hstjohnny
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Post by hstjohnny on Jan 4, 2024 22:12:29 GMT 1
Circulating on Socials that Bradford Interchange is to close until Further Notice tonight due to structural issues with the concourse
Buses will use the first stop after the Interchange for their terminus. Presumably Nat Ex/Megabus/Flixbus will use Nelson Street
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 4, 2024 23:20:46 GMT 1
Unless it’s changed in recent weeks coaches are still out on Nelson Street due to the never ending carriageway resurfacing project
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 4, 2024 23:21:23 GMT 1
Circulating on Socials that Bradford Interchange is to close until Further Notice tonight due to structural issues with the concourse Buses will use the first stop after the Interchange for their terminus. Presumably Nat Ex/Megabus/Flixbus will use Hall Ings Buses are expected to use their current route, picking up at all stops except Bradford Interchange. Some changes to setting-down points for Keighley buses, these will not use S7 or W4, with the 662/A3 using their new route via Manor Row. Coaches currently use Nelson Street anyway.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Jan 4, 2024 23:51:49 GMT 1
Screenshot of Metro's Temporary stands for Bradford, going to be fun on Nelson Street with 7 services using the one shelter
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Post by pricel on Jan 5, 2024 0:24:41 GMT 1
Circulating on Socials that Bradford Interchange is to close until Further Notice tonight due to structural issues with the concourse Buses will use the first stop after the Interchange for their terminus. Presumably Nat Ex/Megabus/Flixbus will use Nelson Street X63 better get trekking to Mayo Avenue then lol
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Post by pricel on Jan 5, 2024 0:25:21 GMT 1
Screenshot of Metro's Temporary stands for Bradford, going to be fun on Nelson Street with 7 services using the one shelter Also 671 doesn't seem to exist.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 5, 2024 0:31:51 GMT 1
Of course, this is rubbish as stop H11 is currently oou and several services such as 615 are currently routed away from Jacobs Well/Nelson Street? Don't even think 613 even goes that way?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 5, 2024 10:30:08 GMT 1
Of course, this is rubbish as stop H11 is currently oou and several services such as 615 are currently routed away from Jacobs Well/Nelson Street? Don't even think 613 even goes that way? I get the feeling the list already existed to be rolled out in the event of an emergency closure, as like you say it doesn’t take into account the current city centre roadworks and is sending buses towards the congestion unnecessarily. It’d probably make more sense for the 425/283 for example to use Hall Ings near the former Debenhams rather than getting involved in the Manchester Road traffic congestion to use Nelson Street
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Post by joshben on Jan 5, 2024 20:33:46 GMT 1
Of course, this is rubbish as stop H11 is currently oou and several services such as 615 are currently routed away from Jacobs Well/Nelson Street? Don't even think 613 even goes that way? I get the feeling the list already existed to be rolled out in the event of an emergency closure, as like you say it doesn’t take into account the current city centre roadworks and is sending buses towards the congestion unnecessarily. It’d probably make more sense for the 425/283 for example to use Hall Ings near the former Debenhams rather than getting involved in the Manchester Road traffic congestion to use Nelson Street 425 running past interchange, left onto Hall Ings and left onto Nelson St. Leaving Nelson Street, turns left onto Croft street, following that round to Wakefield Rd to continue normal route
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 5, 2024 20:53:19 GMT 1
They are being very vague about what the damage is, almost like they are hiding something such as how long it will take to fix
Is it wind related or water related I wonder?
