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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 16, 2007 21:01:48 GMT 1
Can anyone think of any bus routes that have to be run by single deckers due to low bridges along the route
Some that spring to mind are
Service 262 due to a low bridge at Mirfield Service 528 due to a low bridge at Littlebrough Services 909 & MC4 due to a bridge at Elland
Any others?
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Post by Craig on Sept 16, 2007 22:11:34 GMT 1
There is the Woodlesford railway bridge (services 9, 167/168/169, 173/174/175).
Also at Henconner Lane (services 67 and 86 evening/Sundays), which has several times been hit by double-deckers as its so close to the Bramley depot (i.e. with buses running light to/from the garage).
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Post by kendall17 on Sept 16, 2007 22:15:23 GMT 1
henconner lane... the bridge is 13ft 3 or something, my dads merc touro is 13ft 4 and it fits under lmao,
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Post by jackh on Sept 17, 2007 8:52:19 GMT 1
Well on Henconner Lane, all the buses exiting Bramley depot have to turn left and go towards Stanningley Road.
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Post by MT on Sept 17, 2007 19:15:00 GMT 1
Is that Bridge at Elland you mentioned, is that the one on Whitehall Road? That bridge is 14'7 and I know Arriva have a route through there. I know a some deckers wouldn't fit under it. Also, at the bottom of Richardshaw Lane, Stanningley. That railway viaduct has deckers running under it regularly, but they come close to the top! A bit too close to the path, and there would be a problem. Its the same where the same railway line goes over Swinnow lane. Deckers would for sure hit that if they went near the path. Personally this is partly the reason I like the low height Olympians (ECW). They are about 13'5, compared to the usual 14'6
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Post by jackh on Sept 17, 2007 19:19:46 GMT 1
Yes the 278 goes under the rail bridge.
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Post by jabbott1987 on Sept 17, 2007 19:39:14 GMT 1
The 845 & X45 just go under a bridge just outside Humanby, the 840 used to go under a low bridge until they changed the route.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 17, 2007 20:27:18 GMT 1
Is that Bridge at Elland you mentioned, is that the one on Whitehall Road? That bridge is 14'7 and I know Arriva have a route through there. I know a some deckers wouldn't fit under it. Also, at the bottom of Richardshaw Lane, Stanningley. That railway viaduct has deckers running under it regularly, but they come close to the top! A bit too close to the path, and there would be a problem. Its the same where the same railway line goes over Swinnow lane. Deckers would for sure hit that if they went near the path. Personally this is partly the reason I like the low height Olympians (ECW). They are about 13'5, compared to the usual 14'6 The bridge in Elland is the one on Park Road in Elland. The 279 used to go that way until it was axed. Now only the 909, MC4 and X79 go this way There is also a bridge in Brighouse that is slightly low. The 225, 278, 548/9, 570 goes under it. It used to be high enough for Leyland Fleetlines and the low height NC Olympians but since First Calderline started running Royales (and now Geminis), all double decks are banned from this route
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Post by ratty on Sept 25, 2012 1:53:43 GMT 1
Just messing about and found this thread. The bridge mentioned at Scotty Bank at Brighouse, going by my 1990 staff handbook was 14'9''. However, I think you will find that when the Volvos 1001-30 arrived, those routes were converted to Sd, to enable the bridge to become less dangerous. This is because the PTE painted two squares on the left hand carriageway heading out of Brighouse, and ANY DD had to be driven to the right of these squares. You were then on the wrong side of the road heading for a blind corner!!!!! Another bridge worth mentioning in Calderdale is the railway bridge at Cornholme on the way to Burnley, again if in a DD you have to pull out in to the middle of the road, but with an SD you are pretty safe.
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Post by northrob on Sept 25, 2012 9:42:04 GMT 1
Over here in York, following routes all use Leeman Road and so need to be a single decker:
First: 2 & 5 Transdev: 24, 26 & 112 Stephensons: 29 & 31 Reliance: 30
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Post by Danny on Sept 25, 2012 10:36:47 GMT 1
542 - Halifax to Siddal, Water Lane - 13'6
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Post by ratty on Sept 25, 2012 10:59:08 GMT 1
Forgotten about that one Danny, in my day NO buses went down Water Lane, if you were on the Mackintosh's lunch time special into town, you had to go via Bailey Hall, and do a u-turn in the junction at Stoney Royd. The service bus at that time was linked to the Pavement Lane services 521/3,and had to go via Bailey Hall because they were DD.
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Post by Burnside on Sept 25, 2012 14:03:44 GMT 1
Wheatley Lane at Ben Rydding is 11ft something.
Only services routed that way are 962/963 (Solo's) and X52 (Scania Single Deckers or 'Felix', the ex-Felix ALX300 bodied B10BLE of ConnexionsBuses).
Rail Replacement coaches when trains are up the spout are routed along Valley Drive to avoid it.
That said, when the 963 was still W5 and First Bradford operated evening journeys, i saw a Northern Counties bodied Volvo Olympian on the first Ilkley - Bradford run a number of times.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 25, 2012 16:06:49 GMT 1
The old 592 Halifax - Todmorden - Burnley used to be run by Low Bridge Leyland Olympian Northern Counties Palatine 1's. Low bridge before turning right onto Todmorden road into Burnley. But now they go up Mount Lane so Gemini's and other HighBridge buses can get to Burnley. Mind you, it has been running the current route for atleast 20 years.
