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Post by Penfold on Dec 22, 2012 22:16:39 GMT 1
The following ex Arriva Yorkshire DAF ALX300 have now been moved to Arriva North East
442 R442KWT
443 R443KWT
460 R460KWT
461 R461KWT
More are to follow as well
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 17:49:09 GMT 1
They can keep them!
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Post by sconehead85 on Dec 23, 2012 18:20:22 GMT 1
Thats the idea I think! At their age this is their last move within Arriva. sconehead85 |
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Post by kuyoyo on Dec 23, 2012 19:49:38 GMT 1
Sorry to put a damper on this but: 1) Only 8 are transferring, all for Redcar to replace the oldest non-DDA Prestiges 2) Given there's due to be a major investment in new vehicles next year to replace the remaining non-DDA MPDs and Prestiges, these will not last survive a year with ANE. |
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Post by timelesstable on Dec 23, 2012 20:16:14 GMT 1
Sorry to put a damper on this but: these will not last survive a year with ANE. Wait until you've had a trip out on one you won't want them more than 6 months that assumes that they will last that long. |
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Post by clifton on Dec 24, 2012 13:13:46 GMT 1
I was wondering how they will get that far! Must be towing them up there ;D
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Post by Matty on Dec 24, 2012 19:27:15 GMT 1
I like them, they are nice buses just that they are a bit slow uphills.
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Post by Penfold on Dec 24, 2012 22:20:34 GMT 1
Sorry to put a damper on this but: 1) Only 8 are transferring, all for Redcar to replace the oldest non-DDA Prestiges 2) Given there's due to be a major investment in new vehicles next year to replace the remaining non-DDA MPDs and Prestiges, these will not last survive a year with ANE. So ANE is replacing non DDA stock with only slighty newer non DDA stock ? I have a funny feeling they will last longer than a year, thats if they dont shake theirselves to bits ! Penfold |
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Dec 27, 2012 19:18:22 GMT 1
Redcar, hmm Redcar operate some beastly hilly routes e.g the those out of Saltburn, did Redcar take on routes 5, 5A and x5 from Loftus? If so then those buses won't make it up those hilly routes first time out!
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Post by kuyoyo on Dec 28, 2012 0:17:31 GMT 1
Redcar, hmm Redcar operate some beastly hilly routes e.g the those out of Saltburn, did Redcar take on routes 5, 5A and x5 from Loftus? If so then those buses won't make it up those hilly routes first time out! Stockton and Whitby share the 5 between Middlesbrough and Whitby (split at Loftus), Stockton operate the 5a as far as Brotton and the evening 5bs as far as Easington. The likelihood is these will be used on the 22/64 services between Middlesbrough and Ings Farm/New Marske. Plus the 64a to Grangetown on Saturdays due to the different interworking patterns due to reduced PVR (64 stands alone on weekdays with the 64a intterworking with the X3/X4, on Saturdays the 64/64a interwork). |
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Post by Matty on Dec 28, 2012 18:17:52 GMT 1
Redcar, hmm Redcar operate some beastly hilly routes e.g the those out of Saltburn, did Redcar take on routes 5, 5A and x5 from Loftus? If so then those buses won't make it up those hilly routes first time out! Temsa avenues are the best for climbing those hills as proven on the Youtube video of it in snow up saltburn bank. |
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Post by Penfold on Dec 28, 2012 19:45:41 GMT 1
Redcar, hmm Redcar operate some beastly hilly routes e.g the those out of Saltburn, did Redcar take on routes 5, 5A and x5 from Loftus? If so then those buses won't make it up those hilly routes first time out! Temsa avenues are the best for climbing those hills as proven on the Youtube video of it in snow up saltburn bank. Also good at burning when they get a bit hot too !. I think ANE have lost 3 of the batch to spontaneous self-combustion so far, nearly as good as the Prestiges ! Penfold |
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Post by kuyoyo on Dec 28, 2012 20:12:52 GMT 1
Temsa avenues are the best for climbing those hills as proven on the Youtube video of it in snow up saltburn bank. Also good at burning when they get a bit hot too !. I think ANE have lost 3 of the batch to spontaneous self-combustion so far, nearly as good as the Prestiges ! Penfold 2 written off so far - only 1 with fire-damage. There's a further example under repairs after fire damage earlier in the year, and another off the road with accident damage. |
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Post by driver6540 on Dec 28, 2012 20:33:47 GMT 1
Im no expert but, From reading comments on this and other forums mainly from the peeps who know, ie drivers like Penfold etc. There does seem to be a major problem with DAF engines once they start getting on a bit. It doesn't appear to be confined to AY example's either. I've seen that Arriva NW & Cymru fleets are beset by problems with the older DAF engined buses. I know for a fact the ex-London DLA's in those fleets are notoriously underpowered and unreliable (Every time, you board one in Rhyl on service 12 to LLandudno, the driver will tell you.) I know Stagecoache's examples of the ALX300 and ALX400 of a similar vintage are powered by MAN and Dennis Trident respectively and dont seem to be beset by the same problems as Arriva's DAF engined examples.