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Post by jst on Jan 5, 2024 22:09:57 GMT 1
They are being very vague about what the damage is, almost like they are hiding something such as how long it will take to fix Is it wind related or water related I wonder? I believe the latter and it may be related to the works that have gone on over the last few months.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Jan 5, 2024 22:17:28 GMT 1
I get the feeling the list already existed to be rolled out in the event of an emergency closure, as like you say it doesn’t take into account the current city centre roadworks and is sending buses towards the congestion unnecessarily. It’d probably make more sense for the 425/283 for example to use Hall Ings near the former Debenhams rather than getting involved in the Manchester Road traffic congestion to use Nelson Street 425 running past interchange, left onto Hall Ings and left onto Nelson St. Leaving Nelson Street, turns left onto Croft street, following that round to Wakefield Rd to continue normal route Officially Josh, 425 should turn left off Wakefield Road onto Croft Street then right on Nelson Street N1 shelter, then left Hall Ings, left Manchester Road, left Croft Street back on route, to leave just coaches on opposite side of Nelson Street
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 6, 2024 0:08:36 GMT 1
I get the feeling the list already existed to be rolled out in the event of an emergency closure, as like you say it doesn’t take into account the current city centre roadworks and is sending buses towards the congestion unnecessarily. It’d probably make more sense for the 425/283 for example to use Hall Ings near the former Debenhams rather than getting involved in the Manchester Road traffic congestion to use Nelson Street 425 running past interchange, left onto Hall Ings and left onto Nelson St. Leaving Nelson Street, turns left onto Croft street, following that round to Wakefield Rd to continue normal route Looking at bustimes tracking, other services seem to have been doing the same, using the right Street as a terminus but not necessarily in the right direction 🤔 (as Eric Morecambe might have said... 😆 )
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Post by joseph on Jan 6, 2024 6:17:40 GMT 1
Personally, I hope the entire interchange collapses onto the car park below (obviously overnight when nobody is using it and it's closed off with none of the surrounding buildings affected) and that'll teach WYCA (and it's predessor) for allowing a heavy building to be built on top of a void in the ground. WYCA have for years known the carriageway is ready for collapsing into the car park (hence the endless repairs, there must be at least 20 of some kind since it was built) so it must be the case the building is ready to do so as well. That car park ex depot space should have been filled in before the new bus station was built, but nope, stupid councillors thinking of the money they'd make selling it. It's always been known for years that councillors, MPs etc are just all leaches that hide stuff to save their own back, not cause any trouble for themselves or the party they represent, now I'm not saying it is in danger of collapse as I have no proof but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it turned out it is and they knew it's is in danger of collapse.
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Post by pjb on Jan 6, 2024 11:48:55 GMT 1
Personally, I hope the entire interchange collapses onto the car park below (obviously overnight when nobody is using it and it's closed off with none of the surrounding buildings affected) and that'll teach WYCA (and it's predessor) for allowing a heavy building to be built on top of a void in the ground. WYCA have for years known the carriageway is ready for collapsing into the car park (hence the endless repairs, there must be at least 20 of some kind since it was built) so it must be the case the building is ready to do so as well. That car park ex depot space should have been filled in before the new bus station was built, but nope, stupid councillors thinking of the money they'd make selling it. It's always been known for years that councillors, MPs etc are just all leaches that hide stuff to save their own back, not cause any trouble for themselves or the party they represent, now I'm not saying it is in danger of collapse as I have no proof but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it turned out it is and they knew it's is in danger of collapse. I’m not sure that’s correct. I remember reading that when the structure was surveyed prior to the current surfacing it was found the structure was sound and ok. Which is why they gave the go ahead for the latest works. The tarmac keeps lifting as it’s sat on the concrete structure which it doesn’t stick to well and the patch repairs over the years were causing water ingress so they finally had to plan to do the proper substantial repairs rather than endless patches. Of course this could have been avoided by leaving the original overall roof in position and rebuilding the concourse beneath it rather than taking the roof down which left the carriageway and concourse exposed to the elements. If the reason for closure is the 2001ish concourse then the materials used at the time obviously wernt up to scratch and the 1970s concourse whilst tired in places has much more stood the test of time.
