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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 8, 2014 20:55:29 GMT 1
These days if you want to go from Bradford to Leeds it's basically either the 72 or X6 that you have available or the 670 if you fancy a tour, but in the not too distant past there was a larger variety of routes to choose from. Also if you want to travel out to East Leeds you'd have to change in Leeds whereas this didn't used to be the case, can everyone remember these
14 via Pudsey - First Leeds treat it as a local Leeds bus rather than interurban so it departed from the street rather than the Bus Station. Used to go from scruffy Kirkgate and Bramley used to always provide it's oldest possible Atlanteans to add to the downtrodden feel of this route. Survived as a single journey first thing in the morning for years after the main service was withdrawn.
15 via Farsley, same way as 508 runs now, at one time used to continue to Seacroft
88 via Pudsey, Black Prince service, used to run to Cross Gates or Colton depending on the era. First kept it on for a short time but then withdrew it.
89 via similar route to the 62/62A now, strangely used to run from John Street rather than the Interchange, was usually a Dart towards the end
97 via Shipley & Guiseley, obviously an extension to the 97 that runs now. Used to be interesting as it was a Kirkstall Road service so would bring in other types of buses to Bradford like the Scania 8xxx double decks.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 8, 2014 22:04:14 GMT 1
the 670 originally went from Bradford more direct than now similar to today's 747 route.
(going back even further, 2 daily Scarborough journeys on the old WYRCC 43 started back at Bradford & ran via Greengates)
43 (Quickstep) via Barkerend (1990 ish)
78 (BCT&LCT joint service) replaced the Ledgard service via Pudsey in 1967 (similar route into Leeds as present 90): renumbered 88 then discontinued. (the Black Prince 88 was anextension of a Leeds-Pudsey service)
and in more recent times:
X11
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Post by Craig on Apr 8, 2014 23:49:32 GMT 1
The Pudsey routes are quite interesting and have changed considerably.
Years ago the main links to Leeds were the 78 via Whitehall Road and 65 via Stanningley Road. The 4 was a later extension of the Tong Road service (terminating at Greenthorpe, later at Swinnow then later still into Pudsey). Today the 78 is only covered Sunday/evenings by the 90 and two weeks from now the Stanningley route will also be Sunday/evening only on the 14.
The 78 heading the other way to Bradford later formed part of the 610-612 and 635-638 services, running every 30 mins all day and evening through to Troydale. Now the only link is Mon-Sat daytime hourly each on the 611/711.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 9, 2014 8:45:16 GMT 1
The 97 was for many more years beforehand the 655/755 (each hourly) taking an inordinate length of time for the full journey (I once caught it from Manningham to Leeds when very young without checking how long it took).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 18:47:28 GMT 1
What was the way Service 14 Went? am i right in thinking it was Via Service 5 Route to Armley,16 Route to Pudsey then 711 Route to Bradford?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 9, 2014 18:52:56 GMT 1
It was the 5 route all the way to Gamble Hill then up to Swinnow and then Pudsey, not the Bus Station, used to turn left and go round Fulneck and then to Bradford via the straight forward route.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 21:01:23 GMT 1
It was the 5 route all the way to Gamble Hill then up to Swinnow and then Pudsey, not the Bus Station, used to turn left and go round Fulneck and then to Bradford via the straight forward route. Thanks For Info,Sounds like it was an interesting route! |
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Apr 9, 2014 21:23:31 GMT 1
These days if you want to go from Bradford to Leeds it's basically either the 72 or X6 that you have available or the 670 if you fancy a tour, but in the not too distant past there was a larger variety of routes to choose from. Also if you want to travel out to East Leeds you'd have to change in Leeds whereas this didn't used to be the case, can everyone remember these 14 via Pudsey - First Leeds treat it as a local Leeds bus rather than interurban so it departed from the street rather than the Bus Station. Used to go from scruffy Kirkgate and Bramley used to always provide it's oldest possible Atlanteans to add to the downtrodden feel of this route. Survived as a single journey first thing in the morning for years after the main service was withdrawn. 