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Post by 1601 on Jul 29, 2020 20:08:58 GMT 1
I can confirm if the Tempos do go over to Selby, Lowlanders will be coming to Castleford.
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Post by selbybus on Jul 29, 2020 21:52:23 GMT 1
Wondering if the 476 will continue to be operated by Selby given 408/409 is now. I have a feeling that the 187 may begin to interwork with the 476. 476 will continue to be operated by Selby, it will continue on to Xscape from Pontefract. 405,x45,408 & 409 will all inter work and be operated from Selby also. |
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Post by selbybus on Jul 29, 2020 21:55:59 GMT 1
Surely the 164 wont be an every 2 hour service, between Selby and Leeds, no way will the service cope especially with only single deckers. Prior to lockdown the 403's used to struggle often even with double deckers on an hourly timetable. I know businesses are likely to be pushing more people to be working from home I still dont see that making much of a difference. Surely given that theyre only signle deckers and they are to be sapphire spec Id have thought they'd have been every half hour Not sure what 403’s you’ve been on but I can assure you that most 402/3 or the new 164 will be just fine will a single decker. The only exceptions will be any services that call at Selby high, and yes it’ll be 2 hourly and hourly from Sherburn to Selby combined with the 64 which will also be 2 hourly. Sapphire buses will purely be used because the 163/166 is Sapphire service and no other reason. |
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Post by jst on Jul 29, 2020 22:27:11 GMT 1
The Enviro 200s have been popping up on the 2 hourly 403 at the moment and seem to be coping fine.
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Post by cwtransportphotos on Jul 29, 2020 23:50:46 GMT 1
Surely the 164 wont be an every 2 hour service, between Selby and Leeds, no way will the service cope especially with only single deckers. Prior to lockdown the 403's used to struggle often even with double deckers on an hourly timetable. I know businesses are likely to be pushing more people to be working from home I still dont see that making much of a difference. Surely given that theyre only signle deckers and they are to be sapphire spec Id have thought they'd have been every half hour Not sure what 403’s you’ve been on but I can assure you that most 402/3 or the new 164 will be just fine will a single decker. The only exceptions will be any services that call at Selby high, and yes it’ll be 2 hourly and hourly from Sherburn to Selby combined with the 64 which will also be 2 hourly. Sapphire buses will purely be used because the 163/166 is Sapphire service and no other reason. No chance will a single decker cope on a 2 hour frequency 403/164 during the peaks. Prior to lockdown the 10 past 5 was always usually full and that was double deckers. Similar story in the morning and they were hourly |
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Post by cwtransportphotos on Jul 29, 2020 23:56:17 GMT 1
The Enviro 200s have been popping up on the 2 hourly 403 at the moment and seem to be coping fine. Im not entirely sure that you can guage current passenger numbers to plan future frequencies etc. obviously at the moment an E200 will do the job especially seen as 90% of the users are either commuters (of which the majority are working from home) and OAPs (whom the majority will be in lockdown ways for the forseeable future because its still not safe for them to be travlling on public transport) I think people on here are forgetting that were still in partial lockdown and that "normal" passenger numbers wont be seen for months if not years to come, and that an E200 etc on a route is suitable. |
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Post by dlspotter on Jul 30, 2020 16:13:12 GMT 1
Surely the 164 wont be an every 2 hour service, between Selby and Leeds, no way will the service cope especially with only single deckers. Prior to lockdown the 403's used to struggle often even with double deckers on an hourly timetable. I know businesses are likely to be pushing more people to be working from home I still dont see that making much of a difference. Surely given that theyre only signle deckers and they are to be sapphire spec Id have thought they'd have been every half hour Im a bit confused by this too because if it is a inter work with the 163 as is suggested on here then they would need to have single deckers on there to and they are even busier than the 403! It does seam weird to put sapphire on a service but to reduce it to 2 hourly. I am not ssure it is going to be sapphire Personally I think it will interwork with itself on both ends. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 1, 2020 6:42:20 GMT 1