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Post by deerfold on Jan 6, 2024 16:48:26 GMT 1
Personally, I hope the entire interchange collapses onto the car park below (obviously overnight when nobody is using it and it's closed off with none of the surrounding buildings affected) and that'll teach WYCA (and it's predessor) for allowing a heavy building to be built on top of a void in the ground. WYCA have for years known the carriageway is ready for collapsing into the car park (hence the endless repairs, there must be at least 20 of some kind since it was built) so it must be the case the building is ready to do so as well. That car park ex depot space should have been filled in before the new bus station was built, but nope, stupid councillors thinking of the money they'd make selling it. It's always been known for years that councillors, MPs etc are just all leaches that hide stuff to save their own back, not cause any trouble for themselves or the party they represent, now I'm not saying it is in danger of collapse as I have no proof but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it turned out it is and they knew it's is in danger of collapse. That seems a bit rough on people wanting it to reopen so they can use it.
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 6, 2024 20:12:11 GMT 1
First are saying the damage is weather related.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 9, 2024 19:18:59 GMT 1
It’s not been mentioned here but Jacobs Well public car park has been taken over so it can be used for bus and coach layover.
Nelson Street N1 isn’t actually accessible at the moment as it’s obstructed by road works, so passengers are having to use a temporary stop further along the street with no weather protection
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Post by stantheman on Jan 10, 2024 0:43:34 GMT 1
Not sure it is weather related as there was a big gap between the strong winds and the closure coming into effect. But what do I know?!
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 10, 2024 6:51:47 GMT 1
RAAC would be my vote
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Post by WYBS on Jan 10, 2024 11:47:15 GMT 1
After reading a few comments on Facebook from people who used to work in the bingo hall below the interchange, I reckon it's something far more serious than just a bit of wind and rain damage to the roof.
Ex-bingo staff describing how parts of the ceiling used to collapse regularly, and even how a car got smashed up from falling debris in the car park.
Of course, take everything on Facebook with a pinch of salt, but I am leaning towards thinking it may be a demolition job.
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Post by joseph on Jan 10, 2024 19:41:56 GMT 1
WYCA are keeping very quiet, I have to wonder why? What do they know that is already known by some not connected in any way to WYCA? I wouldn't take the damage to cars in the car park below with a pinch of salt, not the ceiling collapsing, I have no proof what so ever but that building should not have been built on top of a void but hey ho, money first is the saying of many a bad councillor, and there have been many over the years, not just the current lot. The fact the tarmac keeps collapsing needing frequent repairs, far more than any other bus station should tell you a lot.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 10, 2024 19:51:30 GMT 1
My theory is either when the resurfacing work was taking place the contractor didn’t ensure the structure remained watertight so there was water ingress during the works, or alternatively the final product wasn’t up toe scratch so has allowed water ingress.
I’d fully expect it is the 1970s structure that is the problem not the 2000s structure. The fact the entire building is out of bounds meaning WHSmith and Greggs is closed and you have to access the railway station from the path outside suggests the concourse is also compromised
Market Street was pretty congested when I went past earlier. It’s only wide for three buses abreast, so when buses are parked on both sides, only one way can move at once, and that assumes the buses are parked up tightly. Could be worse though imagine if this had all happened after Market Street had been pedestrianised
My theory why WYCA are so quiet is that they know the repair works will take a long time and be very costly. It also blows apart Bradford Council’s city centre pedestrianisation scheme and the demolition of the multi story car park to allow a better entrance to the Interchange.
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Post by jst on Jan 10, 2024 19:59:08 GMT 1
My theory is either when the resurfacing work was taking place the contractor didn’t ensure the structure remained watertight so there was water ingress during the works, or alternatively the final product wasn’t up toe scratch so has allowed water ingress. My theory why WYCA are so quiet is that they know the repair works will take a long time and be very costly. It also blows apart Bradford Council’s city centre pedestrianisation scheme and the demolition of the multi story car park to allow a better entrance to the Interchange. From what I've heard I think you're on the money with this. With Bradford 2025 on the horizon this is potentially tricky.
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Post by yorkslad on Jan 11, 2024 22:20:48 GMT 1
Of course, they could be keeping quiet while they fully investigate the extent of any damage, the likely cost and the time it would take to put right before telling anyone.
Just a thought.
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