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Post by timelesstable on Dec 28, 2012 21:18:47 GMT 1
Im no expert but, From reading comments on this and other forums mainly from the peeps who know, ie drivers like Penfold etc. There does seem to be a major problem with DAF engines once they start getting on a bit. It doesn't appear to be confined to AY example's either. I've seen that Arriva NW & Cymru fleets are beset by problems with the older DAF engined buses. I know for a fact the ex-London DLA's in those fleets are notoriously underpowered and unreliable (Every time, you board one in Rhyl on service 12 to LLandudno, the driver will tell you.) I know Stagecoache's examples of the ALX300 and ALX400 of a similar vintage are powered by MAN and Dennis Trident respectively and dont seem to be beset by the same problems as Arriva's DAF engined examples. The main problem is not specfically the DAF engine but the high ratio diff in the back axle. Then when coupled to the just a 3 speed Voith gearbox the lower ratio is too high and the gap between gears is also too wide. The lower numbered Arriva Yokshire ones have 4 speed ZF boxes and are better, but once the gearbox needs work bits for these are no that readily available. |
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Post by Penfold on Jan 21, 2013 20:57:21 GMT 1
R443KWT has entered service for the first time at Arriva North East (Redcar) today renumbered 4092.
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Post by Penfold on Jan 24, 2013 11:15:45 GMT 1
Full fleet number list of the DAFs transferred to Arriva North East
R442KWT 4091
R443KWT 4092
R460KWT 4093
R461KWT 4094
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Post by kuyoyo on Feb 14, 2013 0:21:09 GMT 1
The other 4 have now arrived in the North East. R458/KWT have turned up at Jesmond and S475/7ANW at Stockton. They should become 4095/6/7/8 in that order.
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Post by kaytown on Feb 14, 2013 9:56:32 GMT 1
I had a ride on 475 last week (see Unusual Workings thread), that might well have been it's last ever day working for AY. Also rode on 477 just before christmas, so i got 'em both just before their transfer away.
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Post by kuyoyo on Feb 22, 2013 0:01:32 GMT 1
A further example has now arrived in the North East, but not with Arriva. 465 (S465 GUB) has be purchased by East Cleveland-based Stagecarriage.
Meanwhile, the previously given order for 458/9/75/7 is incorrect. They are actually 4097/8/5/6 instead. 4097 has recieved a full repaint but has had its old Yorkshire fleetnumbers fitted rather than its new North East ones. As yet, none have entered service nor yet has 4093.
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Post by kuyoyo on Apr 3, 2013 23:56:34 GMT 1
A further example has now arrived in the North East, but not with Arriva. 465 (S465 GUB) has be purchased by East Cleveland-based Stagecarriage. Meanwhile, the previously given order for 458/9/75/7 is incorrect. They are actually 4097/8/5/6 instead. 4097 has recieved a full repaint but has had its old Yorkshire fleetnumbers fitted rather than its new North East ones. As yet, none have entered service nor yet has 4093. The Yorkshire DAF with Stagecarriage is not 465 but 467, now repanalled and repainted as can be seen below: www.flickr.com/photos/60502549@N02/8616143749/All 8 with ANE are now in service, 4097/8 both entered service at Ashington fully repainted. 4098 has now jointed the rest at Redcar. And, to the people saying we'd hate them, they are an improvement over their Prestige sisters up here. |
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Post by Jack on Jun 23, 2013 12:52:31 GMT 1
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Post by simon on Jul 5, 2013 20:12:57 GMT 1
I remember when I moved to Redcar from Halifax in 1989. 811 followed me up with one or two other old friends. We had 811 at Redcar, now in the Nort East it became 562 in the United fleet. I think the slogan at West Riding at that time was, 'We are delighted to send the junk to United' Nothing has changed 24 years later!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 15:30:23 GMT 1
I remember when I moved to Redcar from Halifax in 1989. 811 followed me up with one or two other old friends. We had 811 at Redcar, now in the Nort East it became 562 in the United fleet. I think the slogan at West Riding at that time was, 'We are delighted to send the junk to United' Nothing has changed 24 years later! 811 as in the Bristol VRTSL2? I seem to remember 804/805 and 811 being the last three SL2s to remain at West Riding for some time after most og the batch had been out placed by Olympians. |
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Post by simon on Jul 15, 2013 22:00:14 GMT 1
We had 561/562 at Redcar. They were HHL 736L and JHL 776L. 804 never arrived, I seem to remember it may have been used in a non PSV role in the Wetherby area when it left West Riding.
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