Wakefield can do so only one way. 6 minutes sounds enough to me. With a bit of planning the six minutes could be stretched to circa 10 minutes by alighting at the top of Westgate and returning there to catch the returning bus.
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Post by jdodger08 on May 20, 2015 10:16:02 GMT 1
Does it matter? Its free travel, you all didn't complain about the 163/6 being free for Halloween so why is this different?
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Post by guyarab on May 20, 2015 14:01:02 GMT 1
Does it matter? Its free travel, you all didn't complain about the 163/6 being free for Halloween so why is this different? Eh? Didn't know it was, otherwise I may have done so!
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 20, 2015 20:53:50 GMT 1
I hope nobody from Arriva has read this thread or else they will wonder why they bother. Of course you have to pay on the way back that's why its an 'offer' not a free for all. Why is it 3 for 2 in Tesco not just pick up everything for free?
Its also set back the opinion operators have of enthusiasts as well.
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Post by guyarab on May 20, 2015 22:18:21 GMT 1
I hope nobody from Arriva has read this thread or else they will wonder why they bother. Of course you have to pay on the way back that's why its an 'offer' not a free for all. Why is it 3 for 2 in Tesco not just pick up everything for free? Its also set back the opinion operators have of enthusiasts as well. Perhaps Arriva should read the comments on here. The offer is "free bus travel to & from Wakefield this Spring Bank Holiday from Bradford, Heckmondwike, Dewsbury & Ossett on 268 & 268A simply hop on board between 10am - 12 noon Sat 23 Mon 25 May and pay nothing to travel". It does not say you have to pay on the way back. The opinion of operators of enthusiasts will not change about those commenting adversely, or in a positive manner about this offer.
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Post by timelesstable on May 21, 2015 6:57:58 GMT 1
I hope nobody from Arriva has read this thread or else they will wonder why they bother. Of course you have to pay on the way back that's why its an 'offer' not a free for all. Why is it 3 for 2 in Tesco not just pick up everything for free? Its also set back the opinion operators have of enthusiasts as well. I cannot see why any major operator would be too worried about the what the local enthusiasts have to say on here. Social media yes but hardly this forum. Hardly a reprehensive sample of the travelling public, just imagine if the election pollsters had used this forum to sample the results of the election, best battle bus wins, yes
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Post by whereami on May 21, 2015 9:56:34 GMT 1
Well, looks like I've missed a good argument about this promotion!!!! And, it's a new member who is complaining about it the most. Right, as most of you know, I'm the resident Hecky employee and yes, we think it's silly, just as you all point out the same reasons, that we have. So, I'll try to clarify a few things, the free travel is over the entire route, which means, wherever you get on and go to on the 268A, during those 2 hours, you'll travel free, yes, some people will have to pay for their return journey, but, if they would normally have bought a day ticket, they've now saved themselves a minimum £1.50, by paying a single fare. The OAP/ Disabled pass holders will still have to scan their passes on the machine, everybody else, will just be registered as travelling via an extra button on the machine. And on Saturday (at least), there'll be some spare drivers with vehicles, to do a Dewsbury - Wakefield dupes. Obviously, everybody likes something for nowt, and I doubt this promotion will be extended to any of the 110, 202/203 or 415 services, as, they've not been extended to serve any other areas, if you get my meaning ?.
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Post by guyarab on May 22, 2015 8:33:43 GMT 1
That's ridiculous. The 268 and 268A between then will be running over the 3 days. Nowhere does it claim that both will be running on all three days - and I doubt most customers would care. The poster says free travel on 268 & 268A on Saturday 23, Sunday 24 & Monday 25 May. It's misleading and false advertisement as just after Easter Arriva advertised on all buses that on the two May Bank Holidays Sunday services will run. The 268 has not run on Saturdays & Sundays since the introduction of 268A. What's misleading is Arriva's stupid idea to stick on the 'A' suffix for the extension to Wakefield; that makes no sense at all and still confuses people today. Only on Tuesday I was asked if the 268A went to Dewsbury. The 268A only shows the ultimate destination (in giant letters) and therefore would-be passengers are uncertain. This uncertainty could turn people away. For the journey from Wakefield, the suffix is totally unnecessary as the buses generally run to Bradford anyway (M-S) excluding those terminating short at the end of their working day. Yes I know, I've pointed this out before and to a limited audience, but Arriva seem not to like criticism and are reluctant to reply to negative comments.
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Post by guyarab on May 22, 2015 23:14:10 GMT 1
What's misleading is Arriva's stupid idea to stick on the 'A' suffix for the extension to Wakefield; that makes no sense at all and still confuses people today. Only on Tuesday I was asked if the 268A went to Dewsbury. The 268A only shows the ultimate destination (in giant letters) and therefore would-be passengers are uncertain. This uncertainty could turn people away. For the journey from Wakefield, the suffix is totally unnecessary as the buses generally run to Bradford anyway (M-S) excluding those terminating short at the end of their working day. Yes I know, I've pointed this out before and to a limited audience, but Arriva seem not to like criticism and are reluctant to reply to negative comments. I know. Last Friday I got the 17:00 from Wakefield and it displayed 268 Heckmondwike via Oakenshaw & Cleckheaton! It would have made sense to bring back the old 269 or just left things they were. I totally agree.
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