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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 9, 2010 13:02:04 GMT 1
Bradford Interchange-Kings Cross Scheduled to start from the May timetable change. Details to follow. Details are also in the current RAIL magazine. Three trips daily out and back from the Interchange.
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Post by glennh2 on Apr 9, 2010 13:12:15 GMT 1
Is 23rd May a confirmed start date?
Times I've seen are as follows
Bradford dep 0651, 1022, 1546 London dep 1048, 1448, 1948
these times are listed in the Eureka timetable document available from the EC website
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Post by Burnside on Apr 13, 2010 6:59:03 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on Apr 14, 2010 22:16:17 GMT 1
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Post by glennh2 on Apr 15, 2010 11:34:25 GMT 1
Nothing has been confirmed though and there is no date on their website- surely if they were launching in May advance tickets would be available by now?
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Post by SF07 on Apr 15, 2010 14:49:02 GMT 1
Nothing has been confirmed though and there is no date on their website- surely if they were launching in May advance tickets would be available by now? If you go to buy tickets on the Grand Central website, it does have their Bradford-London journeys. Full times are: Weekdays:Station | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Bradford Interchange | 6.51am | 10.06am | 3.22pm | Halifax | 7.08am | 10.38am | 3.36pm | Brighouse | 7.20am | 10.50am | 3.47pm | Wakefield Kirkgate | 7.42am | 11.13am | 4.11pm | Pontefract Monkhill | 8.01am | 11.35am | 4.34pm | Doncaster | 8.28am | 12.06pm | 5.00pm | Kings Cross | 10.06am | 1.46pm | 6.46pm |
Station | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Kings Cross | 10.50am | 2.20pm | 7.48pm | Doncaster | 12.28pm | 4.00pm | 9.29pm | Pontefract Monkhill | - | 4.27pm | 10.01pm | Wakefield Kirkgate | 12.59pm | 4.46pm | 10.20pm | Brighouse | 1.26pm | 5.06pm | 10.44pm | Halifax | 1.37pm | 5.22pm | 10.56pm | Bradford Interchange | 1.54pm | 5.39pm | 11.12pm |
Saturdays:Station | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Bradford Interchange | 6.20am | 10.22am | 3.22pm | Halifax | 6.34am | 10.38am | 3.35pm | Brighouse | 6.46am | 10.49am | 3.46pm | Wakefield Kirkgate | 7.06am | 11.13am | 4.10pm | Pontefract Monkhill | 7.25am | 11.34am | 4.26pm | Doncaster | 7.55am | 12.06pm | 4.56pm | Kings Cross | 9.43am | 1.45pm | 6.40pm |
Station | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Kings Cross | 10.36am | 2.39pm | 7.48pm | Doncaster | 12.12pm | 4.21pm | 9.29pm | Pontefract Monkhill | 12.37pm | 4.51pm | 9.53pm | Wakefield Kirkgate | 12.56pm | 5.10pm | 10.15pm | Brighouse | 1.26pm | 5.29pm | 10.42pm | Halifax | 1.37pm | 5.39pm | 10.53pm | Bradford Interchange | 1.54pm | 5.54pm | 11.10pm |
Sundays:Station | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Bradford Interchange | 7.52am | 12.08pm | 3.33pm | Halifax | 8.06am | 12.22pm | 3.46pm | Brighouse | 8.18am | 12.34pm | 3.56pm | Wakefield Kirkgate | 8.41am | 1.02pm | 4.19pm | Pontefract Monkhill | - | 1.21pm | 4.38pm | Doncaster | 9.05am | 1.45pm | 5.03pm | Kings Cross | 10.57am | 3.20pm | 6.47pm |
Station | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Kings Cross | 11.35am | 3.57pm | 7.27pm | Doncaster | 1.08pm | 5.30pm | 9.02pm | Pontefract Monkhill | 1.33pm | 5.56pm | 9.27pm | Wakefield Kirkgate | 1.52pm | 6.15pm | 9.46pm | Brighouse | 2.20pm | 6.38pm | 10.09pm | Halifax | 2.35pm | 6.51pm | 10.21pm | Bradford Interchange | 2.49pm | 7.09pm | 10.36pm |
www.buytickets.grandcentralrail.co.uk/
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Post by Burnside on Apr 16, 2010 10:19:51 GMT 1
Note the above that one journey from London does not call at Pontefract. This is to maintain route knowledge of a diversionary route.
