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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 12:50:55 GMT 1
I was discussing buses with a few family members, they love buses, we was discussing Arriva and a family member seem to remember a few buses in the late 90s and early 2000s that Arriva had and he remembered a bus that looked like a commander and a cadet, he doesn't remember the type of bus it was but he remembers these buses was used on the X33 or X32 a lot back then but he wishes to know what type of bus he is thinking, he said they looked like commanders and cadets and he would like to know, but he can picture it but he just can't remember what the model of the buses they were and wondered why Arriva withdrawn them, as he seemed to remember Arriva withdrawing them quite early or something? I would appreciate if someone could help. Thanks. It might be a bit of a longshot, but I am way too young to even remember, so I thought I'd ask the experts here if that is okay?
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Post by mutty on Aug 4, 2020 13:27:28 GMT 1
I was discussing buses with a few family members, they love buses, we was discussing Arriva and a family member seem to remember a few buses in the late 90s and early 2000s that Arriva had and he remembered a bus that looked like a commander and a cadet, he doesn't remember the type of bus it was but he remembers these buses was used on the X33 or X32 a lot back then but he wishes to know what type of bus he is thinking, he said they looked like commanders and cadets and he would like to know, but he can picture it but he just can't remember what the model of the buses they were and wondered why Arriva withdrawn them, as he seemed to remember Arriva withdrawing them quite early or something? I would appreciate if someone could help. Thanks. It might be a bit of a longshot, but I am way too young to even remember, so I thought I'd ask the experts here if that is okay? The reg plates were ... L406 - 409 NUA , started at Wakefield but then moved to HEckmondwike depot when they took over the X33. Although they were “ Yorkshire Buses “, they never got repainted into red and cream, they just had the logo’s on with the green and cream livery. The bus is a Volvo Wright Endevour B10B
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 13:59:31 GMT 1
I was discussing buses with a few family members, they love buses, we was discussing Arriva and a family member seem to remember a few buses in the late 90s and early 2000s that Arriva had and he remembered a bus that looked like a commander and a cadet, he doesn't remember the type of bus it was but he remembers these buses was used on the X33 or X32 a lot back then but he wishes to know what type of bus he is thinking, he said they looked like commanders and cadets and he would like to know, but he can picture it but he just can't remember what the model of the buses they were and wondered why Arriva withdrawn them, as he seemed to remember Arriva withdrawing them quite early or something? I would appreciate if someone could help. Thanks. It might be a bit of a longshot, but I am way too young to even remember, so I thought I'd ask the experts here if that is okay? The reg plates were ... L406 - 409 NUA , started at Wakefield but then moved to HEckmondwike depot when they took over the X33. Although they were “ Yorkshire Buses “, they never got repainted into red and cream, they just had the logo’s on with the green and cream livery. The bus is a Volvo Wright Endevour B10B Those are the ones! Thanks for the help, I showed it to the family member in question and he instantly knew it was them! Thanks for the help? Did they go to Castleford at some point as I've been looking at photos of them for the last 15 minutes and i recognise Castleford route numbers on them? Or was they in the Pool fleet after they left Heckmondwike
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Post by mutty on Aug 4, 2020 14:02:18 GMT 1
The reg plates were ... L406 - 409 NUA , started at Wakefield but then moved to HEckmondwike depot when they took over the X33. Although they were “ Yorkshire Buses “, they never got repainted into red and cream, they just had the logo’s on with the green and cream livery. The bus is a Volvo Wright Endevour B10B Those are the ones! Thanks for the help, I showed it to the family member in question and he instantly knew it was them! Thanks for the help? Did they go to Castleford at some point as I've been looking at photos of them for the last 15 minutes and i recognise Castleford route numbers on them? Or was they in the Pool fleet after they left Heckmondwike Probably - in the end , I think they ended up anywhere !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 14:04:56 GMT 1
Ah nice! Looked like there was step entrance buses as well! I guess since they was L reg which was 1992, they got withdrawn in 2006/2007 likely? Commanders came around in that time too, so I guess commanders was their replacement possibly? Thanks for the help.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 4, 2020 14:07:54 GMT 1
And note despite looking like Commanders, they were step entrance
New in 1993, withdrawn in 2008 ended up with GHA Coaches in North Wales
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 14:23:20 GMT 1
15 years nice they lasted! Glad to see they didn't go straight to scrap then! Weird how next year it will be the 06 plates commanders 15 year birthday with Arriva! I believe Arriva Yorkshire have one as a trainer don't they then? One from Meresyside or is that a Renown?
