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Post by dlspotter on Sept 13, 2020 19:52:18 GMT 1
Hi there just thought that the forum could use a general Dalesbus thread to discuss all things dalesbus, especially now they have returned to start serving West Yorkshire again with the 874 and 875 back for the next four weeks.
Took both these buses today, 874 was on 1456 and 875 on 1576. 874 had five pax including myself at Leeds, but 875 seemed very busy from Ilkley.
I wonder if 874 (or even 875 as they have now slightly switched routes) may continue through the winter like normal, or if they don't anticipate demand.
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Post by adam on Sept 13, 2020 20:53:50 GMT 1
Is the 875 going to be a double every week?
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Post by dlspotter on Sept 13, 2020 22:33:00 GMT 1
Is the 875 going to be a double every week? For the time being I believe so, and given how busy it was today I think it needs one in order to comply with regulations |
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Post by humberside on Sept 14, 2020 18:12:12 GMT 1
Hi there just thought that the forum could use a general Dalesbus thread to discuss all things dalesbus, especially now they have returned to start serving West Yorkshire again I guess you were referring to serving Wakefield, Leeds etc again, but the 873/884 services between Ilkley and Skipton restarted in July (on what I think is the normal winter timetable?) |
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Post by Burnside on Sept 14, 2020 20:52:40 GMT 1
From what i understand, the 874 and 875 are advertised as running until late October. Can't see them continuing through the winter, as they don't normally and i can't see DalesBus having the money to fund them to do so.
As stated above, the Cravenlink routes are essentially running a winter service since their resumption, which, along with Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire's Saturday service 75 not operating has meant a vastly reduced service for Malham.
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Post by dlspotter on Sept 14, 2020 22:31:41 GMT 1
From what i understand, the 874 and 875 are advertised as running until late October. Can't see them continuing through the winter, as they don't normally and i can't see DalesBus having the money to fund them to do so. The 874 does regularly run through the winter as I recall seeing it being driven by a driver in a Santa costume once in the not distant past. I however can't imagine it will this year. |
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Post by rwilkes on Sept 15, 2020 10:26:12 GMT 1
Dalesbus could run more buses with more donations. Are you willing to help?
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Post by stevieinselby on Sept 15, 2020 13:03:56 GMT 1
From what i understand, the 874 and 875 are advertised as running until late October. Can't see them continuing through the winter, as they don't normally and i can't see DalesBus having the money to fund them to do so. As stated above, the Cravenlink routes are essentially running a winter service since their resumption, which, along with Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire's Saturday service 75 not operating has meant a vastly reduced service for Malham. The 874 has run all year round, two journeys each way every Sunday between Ilkley, Grassington and Buckden, since 2008 (I believe it started at the same time as Cravenlink, which was in response to First cancelling the X84 between Ilkley and Skipton on Sundays). It is the additional journeys running through to Hawes that are summer-only. |
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Post by adam on Sept 15, 2020 14:48:34 GMT 1
What does the 875 do at Hawes between the arrival from Wakefield and departing back to Wakefield
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Post by deerfold on Sept 15, 2020 16:48:51 GMT 1
What does the 875 do at Hawes between the arrival from Wakefield and departing back to Wakefield Given the driver does over 7 hours driving on the 875, I doubt they do anything other than stay there. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Sept 15, 2020 17:27:02 GMT 1
What does the 875 do at Hawes between the arrival from Wakefield and departing back to Wakefield Have a lunch break! Looking at last year's summer timetable, as well as the two 874 journeys that run all-year round, there were two journeys running as 875. - One of them ran from Wakefield to Ilkley, then via the main roads to Grassington and on to Hawes, arriving 1230. It then paused for an hour, did a return to Ribblehead and Settle as 831, with a 1h40 rest, before returning to Hawes at 1640 and continuing straight through to run back to Wakefield via Bolton Abbey (so couldn't use a double-decker). From Settle to Wakefield is about 4h00. - One of them ran from Selby and York as 822 via Fountains Abbey to Grassington, and then as 875 from there to Hawes, arriving 1310, and returning at 1440 (usually using a double-decker). From Selby to Hawes is 4h20. |
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Post by adam on Sept 15, 2020 19:51:53 GMT 1
I knew they did other bits in between sometimes like the 874 does an Ilkley and back in between the Wakefield bits and I thought the 875 did a Settle bit but couldn't find anything that matched up.
I was looking to just go 1 way and to Hawes and was looking for a way back possibly by train and if it did an extra bit in between towards Settle or Ribblehead or Garsdale that would work well
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Post by Burnside on Sept 15, 2020 21:17:15 GMT 1
From what i understand, the 874 and 875 are advertised as running until late October. Can't see them continuing through the winter, as they don't normally and i can't see DalesBus having the money to fund them to do so. As stated above, the Cravenlink routes are essentially running a winter service since their resumption, which, along with Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire's Saturday service 75 not operating has meant a vastly reduced service for Malham. The 874 has run all year round, two journeys each way every Sunday between Ilkley, Grassington and Buckden, since 2008 (I believe it started at the same time as Cravenlink, which was in response to First cancelling the X84 between Ilkley and Skipton on Sundays). It is the additional journeys running through to Hawes that are summer-only. Momentary brainfart! |
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Post by dlspotter on Sept 15, 2020 21:45:28 GMT 1
I was under the understanding that they ran trips back to Grassington/Ilkley during the day so that people were able to get between them and they weren't stuck at one end all day
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Post by Burnside on Sept 26, 2020 11:50:03 GMT 1
On a different (but related) topic, are Arriva using just 1 bus or running a duplicate from Buckden?