Like whats been said before, now the low bridge in Cornholme on the 592, In a Gemini or any other highbridge decker it is quite close. The railway bridge just out side Hebden Bridge are tall but on a decker you get very close to the lower arch of the bridge as it is on a curve in the road.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 25, 2012 17:57:48 GMT 1
Forgotten about that one Danny, in my day NO buses went down Water Lane, if you were on the Mackintosh's lunch time special into town, you had to go via Bailey Hall, and do a u-turn in the junction at Stoney Royd. The service bus at that time was linked to the Pavement Lane services 521/3,and had to go via Bailey Hall because they were DD. I remember when the Siddal bus was the 521/3, typically run by Fleetlines in the 90s. At first only TJ Walsh went via Water Lane as a faster route to Siddal, which was then also joined by Calderline's competitive service and then eventually the full Siddal service.
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Post by chrisboy96 on Sept 25, 2012 19:08:50 GMT 1
First Leeds route 5 at Neville Hill has to be run by single deckers. Modern taller deckers can't fit apparently.
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Post by ratty on Sept 25, 2012 20:14:26 GMT 1
The bridge that jjm2914 is on about at Cliviger is actually plated at 14'6'', and buses were allowed under there, as he says the 592 went that way. It was diverted when the Burnley area had some service revisions just over 20 years ago, and indeed, you did actually pick more people up. Unless the road at Cliviger has been resurfaced in the last 3 years, you can get a Leyland Olympian/Roe bodied bus under it. Its the way I came with Blackpool 366(ex5011) to the Elland Road Rally!!! Just looked at my staff handbook from 1990, and we did not go through Mereclough then, we used said bridge.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 25, 2012 21:21:20 GMT 1
The bridge that jjm2914 is on about at Cliviger is actually plated at 14'6'', and buses were allowed under there, as he says the 592 went that way. It was diverted when the Burnley area had some service revisions just over 20 years ago, and indeed, you did actually pick more people up. Unless the road at Cliviger has been resurfaced in the last 3 years, you can get a Leyland Olympian/Roe bodied bus under it. Its the way I came with Blackpool 366(ex5011) to the Elland Road Rally!!! Just looked at my staff handbook from 1990, and we did not go through Mereclough then, we used said bridge. Of course hahah. I think it seems closer due to the wide angle the arch is. Say the one on the "Smelly Mile" outside Elland on the 503 route is quite a narrow road so seems a tad higher that it actually is :-)
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Post by stevieinselby on Sept 25, 2012 22:17:02 GMT 1
Over here in York, following routes all use Leeman Road and so need to be a single decker: First: 2 & 5 Transdev: 24, 26 & 112 Stephensons: 29 & 31 Reliance: 30 Not to mention the Arriva 42 through Naburn. The only other routes from York that I can think of that need to be single-decker are: Stephensons 181 (Castle Howard) Dalesbus 800, 883/884 (Bolton Abbey) There used to be low bridge restrictions at Goathland and Walmgate Bar, but changes to routes and road layouts have obviated these.
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Post by busman3 on Sept 25, 2012 23:30:03 GMT 1
I can remember doing a depot visit to the depot which was in the town centre of Leeds in pte days they had a fairly big board with pics of all low bridges and details of what couldnt go under them
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Post by jack97 on Sept 26, 2012 15:52:15 GMT 1
bradford traveller 5601 L601PWR had a nasty accident down a street close to bowling back lane, it's roof got mashed, lucky there was no-one on board as the driver was taking a short cut back to the depot!!!
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Post by ratty on Sept 26, 2012 16:30:59 GMT 1
Same with Water Lane at Halifax, a 7*** Fleetline was taken under the bridge, and the driver thought he had got away with it, because the bus was intact. However, he did not take into account the upper deck grab rails penetrating the top deck floor/lower deck ceiling!!!!!!! Got to admit, it WAS NOT me, but it did look a very professional job, not a broken window/bent panel anywhere.
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Post by 29721 on Sept 26, 2012 22:38:26 GMT 1
Arriva 194 Wakefield-Barnsley, low bridge at Royston, 11ft 3 i believe, seen one or two Tracky buses fall victim in past.
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Post by Matty on Sept 26, 2012 23:51:24 GMT 1
One at Copley on the 531 route, it currently has Solos going under it but deckers used to go under and with it been an arch bridge on a sharp corner buses used to scrape the corners of the roofs.
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Post by ratty on Sept 27, 2012 0:56:40 GMT 1
Dear me I must be getting on a bit now, because I had forgotten about that one too. Should have remembered it I used to play cricket for Copley u-18's, so have passed it many a time. It became double deck on 26/10/86, it had been single deck up till then, ex Halifax 3001-10 were mainstays on there. Mind you to be fair its 35+years since I played cricket there, but i can remember who drove the 0515 Halifax to Copley on Monday 27/10/86, me, and I think the bus was 6053 from memory.
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