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Post by kommie123 on Apr 6, 2012 19:23:08 GMT 1
So whats your predictions of any changes in the area?
256 being rerouted? 253 evening services going? Interested in your thoughts..
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Post by SF07 on Apr 6, 2012 20:09:33 GMT 1
I think it will be interesting to see which operators will bid for services. Arriva does have a bit of a stranglehold on services in the area. There's potential for other operators to try and get some services off Arriva. TLC Travel, Tates, maybe even Centrebus and First.
As for services, would be surprised if 256 does not see some kind of change (re-route, merge into another route/routes). Although, a lot of the changes will probably be timetable changes (journeys withdrawn or operated by different company).
Services that are mentioned to potentially be under review are: 128, 129, 205 (Dewsbury-Pudsey), 209, 212, 213, 220, 221, 222, 223, 229, 253, 254, 255, 256, 278, ML1, ML2, ML3, ML9, ML10. Details should come out late spring/summer.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 6, 2012 22:29:32 GMT 1
This will be an interesting one although if Arriva aren't planning on making many changes to their commercial network, I can't see much happening.
Unlike the other reviews, most services are town to town long distance services that will be commercial with some tendered elements diverting into estates etc, rather than there being a number of wholely tendered services for other operators to bid for.
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Post by angrycommuter on May 9, 2012 16:28:18 GMT 1
Per the wymetro site:
Metro is reviewing the bus services it supports in the North Kirklees area (including Batley, Cleckheaton, Dewsbury, Heckmondwike and Mirfield).
Consultation on our proposed changes will start on Thursday 16 May 2012 and will run until Monday 02 July 2012. We will use your comments to help finalise the new network and issue tender documents to bus operators. Contracts will be awarded in autumn, with the new network in place by the end of January 2013.
Most bus services in the North Kirklees Area are operated commercially and will not be affected by Metro’s review.
North Kirklees is served by a number of core bus services. Read more about the North Kirklees Core Bus Routes
126 /127 Dewsbury - Ossett - Horbury - Lupset – Wakefield
202 / 203Leeds - Tingley - Dewsbury - Huddersfield
268 Dewsbury – Heckmondwike - Cleckheaton – Bradford
281/282/283 Fieldhead Estate/Bradford – Batley – Dewsbury – Thornhill
Which bus services will be affected?
We are still working on our proposals. Details will be added on Thursday 16 May 2012.
The North Kirklees Bus Review will impact on some surrounding areas in Bradford, Calderdale, Leeds and Wakefield due to many of the bus services providing inter town links. Passengers that use a bus service which travels through the North Kirklees area are advised to check this page to see if they will be affected.
Next Thursday is the day when the services under review are announced. I'm guessing it will be mostly the early morning, evening and Sunday services along with the ML routes and a few other tendered bits (128, 256 etc.). It will be interesting to see if any other company bid for services as this is mostly an Arriva stronghold. TLC operate some ML routes - will they expand further? Will Lyles/Longstaff look to expand? It's a bit too far away from Barnsley for Tates I would imagine but could Centrebus look to add services or even First or Stagecoach?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 9, 2012 17:13:39 GMT 1
Due to the fact that almost all services are 'big bus' services to Leeds etc, I can't see there being many oppotunities for anyone else but Arriva during Mon-Sat Daytimes.
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on May 9, 2012 18:01:58 GMT 1
What's the status with the 205 and 213, are these fully subsidised? I'm reckoning something will be happening to these services due to the review consultations in Pudsey and Morley. Can see a lot of confusion on both consultation locations with many wanting to know what's happening to Leeds services. Will some of the services serving Morley estates come under the North Kirklees review such as those via Bruntcliffe, the bit of the 153 between Morley and Tingley, the 85 around the Glen estate?
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Post by kommie123 on May 10, 2012 19:48:31 GMT 1
Sounds to me like the 205 evening and sunday services could go, the 253 evening and Sunday services plus the 256 in its entirety. Although there will probably be a petition and they will get 7000 signatures so the service can run through Hunsworth picking up and dropping off NOONE!!! I hope Metro stick to their guns!!
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Post by 77syk7 on May 16, 2012 11:01:47 GMT 1
Full details have just been published on the Metro site - lots of changes, but nothing too unexpected.