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Post by mutty on Aug 4, 2020 14:42:58 GMT 1
Ah nice! Looked like there was step entrance buses as well! I guess since they was L reg which was 1992, they got withdrawn in 2006/2007 likely? Commanders came around in that time too, so I guess commanders was their replacement possibly? Thanks for the help. They left the X33 routes when Arriva purchased the newer Wright buses ( W102 -109 EWU ) after leaving they would end up on any route, depending on which garage they were at.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 14:49:06 GMT 1
Ah nice! Looked like there was step entrance buses as well! I guess since they was L reg which was 1992, they got withdrawn in 2006/2007 likely? Commanders came around in that time too, so I guess commanders was their replacement possibly? Thanks for the help. They left the X33 routes when Arriva purchased the newer Wright buses ( W102 -109 EWU ) after leaving they would end up on any route, depending on which garage they were at. Ah right, it's because I seen photos of the Endurances on different routes, on a wide range of ones operated by Wakefield and Castleford. Don't think I saw any photos of them operating any Selby routes, but I could be wrong
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Post by passenger859 on Aug 4, 2020 15:45:01 GMT 1
There were also the five YJ04 Commanders, 495-99, all but one (499) of which went to Arriva Scotland West. I think 499 became a DTV vehicle recently.
Most of the 102-109 (W-EWU) Renown buses ended their days at Selby depot. I think one of 102-109 never actually existed?
I recall the 406 to 406 Endurance buses being new. First time I’d been on a Wright Bodied bus. Always remember the distinctive white plastic panels between the windows and ceiling.
Weird really. Since being a toddler I’ve constantly travelled on buses throughout my life, however not set foot on a bus since 14th March, this being an Arriva Yorkshire E200 mini!
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Post by mutty on Aug 4, 2020 16:38:13 GMT 1
There were also the five YJ04 Commanders, 495-99, all but one (499) of which went to Arriva Scotland West. I think 499 became a DTV vehicle recently. Most of the 102-109 (W-EWU) Renown buses ended their days at Selby depot. I think one of 102-109 never actually existed? I recall the 406 to 406 Endurance buses being new. First time I’d been on a Wright Bodied bus. Always remember the distinctive white plastic panels between the windows and ceiling. Weird really. Since being a toddler I’ve constantly travelled on buses throughout my life, however not set foot on a bus since 14th March, this being an Arriva Yorkshire E200 mini! Correct - W105 EWU never existed - 102 -108 were livered up as “ CATS” - City And Town Shopper - with a large cat shape down the side, 109 was left blank
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 16:43:14 GMT 1
There were also the five YJ04 Commanders, 495-99, all but one (499) of which went to Arriva Scotland West. I think 499 became a DTV vehicle recently. Most of the 102-109 (W-EWU) Renown buses ended their days at Selby depot. I think one of 102-109 never actually existed? I recall the 406 to 406 Endurance buses being new. First time I’d been on a Wright Bodied bus. Always remember the distinctive white plastic panels between the windows and ceiling. Weird really. Since being a toddler I’ve constantly travelled on buses throughout my life, however not set foot on a bus since 14th March, this being an Arriva Yorkshire E200 mini! Didn't the renowns go to Castleford and then the East Midlands? Those buses had quite nice seats, the coach style type of seats which was quite unusual.
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Post by cwtransportphotos on Aug 4, 2020 17:14:02 GMT 1
There were also the five YJ04 Commanders, 495-99, all but one (499) of which went to Arriva Scotland West. I think 499 became a DTV vehicle recently. Most of the 102-109 (W-EWU) Renown buses ended their days at Selby depot. I think one of 102-109 never actually existed? I recall the 406 to 406 Endurance buses being new. First time I’d been on a Wright Bodied bus. Always remember the distinctive white plastic panels between the windows and ceiling. Weird really. Since being a toddler I’ve constantly travelled on buses throughout my life, however not set foot on a bus since 14th March, this being an Arriva Yorkshire E200 mini! Didn't the renowns go to Castleford and then the East Midlands? Those buses had quite nice seats, the coach style type of seats which was quite unusual. I believe they were split in their final days between Selby and Cas before going to the Mids. Im not sure about the rest but 108 lasted even longer and went on to Bullocks and was re-registered there as their HXZ9780. Theres some photos of 108 which more or less looks in scrap condition. Really do miss the Renowns and the Presidents at Selby
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 17:29:12 GMT 1
Didn't the renowns go to Castleford and then the East Midlands? Those buses had quite nice seats, the coach style type of seats which was quite unusual. I believe they were split in their final days between Selby and Cas before going to the Mids. Im not sure about the rest but 108 lasted even longer and went on to Bullocks and was re-registered there as their HXZ9780. Theres some photos of 108 which more or less looks in scrap condition. Really do miss the Renowns and the Presidents at Selby Just seen them, quite sad to see any bus in that condition, but it lasted a nice 17 years. I remember the olympians Transdev had in Lancashire lasting for 30 years the B reg ones, I don't know when they was scrapped but they still was being used in 2015. A lot of people wasn't a fan of presidents I heard, I heard they preferred the ALX 400s
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 4, 2020 17:48:38 GMT 1
The presidents had horrible seats fitted - Urban 90s I believe
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Post by passenger859 on Aug 4, 2020 18:11:54 GMT 1
I never thought that the Caldaire “chevron / upswept band” livery suited the body style of the Wright Endurance body. Not like the second version of it suited the Alexander Striders anyhow.