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Post by SF07 on May 7, 2010 14:07:03 GMT 1
The PDF timetable is now available on the Grand Central website, which includes a list of prices for tickets to London Kings Cross. Standard fares to London:Single:*Doncaster: £40 (off-peak), £65 (anytime) *Pontefract: £45 (off-peak), £70 (anytime) *Wakefield, Brighouse, Halifax and Bradford: £49 (off-peak), £76 (anytime) Return:*Doncaster: £60 (off-peak), £100 (anytime) *Pontefract: £64 (off-peak), £110 (anytime) *Wakefield, Brighouse, Halifax and Bradford: £67 (off-peak), £120 (anytime) First-class fares to London:Single:*Doncaster: £66 (off-peak), £99 (anytime) *Pontefract: £75 (off-peak), £110 (anytime) *Wakefield, Brighouse, Halifax and Bradford: £77 (off-peak), £124 (anytime) Return:*Doncaster: £99 (off-peak), £160 (anytime) *Pontefract: £119 (off-peak), £180 (anytime) *Wakefield, Brighouse, Halifax and Bradford: £124 (off-peak), £189 (anytime) www.grandcentralrail.co.uk/West%20Riding%2023MAY10.pdf
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Post by Burnside on May 7, 2010 16:11:05 GMT 1
I wish them well.
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Post by glennh2 on May 8, 2010 23:17:46 GMT 1
absolutely
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Post by steve55 on May 24, 2010 20:27:39 GMT 1
Saw the 22.36 arrival at Bradford Interchange last night - 180114. Stayed in Platform 2 until 23.25ish and then left towards Halifax.
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Post by Matty on May 24, 2010 22:46:17 GMT 1
I got told that one of the trips yesterday was 30 mins late, not a good start!
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Post by timelesstable on May 26, 2010 16:30:28 GMT 1
One of the Wakefield Free City Buses ST1 is carrying a full rear and window adverts along both sides for Grand Central.
Personally I think they look quite nice and suit the bus style.
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Post by Danny on May 29, 2010 19:59:53 GMT 1
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Post by m60800 on Jun 26, 2010 20:12:48 GMT 1
It's been a rather poor week for Grand Central. 1022 from Bradford cancelled Fri and Sat and I see that the 1208 is off tomorrow as well. (Had intended to catch it to Doncaster yesterday. Ticket office clerk said they'd had 3 breakdowns this week already, and not much spare capacity.)
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Post by Burnside on Jun 28, 2010 14:41:40 GMT 1
Being open access, they don't get government subsidy to spend on leasing stock that is sat around waiting to be used.
They have to make do with what they have and having staff sort out onward travel is good business and also good PR
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Post by angrycommuter on Aug 11, 2010 12:31:41 GMT 1
There was a brief piece in the latest Railway Herald online magazine that stated Grand Central are in discussions with Network Rail and the Dewsbury MP to get a stop in Mirfield. As the service travels through Mirfield this would make sense, but I guess it depends on the other trains that need access immediately after the Grand Central service.
Mirfield could handle passengers from the whole of North Kirklees (Dewsbury, Batley, Cleck-Heckmond-Sedge and Mirfield) which I would imagine is a large population area that would increase revenue for the company. It would make it easier than having to travel into Leeds on a cramped Pacer and then change to the (often expensive) East Coast service.
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 11, 2010 13:21:06 GMT 1
There was a brief piece in the latest Railway Herald online magazine that stated Grand Central are in discussions with Network Rail and the Dewsbury MP to get a stop in Mirfield. As the service travels through Mirfield this would make sense, but I guess it depends on the other trains that need access immediately after the Grand Central service. Mirfield could handle passengers from the whole of North Kirklees (Dewsbury, Batley, Cleck-Heckmond-Sedge and Mirfield) which I would imagine is a large population area that would increase revenue for the company. It would make it easier than having to travel into Leeds on a cramped Pacer and then change to the (often expensive) East Coast service. You forgot to mention that East Coast is quicker. If you book early you can good deals on East Coast. London and back for the cricket at the end of the month £53.