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Post by angrycommuter on May 16, 2012 11:49:42 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on May 16, 2012 13:53:00 GMT 1
Proposed changes: *117 - The evening and Sunday timetables will be amended to improve co-ordination with service 278 between Wakefield and Roundwood Queens Drive *128 - Re-routed via Savile Road instead of Headfield Road. Journeys withdrawn: **From Dewsbury: 6.15am weekdays to Overton, 5.15pm Saturdays to Middlestown, 7.05pm to Grange Moor **From Grange Moor: 7.33pm to Dewsbury **All Sunday journeys *129 - Withdraw *202/203 - Runs commercially from January 2013. Evening service after 9pm will run every hour Huddersfield-Leeds and every half-hour Huddersfield-Shaw Cross *205 (Dewsbury-Pudsey) - Evening/Sunday service withdrawn along with first journey from Dewsbury. The 7.30am Saturday journey from Dewsbury to run at 7.40pm *213: Buses to leave Morley 1 minute later *220: 5.59am Saturday journey from Birstall to Leeds to be withdrawn *223: Journeys withdrawn: **From Mirfield: 8.56pm to Batley, 9.56pm, 10.56pm to Heckmondwike **From Heckmondwike 8.41pm, 10.41pm to Mirfield **From Batley: 9.25pm to Mirfield *229: Journeys withdrawn **From Huddersfield: 10.30pm to Batley **From Heckmondwike: 10.56pm to Huddersfield *252: New evening service between Leeds and Dewsbury via Cleckheaton, Scholes and Heckmondwike replacing services 254 and 255. *253: Evening/Sunday timetable revised to co-ordinate with 283 between Bradford and East Bierley. Journeys withdrawn: **From Dewsbury: 6.19am (Sat) to Bradford, 10.30pm (Mon-Sat) to Cleckheaton **From Bradford: 7.40am (Sat) to Birkenshaw *254/255: Evening service to be withdrawn and replaced by service 252. 5.58am (M-F) Cleckheaton-Halifax 255 journey withdrawn *256: Changes in September 2012 in line with school year. Withdrawn in January 2013 and partly replaced by new service 257 and by service ML3. *257: New service between Leeds and Brighouse via Cleckheaton, Scholes and Clifton, replacing Leeds-Scholes journeys on 255 and service 256. *268: Operates commercially from January 2013. Some journeys may be withdrawn by Arriva *278: Sunday late evening service (from 9pm) to be withdrawn. Evening/Sunday timetable revised to co-ordinate with service 117. *281/282/283: Commercial service but changes scheduled for January 2013. Thornhill-Dewsbury route reduced from every 12 mins to every 15 mins Mon-Sat daytime and from every 30 mins to every hour evenings and Sundays. *ML2: Re-routed away from Scholes, running via Moorend between Turnsteads and Cleckheaton. Re-routed to serve Cleckheaton bus station to provide connections with other services. *ML3: Re-routed to cover Hunsworth Lane as far as East Bierley off-peak for connections to Bradford with service 253/283. This replace service 256. Victoria Road no longer served. Re-routed to serve Cleckheaton bus station to provide connections with other services. *No changes proposed: 209, 212, 221, 222, ML1, ML9, ML10 *Service operates without funding: 126/127, 205 (Dewsbury-Northorpe), 217, 219, X25 *Service reviewed by Kirklees MBC in 2013: Dewsbury FTB *Service reviewed in Wakefield City consultation: 119/120 *Service reviewed in April 2014: 231/232 www.wymetro.com/consultation/busreview/NorthKirkleesBusServices.htm |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 16, 2012 17:25:45 GMT 1
Full details have just been published on the Metro site - lots of changes, but nothing too unexpected. Withdrawing the 256, particularly the long established Bradford to Cleckheaton section is quite unexpected. The Hunsworth area always seems to get hit, first they lost their buses to Leeds when they changed to all run via Gomersal, now they are losing their buses to Bradford as well, plus remember the Metro Local services only run during off peak shopping hours, there are no peak services. The changes to the Brighouse part of the 256 are probably better than now, although I was hoping the 255 would be extended to Halifax on all journeys at some point. As I expected there are next to no opportunities for lots of retendering like we have seen in Bradford recently. |
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Post by A1YBG on May 16, 2012 17:32:39 GMT 1
Can't believe they keeping the 213 as I never see any more than a handful going to morley from Batley when there is a 221 from Batley to there!
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Post by kommie123 on May 16, 2012 19:18:29 GMT 1
I recommended a number of changes to service 256 to Metro so blame me for that one as it looks like they have gone ahead with the ideas. I wonder how Wyke residents will react to losing their evening bus service. Surprised the 253 was relatively unscaved too!
How can anyone justify a service that runs empty through Hunsworth. There have been at least 30 occasions where I have boarded the 256 and noone has got on or off in Hunsworth. Its a collection of around 100 houses where no-one uses the bus. Im minded to go to the consultation meeting in Hunsworth to state this fact as Im sure they will be all out with their "save our bus petitions" so the taxpayer can waste more money on nonsense!
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on May 16, 2012 21:32:50 GMT 1
To be fair on Hunsworth residents, they haven't got a bus to anywhere useful, Bradford has no shops and they have to go the longer way round to get to Leeds changing at Cleckheaton, that would put many people off using the bus.
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Post by glennh2 on May 16, 2012 22:41:08 GMT 1
The 254/5 Evening services needed revising- Halifax -Leeds is direct but the return bus runs as a 254 to Dewsbury wirh Halifax passengers having to wait half an hour at Cleckheaton for a connection. Outbound Dewsbury passengers have to change at Cleckheaton. Arriva has obviously decided the Halifax bit has the lightest load
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Post by truthaddict on Mar 11, 2024 16:58:15 GMT 1
Can anyone remember the route of the 282 between Batley and Fieldhead? iirc I think it went via Howden Clough and was quite a convoluted route.
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Post by stephen01 on Mar 11, 2024 19:42:00 GMT 1
Can anyone remember the route of the 282 between Batley and Fieldhead? iirc I think it went via Howden Clough and was quite a convoluted route. yes it ran via Halifax Road, Stainclffe, DDH, Manor Way, Batley, Howden Clough & Birstall. |
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Post by truthaddict on Mar 15, 2024 9:50:53 GMT 1
How did it run via Manor Way?
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Post by stephen01 on Mar 15, 2024 20:41:26 GMT 1
How did it run via Manor Way? various ways during it's incarnations but the main ones were either same was as the 213 does at present BUT before it got axed it woild do a do it as a loop running along Track Road & Thorncliffe Road to & from DDH. |
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