Surely the 164 wont be an every 2 hour service, between Selby and Leeds, no way will the service cope especially with only single deckers. Prior to lockdown the 403's used to struggle often even with double deckers on an hourly timetable. I know businesses are likely to be pushing more people to be working from home I still dont see that making much of a difference. Surely given that theyre only signle deckers and they are to be sapphire spec Id have thought they'd have been every half hour I agree needs to be at least every hour really. At the turn of the century 402/3 combined was every half hour. One via Halton, the other via Cross Gates. Look at ANW130 though, that was made Sapphire but only ran the through from Macclesfield to Manchester every hour, with the one inbetween just going as far as Wilmslow. Last year they then cut the through Manc one to terminate at East Didsbury. Arriva then withdrew it in January, with D & G introducing a limited replacement but only in Cheshire. |
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Post by mark51953 on Aug 2, 2020 10:04:37 GMT 1
Been told once the 1600’s go from Selby they will go to Wakefield not Castleford once the replacements come towards the end of the month so will have to see Tempos or MMC200’s as both now been tested in Selby but mmc’s only on type training not the Tempos hmmm
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Post by cwtransportphotos on Aug 2, 2020 12:22:35 GMT 1
Been told once the 1600’s go from Selby they will go to Wakefield not Castleford once the replacements come towards the end of the month so will have to see Tempos or MMC200’s as both now been tested in Selby but mmc’s only on type training not the Tempos hmmm Is that the Ex-Tiger MMCs that Selby are getting? |
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Post by dlspotter on Aug 2, 2020 16:22:08 GMT 1
Been told once the 1600’s go from Selby they will go to Wakefield not Castleford once the replacements come towards the end of the month so will have to see Tempos or MMC200’s as both now been tested in Selby but mmc’s only on type training not the Tempos hmmm My thoughts are: E200MMCs - Selby's 64, possibly 493, 1, 2, 3 and 5 Tempos - 405, 408, 409 Versas to cover 164 (interworking with itself on both ends) Lowlanders - To Wakefield for pool fleet/ routes eg 425/427/148/149/496 Commanders to go from Wakefield (and possibly Selby) to Castleford to cover 187. This is just what I can imagine may happen, I may be entirely wrong. |
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 2, 2020 16:32:04 GMT 1
Been told once the 1600’s go from Selby they will go to Wakefield not Castleford once the replacements come towards the end of the month so will have to see Tempos or MMC200’s as both now been tested in Selby but mmc’s only on type training not the Tempos hmmm My thoughts are: E200MMCs - Selby's 64, possibly 493, 1, 2, 3 and 5 Tempos - 405, 408, 409 Versas to cover 164 (interworking with itself on both ends) Lowlanders - To Wakefield for pool fleet/ routes eg 425/427/148/149/496 Commanders to go from Wakefield (and possibly Selby) to Castleford to cover 187. This is just what I can imagine may happen, I may be entirely wrong. I think they could also send 3020/3021/3052/3053 could go back to Selby from Tiger Elland as well and some of the Tiger Idle Solos may follow because dont forget Tiger Elland have lost a few routes recently. I can also see the E200MMCs joining Wakefield depot to help on the "little buses" network as they'll have more capacity for the routes on that network. Versas i can see for 164 100% and the commanders may go to pool fleet or DTV fleet |
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Post by stevieinselby on Aug 2, 2020 22:35:42 GMT 1
Been told once the 1600’s go from Selby they will go to Wakefield not Castleford once the replacements come towards the end of the month so will have to see Tempos or MMC200’s as both now been tested in Selby but mmc’s only on type training not the Tempos hmmm My thoughts are: E200MMCs - Selby's 64, possibly 493, 1, 2, 3 and 5 Tempos - 405, 408, 409 Versas to cover 164 (interworking with itself on both ends) It would make sense to use Euro VI buses on the 164 if they have them available rather than retrofit any more buses than they need to for Leeds CAZ, so that would cover the E200MMCs but I'm guessing probably not the Versas? And I'm not sure it's a great use of resources to waste new buses on the college routes when they will probably then be sitting idle for most of the day. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 22:57:47 GMT 1
