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Post by A1YBG on Nov 11, 2013 21:59:53 GMT 1
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Post by Burnside on Nov 11, 2013 22:09:42 GMT 1
Starts tomorrow at 8pm
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Post by Kenton Schweppes on Nov 12, 2013 20:23:16 GMT 1
What with the rash of rail docs on lately, lets hope its decent quality, like the Channel 5 offering about The Great Western, that was quite enjoyable and well made.
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Post by Burnside on Nov 13, 2013 1:24:54 GMT 1
The BBC2 show has been the best, the Ch5 show was good. This one...not sure. First show always hard to judge. Half way through the series, i'll have a better idea.
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Post by guyarab on Nov 13, 2013 18:37:46 GMT 1
I enjoyed it, but I think the York retiree piece ought to have been in the final episode. The Travel Channel some years ago did a fine series on Swiss Railway Journeys.
Just waiting now for the next bus series (wonder how long that will take?).
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Nov 13, 2013 19:17:52 GMT 1
One thing that surprised me was the recovery of the handbag that fallen onto the tracks,have they not though of getting those handheld grabber things that street cleaners use to pick up litter, to recover it instead of walking to the end of the platform and back along the track,then back again
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Nov 13, 2013 19:21:13 GMT 1
I enjoyed it, but I think the York retiree piece ought to have been in the final episode. The Travel Channel some years ago did a fine series on Swiss Railway Journeys. Just waiting now for the next bus series (wonder how long that will take?). We got programmes on trains, aircraft and trucks so let have one on buses! |
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Post by Craig on Nov 13, 2013 20:08:06 GMT 1
One thing that surprised me was the recovery of the handbag that fallen onto the tracks,have they not though of getting those handheld grabber things that street cleaners use to pick up litter, to recover it instead of walking to the end of the platform and back along the track,then back again I got the impression they were showing the correct policy and procedure on camera. In that situation following the rule book (calling the signalman, walking to the end of the platform to walk all the way back) seemed a little OTT, but yes, I know it's the rule book! These documentaries are all exactly the same. Not saying they're bad programmes but FGW and now EC, previous documentaries on UK Rail systems (forget the name) and The Tube - OK, but very formulaic. One episode on drunks. One with an old hand retiring. One in the driver's cab telling us how it's their office. Not really groundbreaking stuff! |
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Post by Craig on Nov 13, 2013 20:10:39 GMT 1
We got programmes on trains, aircraft and trucks so let have one on buses! You may be interested to know, in the recent Keeping London Moving there was an episode focused just on buses and the rest of the programme featured buses to a lesser degree. May still be available on iplayer or Youtube. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 13, 2013 21:39:56 GMT 1
There was a fly on the wall series about EYMS being filmed in the Summer. It is due to air on Channel 5 soon (I expect in the Eddie Stobart slot after Christmas).
I agree that all these shows about the railways are a bit over the top, the BBC2 series were the best. TEN episodes about one TOC is a bit much.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Nov 14, 2013 9:17:44 GMT 1
One thing that surprised me was the recovery of the handbag that fallen onto the tracks,have they not though of getting those handheld grabber things that street cleaners use to pick up litter, to recover it instead of walking to the end of the platform and back along the track,then back again I got the impression they were showing the correct policy and procedure on camera. In that situation following the rule book (calling the signalman, walking to the end of the platform to walk all the way back) seemed a little OTT, but yes, I know it's the rule book! Don't think it was all for the cameras, a station manager on South West Trains (Lymington I think) got fired for not following the procedures and just hopping down to recover a shopping trolley that had fallen on to the tracks - and that was at a station on a line with only a single unit 'in steam' so the manager knew that no trains would be coming whilst he recovered it as it had just passed heading the other way. |
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Post by resolution on Nov 28, 2013 21:29:45 GMT 1
The fellow at Lymington was indeed fired for not following procedures but there was a lot more to it than just retrieving a shopping trolley - he had a lot of 'previous' which the press chose not to investigate or report.
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Post by Kenton Schweppes on Nov 29, 2013 22:28:07 GMT 1
Got to agree hardly new ground being trod hear with this doc, once you've seen one you seen em all. As a football fan also and one how travels away regular with his team by train we seem to get a bad press. Dry trains, how come they suddenly appear when there is a large amount of fans travelling, dry trains never crop up at other times? The police officer said it wasn't a because 'football fans were travelling' but I've never been on a dry service other than when football fans are travelling.
