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Post by northrob on Aug 12, 2009 17:24:46 GMT 1
Ryanair have announced that it will base two of it's aircraft and start 14 new routes from Leeds/Bradford from March 2010.
The new destinations will be as follows:
Carcassonne Faro Ibiza Knock Krakow Limoges Malaga Malta Montpellier Murcia Nantes Palma Pisa Venice Treviso
Am I right in thinking that some of these are existing Jet2 routes?
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Post by nick on Aug 12, 2009 18:16:18 GMT 1
Most are Jet2 routes a few new routes for LBA -MLA, Krakow, Knock and the top one.
Good for LBA and that is it.
Several things wrong. First of all where did MOL get his "1000" jobs. Did he accidently forget what a cheap scape he is? Wanted the media to massage his already massive big head and HUGE ego. 1000 jobs more like around 300. There is no check in staff (cause he decided you can’t use them and to increase profits you now pay to check in online), and probably be only ONE check in desk to drop the bags off (not that many people will).
2ndly, 1000 jobs for 2 a/c. Yeah and pigs might fly. 2 a/c won’t require 1000 staff. He will contract the dispatch (i would imagine anyway) out to the current holder at LBA, which wont create any extra jobs or maybe just a few 10 lets say. Gate staff will be provided by the agent.
Around 5 check in people (well drop off baggage people), and 5 on the ticket desks to deal with the passenger’s who complain (i would imagine every single one of them). 20 to 40 pilots for the 2 a/c (because DUB, ALC and BCN-100 miles east will be operated by there crew and i think some route will operate on a W pattern with LBA flights in the pattern so DUB-LBA-FAO-LBA-DUB for example) and around 60 to 100 cabin crew.
My maths 10 (agent not FYR) + 30 (average pilots) + 80 (cabin crew)= 120. Not a thousand i think MOL forgot to knock a 0 off.
What annoys me is, why didn’t he negotiate a deal with MME. They are crying out loud of a Schedule LCC and him building a Base up there would get my absolute applause, good on the man put an Airport on the map. The east Yorkshire folk would use FR service from MME then travel over to LBA to use LS, which would effect LS but not that bad. No he decides to come to LBA and totally retract back at MME (how many services does that airport have). It would be nice to see a MME (FR) vs LBA (LS) battle but now we are going to have it in one airport between David and Goliath.
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 13, 2009 9:18:59 GMT 1
Sadly, they've missed a trick for the rugby fans and picked Carcassone and Montpellier for the SW France airports they'll serve from Leeds (as opposed to Perpignan), but still close enough to make them viable options as an alternative to Girona for Catalans game next season.
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Post by northerner on Aug 13, 2009 9:51:44 GMT 1
I'm surprised they are no German routes mentioned - LBA is lacking flights to Germany (I think the Jet2 Dussledorf is the only one.) I remember a while ago reaading that the airport management were wanting flights to Frankfurt and Berlin - both places Ryanair almost fly to. I think they would be better trying them routes out rather than cherry picking Jet2 routes. Although thinking about it, certainly with Venice, Jet2 fly to the main airport, Ryanair probably land somehwere near Rome so I'd imagine most people would pay more to fly to where they want to be and not some remote little airport 50 miles out
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Post by nick on Aug 13, 2009 11:12:35 GMT 1
Thats what i was thinking. Both airlines will be able to co-operate with each other because FR will be able to do the main City Pairs along with a few bucket & spade routes where demand is high (PMI, AGP, ALC) and some people have villas out there.
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Post by northerner on Aug 13, 2009 11:22:49 GMT 1
Something else to consider is that Jet2 sell a lot of package holidays which sells a lot of seats on the ALC, AGP, PMI, FAO etc, which is an advantage they have over Ryanair.
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Post by tommyinyork on Aug 15, 2009 19:43:26 GMT 1
JET2 over Ryanair any day, much cheaper anyway.
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Post by jack97 on Aug 16, 2009 1:03:54 GMT 1
its great news for an ever expanding lbia, keep it up!!!!!
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Post by nick on Aug 16, 2009 10:29:52 GMT 1
JET2 over Ryanair any day, much cheaper anyway. Yes i agree LS>FR anyday of the week. Jet2 cheaper than ryanair. Well your quite wrong. Ryanair are the cheapest in the business. Do a comparison for next may sometime between Leeds and palma, faro, alicante anywhere were Jet2 fly, (for 1 pax) and you will see that FR will also come out on cheapest (despite the actual sneaky add ons). But this is with out going through to see what FR add on when paying by credit card (i think they charge £6 or something per person on a credit card, and jet 2 its something like £7 thats it).
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Post by lysander on Aug 17, 2009 18:57:42 GMT 1
I am a new member who regrets that his "local" airport ,DSA ,is so dull that the cleaning of its loos makes news! Back to topic . In todays YP O Reilly is quoted as saying Jet2 should"stop moaning and start competing".
