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Post by Craig on Dec 4, 2014 23:59:44 GMT 1
What do you think of First's Hyperlink fleet? Please answer the poll and add your comments/reasons for your answer below.
Thought it would be interesting to take a straw poll on these rather divisive buses.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 5, 2014 1:06:33 GMT 1
is it the way it's operateed? The dwell time at stops is as long as paye buses & entry is forbidden at the rear entrance (as I discovered as I tried to get on there on my return from continental Europe!)
I've been on a similar bus in Nantes, where it runs as the "fourth tram service" with a segregated lane along the middle of the road (don't think it's a guided bus) & runs straight across the middle of roundabouts!
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Dec 5, 2014 21:14:54 GMT 1
reliablity wise they have a similar reliability when they were FTR's on the number 4. The inclusion of Wifi is a plus, something the FTR's didnt have.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 21:45:59 GMT 1
Usually unlike route 4 I've always waited a very short time for one up at Eastgate. Coming back might be a different story up at Bradford Interchange at times but still didn't have to wait that long for one. However the only problem I've seen is the reliability in the vehicles, one was breaking down whereas one I was on kept stalling whenever it stopped unless that was the driver's doing by turning the engine off. All in all I think the service is great despite me thinking the 72 route would be totally wrong for 'bendy-buses' let alone StreetCars, I was proven wrong I think.
Michael Windle
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Post by Craig on Feb 19, 2015 22:28:32 GMT 1
Some slightly interesting results here.
Of those that state they don't regularly use service 72 and its Streetcars, 71% do not like the buses for whatever reason.
However, of those that do use the service often, the result swings the other way with over half (58%) giving a positive response.
Interestingly when I set this poll up I expected that the majority of negative responses would be from those who do use the service. This is because I have only used the service a handful of times and find it awful on many levels, so could only assume a regular user would hate it more (but this is why I decided to poll it). Also as a car user living close to the route I find the vehicles frustrating for their problems and the space they occupy on the road.
Perhaps if I were to use the service regularly I would start to see the positive aspects of their operation, though it is perhaps a little disconcerting (for First) that non-users appear to be put off by their operation which would hardly seem to encourage new users.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Feb 19, 2015 23:42:57 GMT 1
Some slightly interesting results here. Of those that state they don't regularly use service 72 and its Streetcars, 71% do not like the buses for whatever reason. However, of those that do use the service often, the result swings the other way with over half (58%) giving a positive response. Interestingly when I set this poll up I expected that the majority of negative responses would be from those who do use the service. This is because I have only used the service a handful of times and find it awful on many levels, so could only assume a regular user would hate it more (but this is why I decided to poll it). Also as a car user living close to the route I find the vehicles frustrating for their problems and the space they occupy on the road. Perhaps if I were to use the service regularly I would start to see the positive aspects of their operation, though it is perhaps a little disconcerting (for First) that non-users appear to be put off by their operation which would hardly seem to encourage new users. I used the Hyperlink 72 service from Leeds - New Pudsey around xmas, I did find the service quick and reliable. But then this is like other buses. One time a service can have a good day. Another time it can have a bad day. I could say the same when I was using the streetcars everyday when they were on the 4. I get a 7:30am 49 bus from my stop to work on weekdays. 25% I've missed it ,as its come early. 25% comes late. The other 50 it's stuck to time and reliability. A route like the 72, could benefit from such a bus, but even the controversial new "routemaster" trailed could be a perfect candidate to replace the streetcars, once they get old. |
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Post by scania60065 on Feb 20, 2015 21:55:23 GMT 1