Mutty, nice reminder about the CATS branding. Seem to recall it was going to do something like the folllwing.
Wakefield City Centre Juntion 32 Outlet Ponte and/or Cas Town Centres Selby Town Centre York Designer Outlet York City Centre
Isn’t that the original reason for purchase of the W-EWUs? Not sure why they decided to pull it last minute.
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Post by passenger859 on Aug 4, 2020 18:13:42 GMT 1
The presidents had horrible seats fitted - Urban 90s I believe Yep, those seats and the huge corner front window pillars were a let down on the Presidents for me. Far preferred the ALX400 of that era body style. The variance in the seats on West Riding’s Leyland National 1s is one or the things that first caught my interest in buses as a kid. Guess it made me realise they were “different” buses before I took note of fleet numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 18:19:15 GMT 1
We had those urban 90 seats in Dennis Darts Blackburn had, horrible seats, great bus, terrible seats
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 4, 2020 18:42:49 GMT 1
The ALX400s that Arriva Yorkshire had were pretty decent. The ALX200s & ALX300s were good as was the Dart Urbanstar UVG (200 fleet no. Reg R103GNW)
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Aug 11, 2020 15:35:29 GMT 1
I think the earlier Wright Endurance Volvo B10B L406NUA to L409NUA ( 406 - 409 ) had ZF gearboxes. Primarily most of life at Wakefield for X33 to begin with, these ended up on other wakefield routes once the later B10BLE renown’s came, these had a few years remaining at Castleford before going. .
Fitted sequentially numbered between the Alexander Strider Volvo B10B’s 401 - 405 and then 410 - 433.
The later Wright Renown’s were on Voith gearbox’s ( I think ZF would have been better, Transdevs Wright Renown’s were better machines ) These Started life interestingly at Heckmondwike for X33. I don’t think I ever saw them on many other routes. I think once on the 221. These stayed til the 2002 Optare Spectras arrived to vacate them to Selby for most of the life. After that they went to Castleford for a few more years. Then moved on.
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Post by guyarab on Aug 11, 2020 18:57:19 GMT 1
The presidents had horrible seats fitted - Urban 90s I believe Yep, those seats and the huge corner front window pillars were a let down on the Presidents for me. Far preferred the ALX400 of that era body style. The variance in the seats on West Riding’s Leyland National 1s is one or the things that first caught my interest in buses as a kid. Guess it made me realise they were “different” buses before I took note of fleet numbers. The ALX400 have the upstairs front window grab rail right at eye level, most annoying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 19:02:00 GMT 1
I quite like those seats that was in the Renowns the coach style type of seats very comfy, when I came in to Yorkshire in 2012 I rode on a couple of them with comfy seats. I recall one of them had different seat covers to the rest. I could be wrong though.
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Post by mutty on Aug 11, 2020 19:49:32 GMT 1
I think the earlier Wright Endurance Volvo B10B L406NUA to L409NUA ( 406 - 409 ) had ZF gearboxes. Primarily most of life at Wakefield for X33 to begin with, these ended up on other wakefield routes once the later B10BLE renown’s came, these had a few years remaining at Castleford before going. . Fitted sequentially numbered between the Alexander Strider Volvo B10B’s 401 - 405 and then 410 - 433. The later Wright Renown’s were on Voith gearbox’s ( I think ZF would have been better, Transdevs Wright Renown’s were better machines ) These Started life interestingly at Heckmondwike for X33. I don’t think I ever saw them on many other routes. I think once on the 221. These stayed til the 2002 Optare Spectras arrived to vacate them to Selby for most of the life. After that they went to Castleford for a few more years. Then moved on. These were transferred to Heckmondwike depot when they took on the X33 and for a long time they had the green and cream of West Riding livery , but Yorkshire Buses branding - then Arriva took over and repainted these as Arriva Express - again all whilst at Heckmondwike depot
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