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Post by lysander on Aug 18, 2009 12:05:54 GMT 1
In todays YP the announcement is made of MAN virtually losing all of its Ryanair services from 1st October. The loss of 600, 000 passengers and 44 weekly flights is as a result of MAN refusing to lower its charge of £3.00 per passenger. A LBA spokesman was optimistic that extra flights would be coming LBAs way as a result of it being a base!
Ryanair, interestingly, estimate that for every 100,000 passengers carried equates to 100 local jobs. ...although only 100 will be directly employed by them at LBA.
Source : Yorkshire Post 18th Aug 09....page 5
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Post by Jack on Aug 18, 2009 19:20:05 GMT 1
It appears that Ryanair is looking to operate as many services from airports that don't charge as much taxes hence why Leeds Bradford and John Lennon seem to be favoured where they have lower taxes. They seem to gain their revenue through retail and airport parking fees.
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Post by northerner on Aug 18, 2009 19:43:16 GMT 1
That's Ryanair's business model, bargain with airports to get the lowest possible price, then pass on those savings to the passengers. I'm wondering if Ryanair were given more favourable terms at LBA than Jet2 currently get
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Post by lysander on Aug 19, 2009 18:13:32 GMT 1
They also stated that EMA ( which is a part of MAG) offered a better deal.
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Post by glennh2 on Sept 1, 2009 23:15:59 GMT 1
Not a great fan of Ryanair after missing a flight at Stansted in Oct 2007 due to being stuck in queues for 5 hours that they seemed incapable of coping with
Hopefully the base at LBIA will be better organised
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Post by lysander on Sept 3, 2009 10:30:42 GMT 1
I really dont know too many people who would fly by Ryanair given another, equal ,choice. But they have been hugely succesful, which must prove the point that its "results that count".
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Post by beastexpress on Jan 7, 2011 11:14:49 GMT 1
Looks like the summer Carcassone route is to be axed.
Any one any news on why this is happening?
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Post by rossbailey on Jan 7, 2011 13:36:36 GMT 1
Hi Ryanair base 2z Boeing 737-800's at LBA this summer 2011 season operating as follows
Mondays Dublin x2, Gdansk, Murcia, Fuerteventura, Malaga, Dusseldorf-Weeze, Faro, Alicante
Tuesdays Nantes, Venice-Treviso, Ibiza, Krakow, Knock, Malaga, Alicante, Pisa-Florence, Dublin x2, Arrecife-Lanzarote
Wednesdays Montpellier, Limoges, Malaga, Palma, Murcia, Barcelona, Dublin x2, Dusseldorf-Weeze, Faro, Alicante
Thursdays Krakow, Knock, Malaga, Dublin x2, Palma, Malta, Alicante, Pisa-Florence
Fridays Dublin x2, Gdansk, Murcia, Fuerteventura, Malaga, Barcelona, Faro, Dusseldorf-Weeze, Alicante
Saturdays Nantes, Venice-Treviso, Malaga, Palma, Knock, Ibiza, Alicante, Pisa-Florence, Dublin, Arrecife-Lanzarote, Faro
Sundays Alicante, Montpellier, Limoges, Krakow, Palma, Malta, Barcelona, Faro, Dublin x2
Hope that helps
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Post by fwybuses on Jan 7, 2011 19:02:00 GMT 1
They say basing but how many actually will overnight. W patterns work quite well for this company. W means going out to lets say faro, then to leeds, back and to where it came from. So while they all look good saying "where creating jobs" ... in reality they are but in another part of the UK or even europe.
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 7, 2011 20:11:54 GMT 1
Looks like the summer Carcassone route is to be axed. Poor rugby fans! Thats p*ssed me off, was planning on a cheap trip to Catalans away on Ryanair's Carcassone!
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Post by rossbailey on Jan 22, 2011 15:28:12 GMT 1
2 x ryanair, Boeing 737-800's Aircraft are fully based and operational out of LBA with each aircraft operating between 6 to 8 flights a day each (3/4 return sectors). A full compliment of flight and Cabin crews are also based at LBA..
LBA aircraft do no w-legs all services are return sectors only. We do have aircraft coming in from other Ryanair european bases thought which is between 3 and 4 flights a day in the summer season,
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Post by rossbailey on Feb 15, 2011 17:54:55 GMT 1
Ryanair will now fly daily between Leeds and Alicante from April.
The airline has comfirmed that it's looking to expand its operations out of LBA next year 2012.
They intend launching several new routes and adding a 3rd based Boeing 737-800 aircraft to its LBA operation.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Feb 16, 2011 0:12:00 GMT 1
Slight reduction on the LBA - Italy (Pisa or Treviso) routes. These will not operate on Thurs (only Tue and Sat).
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Post by rossbailey on Feb 16, 2011 13:00:36 GMT 1
I can tell you that the Thursday ryanair service to Pisa-Florence has now in fact been reinstated from April 14th 2011.
Yes the Thursday Venice-Treviso flight has been dropped for now but could make a return if booking do improve.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Feb 17, 2011 1:44:37 GMT 1
Thanks. Also note the LBA - Venice/Treviso will divert to Venice/Marco Polo for a few months this summer from 4 June.
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