My thoughts are: E200MMCs - Selby's 64, possibly 493, 1, 2, 3 and 5 Tempos - 405, 408, 409 Versas to cover 164 (interworking with itself on both ends) It would make sense to use Euro VI buses on the 164 if they have them available rather than retrofit any more buses than they need to for Leeds CAZ, so that would cover the E200MMCs but I'm guessing probably not the Versas? And I'm not sure it's a great use of resources to waste new buses on the college routes when they will probably then be sitting idle for most of the day. Could those commanders Selby have be ideal for the college buses? |
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Post by cwtransportphotos on Aug 3, 2020 18:10:43 GMT 1
Noticed training Tempo 775 on the A656 near Micklefield earlier - Could this be for route learning for the new 164 do we think?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 18:27:19 GMT 1
Noticed training Tempo 775 on the A656 near Micklefield earlier - Could this be for route learning for the new 164 do we think? Someone mentioned in the other thread that there was route learning today by Castleford for the new route so probably. |
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Post by twy7 on Aug 3, 2020 18:33:07 GMT 1
A castleford drivers told me that 164 and 189 would inter work with the 189 vehicles and that castleford are getting more of these? The versas will only be doing 167 and 168 but will be refurbished before they come and they will be sapphire
He also said that the tempos where going to selby but now wont be because they cant get into the bus station? I don’t know why but they are going to swop them for something else.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 18:35:58 GMT 1
A castleford drivers told me that 164 and 189 would inter work with the 189 vehicles and that castleford are getting more of these? The versas will only be doing 167 and 168 but will be refurbished before they come and they will be sapphire He also said that the tempos where going to selby but now wont be because they cant get into the bus station? I don’t know why but they are going to swop them for something else. So the tempos are staying at Cas then? Or is your message saying that cas are going to swap the tempos for something else? |
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Post by twy7 on Aug 3, 2020 18:40:25 GMT 1
A castleford drivers told me that 164 and 189 would inter work with the 189 vehicles and that castleford are getting more of these? The versas will only be doing 167 and 168 but will be refurbished before they come and they will be sapphire He also said that the tempos where going to selby but now wont be because they cant get into the bus station? I don’t know why but they are going to swop them for something else. So the tempos are staying at Cas then? Or is your message saying that cas are going to swap the tempos for something else? I asked that but he didn’t know just said they would not be going to selby now |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 18:43:28 GMT 1
So the tempos are staying at Cas then? Or is your message saying that cas are going to swap the tempos for something else? I asked that but he didn’t know just said they would not be going to selby now Also means there will be 5 spare buses now as well if the 167/168 are getting sapphire versas. Maybe this means they could get rid of the tempos as they might not need them? |
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Post by mark51953 on Aug 5, 2020 14:55:28 GMT 1
Just seen North West 1029 on the Castleford 164(403) route learning so that's
1024 Selby
1029 Castleford
Anymore around guys
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 20:58:26 GMT 1
Interesting to see the Doncasters getting a completely new timetable, does this suggest it's likely going to Selby depot then? The 187 timetable is also being revised. I always thought the Gypsy Lane thing was pointless on the 184, just a bit of a pain for drivers!
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Post by dlspotter on Aug 6, 2020 22:16:03 GMT 1
Now to await the timetables to get confirmation of interworkings Pretty interesting that the 164 is running Vicar Ln and York St out of Leeds |
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Post by selbybus on Aug 7, 2020 20:54:32 GMT 1
Interesting to see the Doncasters getting a completely new timetable, does this suggest it's likely going to Selby depot then? The 187 timetable is also being revised. I always thought the Gypsy Lane thing was pointless on the 184, just a bit of a pain for drivers! Selby will operate the 405, 408 & 409 from 31st August with the 164 (402/3) operated by Castleford. |
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