15 via Farsley, same way as 508 runs now, at one time used to continue to Seacroft 88 via Pudsey, Black Prince service, used to run to Cross Gates or Colton depending on the era. First kept it on for a short time but then withdrew it. 89 via similar route to the 62/62A now, strangely used to run from John Street rather than the Interchange, was usually a Dart towards the end 97 via Shipley & Guiseley, obviously an extension to the 97 that runs now. Used to be interesting as it was a Kirkstall Road service so would bring in other types of buses to Bradford like the Scania 8xxx double decks. I remember the 15-15a route ran onwards from bradford - Leeds before heading via the pre 16 route up stoney rock lane to South Parkway, then via york road to sea croft like todays 4/4a (15,16 and 17 ran every 30 mins individually, 10 mins combined think they were extra 16 buses sea croft - bramley only ) 97 was the 655/755 before the change, i think 2001/2002 era. There was the 635 and 638 Clayton - Bradford - Bradford Moor - Pudsey buses, both used to do a circular clockwise/anti-clockwise service around Pudsey and Fulneck. There was also the 636 and 637 buses, which Extended beyond Bradford moor to Troydale evenings and sundays. even a year or so after the overground colour scheme had taken over first , i remember seeing types like (When New the wright B10BLE'S ) operate on these. the routes used to run into pudsey via Cemetery road like the 711. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 3, 2015 18:11:00 GMT 1
It is interesting that route 670 has retained that number. I think it might have been a former NBC/ AJS West Yorkshire route amongst those sold to Yorkshire Rider in 1989.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 3, 2015 19:23:34 GMT 1
It is interesting that route 670 has retained that number. I think it might have been a former NBC/ AJS West Yorkshire route amongst those sold to Yorkshire Rider in 1989. yes it was |
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on May 3, 2015 20:54:23 GMT 1
92 Black Prince then Leeds CityLink left Bradford via Sunbridge Road, New John Street, Cheapside and Forster Square then it follow the 636/637 route to Thornbury Roundabout then into Pudsey then on to Leeds
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on May 3, 2015 20:56:55 GMT 1
These days if you want to go from Bradford to Leeds it's basically either the 72 or X6 that you have available or the 670 if you fancy a tour, but in the not too distant past there was a larger variety of routes to choose from. Also if you want to travel out to East Leeds you'd have to change in Leeds whereas this didn't used to be the case, can everyone remember these 14 via Pudsey - First Leeds treat it as a local Leeds bus rather than interurban so it departed from the street rather than the Bus Station. Used to go from scruffy Kirkgate and Bramley used to always provide it's oldest possible Atlanteans to add to the downtrodden feel of this route. Survived as a single journey first thing in the morning for years after the main service was withdrawn. 15 via Farsley, same way as 508 runs now, at one time used to continue to Seacroft 88 via Pudsey, Black Prince service, used to run to Cross Gates or Colton depending on the era. First kept it on for a short time but then withdrew it. 89 via similar route to the 62/62A now, strangely used to run from John Street rather than the Interchange, was usually a Dart towards the end 97 via Shipley & Guiseley, obviously an extension to the 97 that runs now. Used to be interesting as it was a Kirkstall Road service so would bring in other types of buses to Bradford like the Scania 8xxx double decks. I remember the 15-15a route ran onwards from bradford - Leeds before heading via the pre 16 route up stoney rock lane to South Parkway, then via york road to sea croft like todays 4/4a (15,16 and 17 ran every 30 mins individually, 10 mins combined think they were extra 16 buses sea croft - bramley only ) 97 was the 655/755 before the change, i think 2001/2002 era. There was the 635 and 638 Clayton - Bradford - Bradford Moor - Pudsey buses, both used to do a circular clockwise/anti-clockwise service around Pudsey and Fulneck. There was also the 636 and 637 buses, which Extended beyond Bradford moor to Troydale evenings and sundays. even a year or so after the overground colour scheme had taken over first , i remember seeing types like (When New the wright B10BLE'S ) operate on these. the routes used to run into pudsey via Cemetery road like the 711. 603,610,611,612,613 at various times from 1986-mid/late 2000s also extended to Troydale |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 5, 2015 11:27:35 GMT 1
What used to intrigue me was that Bradford t
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 5, 2015 11:33:31 GMT 1
What used to intrigue me was that Bradford to Leeds could be done in 30 minutes - but Leeds to Pudsey and Pudsey to Bradford (about half the distance ) both took 35 minutes!