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Post by angrycommuter on Aug 11, 2010 13:57:11 GMT 1
There was a brief piece in the latest Railway Herald online magazine that stated Grand Central are in discussions with Network Rail and the Dewsbury MP to get a stop in Mirfield. As the service travels through Mirfield this would make sense, but I guess it depends on the other trains that need access immediately after the Grand Central service. Mirfield could handle passengers from the whole of North Kirklees (Dewsbury, Batley, Cleck-Heckmond-Sedge and Mirfield) which I would imagine is a large population area that would increase revenue for the company. It would make it easier than having to travel into Leeds on a cramped Pacer and then change to the (often expensive) East Coast service. You forgot to mention that East Coast is quicker. If you book early you can good deals on East Coast. London and back for the cricket at the end of the month £53. Yes, if you measure the time from the timetable and find one of the hidden "value" offerings, but you still either have to pay to get to Leeds or Wakefield by train or bus or car (at least £4 by bus, up to £12 for parking + petrol on top) and consider the time it takes to get to these places. Mirfield to Leeds is 30 minutes by train + at least 10 minutes for connection. You also need 30 minutes to get to Wakefield Westgate by train. By car it could be quicker, but you have to park miles away from the station or pay a large fee. Bus is cheapest but can take over 90 minutes to Leeds from Mirfield and over an hour to Wakefield. I know I would prefer to get a direct train and their peak services are far, far cheaper than East Coast. Plus the standard of customer service is much better on Grand Central. In relation to Mirfield in general; this used to be an extremely busy junction with services to many places throughout the country. It would be good to get an increase in services to stop there. Hopefully with the proposed re-timetabling of Transpennine, one of the "slow" airport services could stop there each hour.
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 11, 2010 20:18:32 GMT 1
With the timings of their trains in and out of London they are hardly going to appeal to the business community.
Any appointment which runs after 2:00pm and it's going to be a long day.
One second thought is there a car park at Mirfield Station?
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Post by SF07 on Aug 11, 2010 22:39:19 GMT 1
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 12, 2010 7:35:54 GMT 1
Doesn't look like a customer friendly station, and it appears it would require a significent upgrade to support any Grand Central service
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 12, 2010 11:32:20 GMT 1
I would say Mirfield's no worse than WakefieldKirkgate or Pontefract Monkhill. Numbers using in the past prob haven't justified better facilities. (Other stations in the area are on a bus route) Btw I presume Monkhill was chosen as being convenient for connections to Cas, I think Tanshelf is closer to Ponte centre.
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 12, 2010 13:36:05 GMT 1
I would say Mirfield's no worse than WakefieldKirkgate or Pontefract Monkhill. Numbers using in the past prob haven't justified better facilities. (Other stations in the area are on a bus route) Btw I presume Monkhill was chosen as being convenient for connections to Cas, I think Tanshelf is closer to Ponte centre. Nothing can be worse than Wakefield Kirkgate but I use Westgate for London
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Post by SF07 on Aug 12, 2010 15:00:36 GMT 1
I would say Mirfield's no worse than WakefieldKirkgate or Pontefract Monkhill. Numbers using in the past prob haven't justified better facilities. (Other stations in the area are on a bus route) Btw I presume Monkhill was chosen as being convenient for connections to Cas, I think Tanshelf is closer to Ponte centre. I'd assume so. In their timetable, Grand Central says the West Riding service "connects....Huddersfield (via Brighouse)". By stopping at Pontefract Monkhill, passengers can change there to travel to Castleford via Glasshoughton. They do it on the North Eastern route. Eaglescliffe is used for connections to Middlesbrough. York can used for connections to Harrogate and I think they did say Leeds too before the West Riding route.
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