Some slightly interesting results here. Of those that state they don't regularly use service 72 and its Streetcars, 71% do not like the buses for whatever reason. However, of those that do use the service often, the result swings the other way with over half (58%) giving a positive response. Interestingly when I set this poll up I expected that the majority of negative responses would be from those who do use the service. This is because I have only used the service a handful of times and find it awful on many levels, so could only assume a regular user would hate it more (but this is why I decided to poll it). Also as a car user living close to the route I find the vehicles frustrating for their problems and the space they occupy on the road. Perhaps if I were to use the service regularly I would start to see the positive aspects of their operation, though it is perhaps a little disconcerting (for First) that non-users appear to be put off by their operation which would hardly seem to encourage new users. I used the Hyperlink 72 service from Leeds - New Pudsey around xmas, I did find the service quick and reliable. But then this is like other buses. One time a service can have a good day. Another time it can have a bad day. I could say the same when I was using the streetcars everyday when they were on the 4. I get a 7:30am 49 bus from my stop to work on weekdays. 25% I've missed it ,as its come early. 25% comes late. The other 50 it's stuck to time and reliability. A route like the 72, could benefit from such a bus, but even the controversial new "routemaster" trailed could be a perfect candidate to replace the streetcars, once they get old. There be sent to scrap soon can't imagine them living past 10years old n some of them already 9yrs old |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 0:35:49 GMT 1
I used the Hyperlink 72 service from Leeds - New Pudsey around xmas, I did find the service quick and reliable. But then this is like other buses. One time a service can have a good day. Another time it can have a bad day. I could say the same when I was using the streetcars everyday when they were on the 4. I get a 7:30am 49 bus from my stop to work on weekdays. 25% I've missed it ,as its come early. 25% comes late. The other 50 it's stuck to time and reliability. A route like the 72, could benefit from such a bus, but even the controversial new "routemaster" trailed could be a perfect candidate to replace the streetcars, once they get old. There be sent to scrap soon can't imagine them living past 10years old n some of them already 9yrs old I'd love to see what eventually will replace these once they do get withdrawn, new Routemasters, more artics or just standard spec buses. Michael Windle |
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Post by gooderson1 on Feb 21, 2015 8:54:41 GMT 1
One of these vehicles was parked outside a hotel on the road to Denby Dale just off J39 of the M1 yesterday morning at 0815. The was a very large wrecker with in the process of hooking it up. It was also devoid of any branding.
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Post by michael1971 on Feb 21, 2015 14:29:34 GMT 1
One of these vehicles was parked outside a hotel on the road to Denby Dale just off J39 of the M1 yesterday morning at 0815. The was a very large wrecker with in the process of hooking it up. It was also devoid of any branding. could have been 19012 or 19014 as those 2 are withdrawn stock |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 16:05:19 GMT 1
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Post by ricardoat4 on Jul 2, 2015 7:55:37 GMT 1
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jul 2, 2015 8:59:00 GMT 1
Swansea are getting rid, due to the 'Track' through the City Centre being made 1 way, after fatalities when pedestrians haven't looked both ways, as they hadn't realised that buses ran both directions (the normal road alongside is already 1 way), and the alternative route they would need to observe would be tight for the StreetCars. If anything, if all the StreetCars were to be concentrated in Yorkshire (as I believe the 1 on loan to Go Ahead at Luton could also be returning) the 72 may be extended, or another route converted. |
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Post by biroguy on Jul 2, 2015 9:27:03 GMT 1
The Swansea fleet was supposed to come to Yorkshire eventually, Route 1 would be a good candidate.
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Post by ricardoat4 on Aug 6, 2015 17:30:00 GMT 1
I hear that Sundays the 72 is going to double deck operation. Beginning of the end for the ftrs??
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Post by FIYHANunDer on Aug 6, 2015 17:52:39 GMT 1
I hear that Sundays the 72 is going to double deck operation. Beginning of the end for the ftrs?? Cheaper for First to operate deckers as no need for a host, also newer deckers will be more economical etc. Also gives the bendies a rest and engineering time to fix them. Win win. |
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Post by Dom on Aug 6, 2015 17:56:53 GMT 1
I hear that Sundays the 72 is going to double deck operation. Beginning of the end for the ftrs?? From what I heard, a lot of host we're 'forgetting' to turn up to work on Sundays. So First decided that because of a select few hosts, the whole 72 operation on Sundays and Bank Holidays will become normal bus, therefore saving the bonuses for hosts working Sunday and double time Bank Holidays |
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