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Aug 14, 2015 23:45:13 GMT 1
What used to intrigue me was that Bradford to Leeds could be done in 30 minutes - but Leeds to Pudsey and Pudsey to Bradford (about half the distance ) both took 35 minutes! running via the estates and local roads, than use the A647 or Stanningley road. Look how long the 16 takes to Pudsey, it Runs through nearly every crevice of West Leeds. |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 15, 2015 10:46:00 GMT 1
No these were main road routes. Forgotten
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 15, 2015 10:48:34 GMT 1
No these were main road routes. 4 & 710.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Aug 17, 2015 20:00:07 GMT 1
No these were main road routes. 4 & 710. The 4 does take Longer to Pudsey as it serves more people along the Tong Road and swinnow road corridor. Also it's the only main route along those bits. Compared to the road layout you have 30mph B road,against a 40mph dual carriageway A road with more bus services. I suppose the X11 to Pudsey is much faster than the 4 for those reasons. We also forget the Stanningley By Pass, helps take traffic away from Stanningley road, which would add to a faster journey for the 72 ( even faster journey on X6. |
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Post by leeds rider on May 12, 2016 9:57:41 GMT 1
For a while after deregulation, the 71 used to run Bradford - Leeds - Primley Park. I always wondered what Bradford folk made of the Primley Park destination! The link was broken when the Scott Hall Road guideway opened, and management declined to run guidewheel buses from north Leeds beyond the city centre. The Leeds - Primley Park section still exists as part of the 7 group.
Can't remember what route the Leeds-Bradford section took, but I think it was pretty direct - possibly interleaving with the 72?
I also remember an 88 Bradford-Leeds service from the late 70s - again can't remember the route, but it must have been fairly indirect as I always caught the 72 in preference!
The later, post-deregulation 88 - wasn't that originally an Amberley route? Taken on by Black Prince when Amberley sold up? Or is that my aging, greying memory playing up?
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 12, 2016 13:02:41 GMT 1
Ah the 71 went Bradford - Thornbury same way as 72 (integrated with 72), then into Leeds as present 508. Yes the Primley Park destination did intrigue me as when I caught the 36 regularly there were always several going there, or that's what the driver told them.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 12, 2016 13:14:39 GMT 1
The 88 has been mentioned in previous posts.
The original 88 was the renumbered 78, Bradford-Leeds via Waterloo, Fulneck and Pudsey.
This was discontinued.
Other services ran Bradford- Leeds via Pudsey, including for a while a diverted X6 !
Revisions (cut backs) led to the withdrawal of Bradford-Pudsey-Leeds buses.
There was an Amberley 88, can't remember much about it. Think they stepped in to provide a service on an experimental basis.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 12, 2016 13:16:10 GMT 1
The X11 now runs as an extension of the 611 Bradford-Pudsey service via Barkerend.
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Post by SCH117X on May 14, 2016 8:56:54 GMT 1
One service very few recall is an East Yorkshire incursion, it would have been in the mid to late 1990s when I saw it on Saturdays heading west for Bradford through Armley.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 14, 2016 10:53:09 GMT 1
One service very few recall is an East Yorkshire incursion, it would have been in the mid to late 1990s when I saw it on Saturdays heading west for Bradford through Armley. I remember the bus parked up at the Interchange. There wasn't a Metro timetable for it so didn't know much about it though did see a timetable later. |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 14, 2016 11:18:22 GMT 1
Other limited routes included Daleabus and the 841 (Keighley-Scarborough) oh and 200 (Morecambe-Leeds)
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