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Post by Burnside on Nov 30, 2013 7:58:45 GMT 1
Dry trains are a regular thing in the North East. The last Whitby to Middlesbrough and last Newcastle to Carlisle trains are regularly dry and there is no football fans on these...
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Post by guyarab on Nov 30, 2013 20:46:50 GMT 1
Got to agree hardly new ground being trod hear with this doc, once you've seen one you seen em all. As a football fan also and one how travels away regular with his team by train we seem to get a bad press. Dry trains, how come they suddenly appear when there is a large amount of fans travelling, dry trains never crop up at other times? The police officer said it wasn't a because 'football fans were travelling' but I've never been on a dry service other than when football fans are travelling. "Once you've one, you've seen them all"....doesn't that also apply to football too? I have been on trains when football fans have joined us, some a little enebriated beforehand, with others becoming so during the journey and changing the whole atmosphere to the detriment of other travellers. The most recent journey with such 'fans' was returning from holiday in early July, when at Doncaster (or it may have been Rotherham) after a so called friendly. There can't have been more than a dozen, but it became most uncomfortable with them. They weren't that young either. |
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Post by Kenton Schweppes on Nov 30, 2013 22:32:25 GMT 1
Got to agree hardly new ground being trod hear with this doc, once you've seen one you seen em all. As a football fan also and one how travels away regular with his team by train we seem to get a bad press. Dry trains, how come they suddenly appear when there is a large amount of fans travelling, dry trains never crop up at other times? The police officer said it wasn't a because 'football fans were travelling' but I've never been on a dry service other than when football fans are travelling. I have been on trains when football fans have joined us, some a little enebriated beforehand, with others becoming so during the journey and changing the whole atmosphere to the detriment of other travellers. The most recent journey with such 'fans' was returning from holiday in early July, when at Doncaster (or it may have been Rotherham) after a so called friendly. There can't have been more than a dozen, but it became most uncomfortable with them. They weren't that young either. If you don't like football that's fine, but not all football fans are like that when travelling to games. Whether groups of males are going to football or not if booze is involved its likely to be messy. Its not an exclusive problem to football fans, getting drunk and lairy on public transport, you see it every weekend, football season or not. The 'ale trail' train springs to mind. Sorry for my slow response anyway, I've been out today watching my team, getting aled up and terrorizing Xmas shoppers on trains!!! |
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Post by guyarab on Dec 1, 2013 21:32:32 GMT 1
I know late night revellers (and those travelling to Marsden on Saturdays) do cause some discomfort, but football supporters will forever be tarnished as louts whenever travel is concerned.
On the same day Town defeated Leeds 3-2, somewhat further south, Millwall supporters were seen causing disruption at London Bridge station as they were heading to Reading. I have seen a recording of their 'antics' where they were scattering passengers and frightening children in their wake as they swept into and through the station. I am not sure if the trains they used were 'dry', but they should have been.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Dec 2, 2013 9:36:10 GMT 1
Alcohol is prohibited from all coaches carrying supporters to football games, you also have to register the journey and any meal stops with the police liaison for the club before hand - operators who fail to enforce this will come to the attention of the TC and fall under all the standard remedies & punishments. Whether the police have the same rules for those rail journeys assessed as likely to carry the majority of football fans I don't know.
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Post by Kenton Schweppes on Dec 2, 2013 20:00:50 GMT 1
Alcohol is prohibited from all coaches carrying supporters to football games, you also have to register the journey and any meal stops with the police liaison for the club before hand - operators who fail to enforce this will come to the attention of the TC and fall under all the standard remedies & punishments. Whether the police have the same rules for those rail journeys assessed as likely to carry the majority of football fans I don't know. Its not the 80's anymore, most police forces treat football fans like animals, even after the Hillsborough revelations the police aren't interested and are over zealous. Fans going to games are just normal passengers who happen to be attending a football game. Football fans from other clubs can mingle without knocking lumps out of each. Manchester Piccadilly is a good example of this most Saturdays, with either City or United at home most weekends and plethora of other clubs in the area there is always likely to be large amounts of fans milling around and I've never ever seen one bit of trouble at Piccadilly before or after games. |
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