SF07
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Post by SF07 on Feb 17, 2011 11:43:41 GMT 1
Transdev are changing the Mainline services again. From the 6 March, services will run as the same number in both directions rather than having several different numbers. As a result, the service between Keighley and Burnley will be numbered 25 in both directions. Buses to/from Skipton will be numbered 28 (via Earby and Barnoldswick), 29 (via Barnoldswick) or 30 (via Earby). Also ties in with Keighley & District's 31 service to the Silent Night factory. It is unclear at the moment if all services terminate at Burnley or if they will carry on as a through route and just change numbers at Burnley bus station. New numbers (all starting from Burnley bus station): *20 to Padiham and Altham Industrial Estate *21 to Nelson, Colne and Trawden *22 to Padiham Slade Lane*23 to Padiham and Accrington *24 to Nelson and Colne *25 to Nelson, Colne and Keighley *26 to Padiham, Whalley and Clitheroe *27 to Padiham, Sabden, Whalley and Clitheroe *28 to Nelson, Colne, Earby, Barnoldswick and Skipton *29 to Nelson, Colne, Barnoldswick and Skipton *30 to Nelson, Colne, Earby and Skipton www.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/web/viewdoc.asp?id=65578 |
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 17, 2011 19:40:05 GMT 1
Not too surprising - having different route numbers in each direction can cause confusion and Blazefield gave that reason for dropping them in Harrogate when they introduced the now superceded three digit route numbers.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 17, 2011 22:14:43 GMT 1
This change may now just move any confusion and complication from one situation to another.
i.e a passenger from Nelson wanting to go to Accrington could now have to catch say a 25 which changes into a 23 at Burnley at :00 or a 28 which changes in 23 at :30.
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Post by northerner on Feb 17, 2011 22:42:21 GMT 1
Given the complexity of the Mainline network there isn't really much Transdev can do to avoid confusion
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Feb 17, 2011 23:32:35 GMT 1
Going back to the 1960's in Bradford, the routes to Haworth Road 69 (70 peak only) and Sandy Lane 71 were linked to the four routes via Undercliffe. Initially the numbers were kept, going towards Haworth Rd, but after renumbering the numbers used depended where it started on the other part of the route 29 Thorpe Edge, 32 Apperley Bridge, 33 Greengates or 35 Ravenscliffe Avenue.
I can't remember there being any confusion.
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Post by stevieinselby on Feb 19, 2011 12:26:26 GMT 1
This change may now just move any confusion and complication from one situation to another. i.e a passenger from Nelson wanting to go to Accrington could now have to catch say a 25 which changes into a 23 at Burnley at :00 or a 28 which changes in 23 at :30. Given the complexity of the network, there will always be some anomalies. At the moment, the main problems are: (1) different numbers in each direction are confusing for passengers, and (2) consistent numbers don't always reflect consistent routes. eg, to Skipton, buses are numbered 27/28/29 depending on whether they go via Barnoldswick, Earby or both. But from Skipton, they are numbered 22 (or occasionally 21/23) regardless of which route they take to Burnley, whereas from Keighley, buses are numbered 21/22/23 depending on what time of day or what day of the week it is. I would imagine that very few passengers are travelling across the central section - most people will start or end their journey somewhere between Colne and Burnley, in which case the ultimate destination and route is irrelevant until you get to the central section. |
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Post by Jack on Mar 1, 2011 11:22:45 GMT 1
So is that three buses an hour now between Burnley and Skipton by Transdev? From reading the article in Route One about Pennine, they appear to be unfazed by the competition with strong loyalty from passengers towards Pennine. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Mar 1, 2011 13:06:15 GMT 1
So is that three buses an hour now between Burnley and Skipton by Transdev? From reading the article in Route One about Pennine, they appear to be unfazed by the competition with strong loyalty from passengers towards Pennine. No, they are not changing the timetable, just the route numbering. Daytime services run via either Barnoldswick or Earby, but some peak time services run via both. There won't be 28s running on a regular basis throughout the day. Given that Transdev are running Pulsar 2 bodied Volvo B7RLEs and Pennine are only now starting to upgrade to early model SLF Darts (from step entrance Darts), Pennine must be doing something extremely well to get that level of customer loyalty! |
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Post by SF07 on Mar 4, 2011 20:59:13 GMT 1
The timetable for the 25 is now available on the Transdev Lancashire website. Passengers will be able to travel through Burnley on the same bus, just the number will change. Most journeys will continue as a 23 to Accrington, while some early weekday morning journeys in both directions and one Monday-Saturday evening journey and Sunday journeys from Keighley will continue as a 152 towards Blackburn and Preston. Other journeys run to/from Padiham only. www.lancashirebus.co.uk/cmsUploads/route/files/web_keighley-1.pdfFor services 28, 29 and 30, buses will run through Burnley and continue as a 26 or 27 to Clitheroe, 152 to Blackburn and Preston, 23 to Accrington or 20/22 to Padiham. www.lancashirebus.co.uk/cmsUploads/route/files/web_mainline_north.pdf |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 4, 2011 21:08:08 GMT 1
The 152 is only a connection not a through bus, as it is run by Lancashire United
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