I say this, cos Bus Times show Arriva running an 875 Wakefield to Hawes and an 875 Buckden to Hawes running at the same times, so wasn't sure if there was duplication or just a glitch with the Bus Times data?
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Post by dlspotter on Sept 26, 2020 20:56:23 GMT 1
On a different (but related) topic, are Arriva using just 1 bus or running a duplicate from Buckden? I say this, cos Bus Times show Arriva running an 875 Wakefield to Hawes and an 875 Buckden to Hawes running at the same times, so wasn't sure if there was duplication or just a glitch with the Bus Times data? There isn't supposed to be, probably a glitch, I think the service may be doubly registered with one running W'field-Hawes and a second registration running B'den-Hawes |
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Post by kenh on Oct 4, 2020 18:18:21 GMT 1
I knew they did other bits in between sometimes like the 874 does an Ilkley and back in between the Wakefield bits and I thought the 875 did a Settle bit but couldn't find anything that matched up. I was looking to just go 1 way and to Hawes and was looking for a way back possibly by train and if it did an extra bit in between towards Settle or Ribblehead or Garsdale that would work well Deffo does a Hawes - Settle - Hawes fill in trip. I saw the Arriva bus in Settle last year. |
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Post by deerfold on Oct 4, 2020 19:55:09 GMT 1
I knew they did other bits in between sometimes like the 874 does an Ilkley and back in between the Wakefield bits and I thought the 875 did a Settle bit but couldn't find anything that matched up. I was looking to just go 1 way and to Hawes and was looking for a way back possibly by train and if it did an extra bit in between towards Settle or Ribblehead or Garsdale that would work well Deffo does a Hawes - Settle - Hawes fill in trip. I saw the Arriva bus in Settle last year. It has done in the past. It doesn't this year. |
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Post by twy7 on Oct 18, 2020 21:20:15 GMT 1
Looks like arriva wont be running the dales bus any more with the new timetable for the bus from leeds run by york pullman www.dalesbus.org/news |
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Post by stephen01 on Oct 19, 2020 6:46:50 GMT 1
Looks like arriva wont be running the dales bus any more with the new timetable for the bus from leeds run by york pullman www.dalesbus.org/news Ah not quite as Arriva are keeping 874 as that's not listed |
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Post by stevieinselby on Oct 19, 2020 8:02:33 GMT 1
Looks like arriva wont be running the dales bus any more with the new timetable for the bus from leeds run by york pullman www.dalesbus.org/news Ah not quite as Arriva are keeping 874 as that's not listed The timetable for the Pullman 875, www.dalesbus.org/uploads/1/1/3/9/113919127/875.pdf, is clearly replacing the 874 for this winter. This ends Arriva's 12 year stint running the 874 since the route started in its current year-round form in 2008. The news page says that they hope to restart the 874 as a summer service in the spring on the usual route up the B6160. There will be no Sunday service to Bolton Abbey or Burnsall this year, as they are using a double-decker to allow for social distancing. While it's disappointing that Bolton Abbey is being missed out, it's reassuring that they think there will be enough demand to justify a double-decker (even at reduced capacity)! (Edit: silly me, Bolton Abbey isn't missing out altogether because it's still got 3 journeys a day on the 873, so it's only Burnsall that is losing all Sunday services over the winter). |
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Post by adam on Oct 19, 2020 8:07:59 GMT 1
The 875 was full yesterday between Leeds and Grassington. Probably only about 6 on between Wakefield and Leeds then loads of people got on at Leeds bus station. The crossover points on the outbound journey with the single decker on the 874 it appeared to have only single figures on.
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Post by dlspotter on Oct 19, 2020 11:46:58 GMT 1
While it will be nice to see some Pullman buses hopefully it might just be a winter measure. Normally in the summer Wetherby is served by a Dalesbus from Selby, but it's probably more logistically convenient to run from Wakefield depot than a bus coming over from York.
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Post by kenh on Oct 19, 2020 12:23:05 GMT 1
I see Wharfedale packhorse have given up till 2021. So no weekday buses in upper wharefedale.
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Post by stevieinselby on Oct 19, 2020 12:27:53 GMT 1
While it will be nice to see some Pullman buses hopefully it might just be a winter measure. Normally in the summer Wetherby is served by a Dalesbus from Selby, but it's probably more logistically convenient to run from Wakefield depot than a bus coming over from York. The Dalesbus through Wetherby is variable and rarely remains the same from one year to the next, but runs to the eastern dales rather than anywhere near Wharfedale. I don't know how long the contracts awarded are for, but the hope is to reinstate the 874 next summer. The Dalesbus services from Wetherby over recent years have been: 2019: Selby - Masham (Arriva) 2018: no service 2017: no service 2016: Selby - Nidderdale (Arriva) 2015: Selby - Nidderdale (Arriva) 2014: Selby - Nidderdale (Arriva) 2013: University of York - Nidderdale (Transdev) 2012: South Milford - Nidderdale (Utopia) 2011: Wetherby - Richmond via Leeds, Pateley Bridge and Ripon (Pullman) I'm not aware of anything before that in the previous 10 years. |
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