SF07
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Post by SF07 on Mar 5, 2020 21:08:01 GMT 1
Registration has appeared today from Harrogate Bus Company for a 59 service between Harrogate and Skipton on Saturdays from 11 April: PB0001746/121 Registered HARROGATE & DISTRICT TRAVEL LTD Route: Harrogate Bus Station to Skipton Bus Station via Blubberhouses Service number: 59 Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 Apr 2020 Saturday Timetable on DalesBus states 3 return journeys until 17 October: www.dalesbus.org/59.html www.dalesbus.org/uploads/1/1/3/9/113919127/59.pdf |
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Post by dlspotter on Mar 5, 2020 21:13:03 GMT 1
Sounds like a good scenic journey, wonder if it will be operated on Eclipses or if they'll put a Gemini in for it occasionally
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 6, 2020 13:48:18 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on Aug 5, 2020 13:45:05 GMT 1
Probably worth mentioning in case anyone happens across this page that this service did not start. It is currently "suspended". As it's likely to be a summer-only service I doubt it will start this year.
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Post by dlspotter on Aug 5, 2020 13:50:53 GMT 1
Probably worth mentioning in case anyone happens across this page that this service did not start. It is currently "suspended". As it's likely to be a summer-only service I doubt it will start this year. I was thinking the same thing It's a shame really that it wouldn't be able to generate year-round interest, would make it tons more convenient as not having to change in Leeds. |
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Post by deerfold on Aug 5, 2020 17:47:44 GMT 1
Probably worth mentioning in case anyone happens across this page that this service did not start. It is currently "suspended". As it's likely to be a summer-only service I doubt it will start this year. I was thinking the same thing It's a shame really that it wouldn't be able to generate year-round interest, would make it tons more convenient as not having to change in Leeds. I'd certainly use it with a change in Skipton - I'd have nearly 5 hours in Harrogate. Used to use the direct bus to Harrogate on the 62 and the time taken will be about the same - although usually returned on the last (1730) service. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Aug 5, 2020 18:37:47 GMT 1
Probably worth mentioning in case anyone happens across this page that this service did not start. It is currently "suspended". As it's likely to be a summer-only service I doubt it will start this year. I was thinking the same thing It's a shame really that it wouldn't be able to generate year-round interest, would make it tons more convenient as not having to change in Leeds. Don't forget that Transdev ran the X59 between Harrogate and Skipton from 2001 to 2011 every 2 hours (with funding), and then for another couple of years running twice a day (commercially) before dropping it. If it wasn't a viable route to run all year round then, what has changed in the meantime? Yes, it would be great to see buses running between Harrogate and Skipton again, but I can't help feeling it would make more sense to connect the X52 and 784 services together and run via Otley (if the 784 is a permanent change) – yes, it would take about 20 minutes longer than running along the A59, but because you're just joining two routes that we already know are viable then you can at least be sure that the new route would be viable. |
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Post by deerfold on Aug 5, 2020 20:07:12 GMT 1
I was thinking the same thing It's a shame really that it wouldn't be able to generate year-round interest, would make it tons more convenient as not having to change in Leeds. Don't forget that Transdev ran the X59 between Harrogate and Skipton from 2001 to 2011 every 2 hours (with funding), and then for another couple of years running twice a day (commercially) before dropping it. If it wasn't a viable route to run all year round then, what has changed in the meantime? Yes, it would be great to see buses running between Harrogate and Skipton again, but I can't help feeling it would make more sense to connect the X52 and 784 services together and run via Otley (if the 784 is a permanent change) – yes, it would take about 20 minutes longer than running along the A59, but because you're just joining two routes that we already know are viable then you can at least be sure that the new route would be viable. When they ran it twice a day I never caught it as you couldn't have more than about 90 minutes in Harrogate. As that's about how long my journey each way would take, it didn't seem worth it. Blazefield have also run an X50 which went Skipton - Ilkley - Otley - Pool - Harrogate - York every 2 hours. I'd be happy with that - I could pick it up at Addingham, Ilkley or Otley. At the moment (pre-covid at least, I haven't checked recently) as well as being as expensive as getting the train, traveling 62/X52 is as slow as getting the train via Leeds as they connections are dreadful. So on the odd occasion I do go to Harrogate, I get the train with at least a half-hourly frequency on all legs. Going via Leeds on the bus takes over 3 hours - I've done that, but only when staying overnight in Harrogate. I'll have to look up how long (and how expensive) it is to go 62/Flyer changing at Pool. |
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Post by SCH117X on Aug 5, 2020 21:27:58 GMT 1
I can see the 784 becoming like the 64 worked by Connexions for First so linking it with the X52 would be a logical step and basically replicates the latter days of the X50 which largely ran just between Harrogate and Skipton. That service was withdrawn coincidental with an increase in the frequency of the 36. The X59 was hampered by being worked solely by Starbeck, if it had been jointly operated by Keighley there could have been useful peak hour workings. It was the classic full bus of connessions holders running at a loss the same as the X54 between Harrogate and York which Connexions also tried and failed with; it has always been noticeable that Connexions have never attempted the X59
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Post by stevieinselby on Aug 5, 2020 22:26:16 GMT 1
Don't forget that Transdev ran the X59 between Harrogate and Skipton from 2001 to 2011 every 2 hours (with funding), and then for another couple of years running twice a day (commercially) before dropping it. If it wasn't a viable route to run all year round then, what has changed in the meantime? Yes, it would be great to see buses running between Harrogate and Skipton again, but I can't help feeling it would make more sense to connect the X52 and 784 services together and run via Otley (if the 784 is a permanent change) – yes, it would take about 20 minutes longer than running along the A59, but because you're just joining two routes that we already know are viable then you can at least be sure that the new route would be viable. When they ran it twice a day I never caught it as you couldn't have more than about 90 minutes in Harrogate. As that's about how long my journey each way would take, it didn't seem worth it. Blazefield have also run an X50 which went Skipton - Ilkley - Otley - Pool - Harrogate - York every 2 hours. I'd be happy with that - I could pick it up at Addingham, Ilkley or Otley. At the moment (pre-covid at least, I haven't checked recently) as well as being as expensive as getting the train, traveling 62/X52 is as slow as getting the train via Leeds as they connections are dreadful. So on the odd occasion I do go to Harrogate, I get the train with at least a half-hourly frequency on all legs. Going via Leeds on the bus takes over 3 hours - I've done that, but only when staying overnight in Harrogate. I'll have to look up how long (and how expensive) it is to go 62/Flyer changing at Pool. When the X59 was running two journeys a day, on weekdays you would have 2½ hours in Harrogate and on Saturdays you would have 4½ hours. web.archive.org/web/20121022032425/http://getdown.org.uk/bus/bus/x59.shtmlYes, if you're travelling from Keighley to Harrogate then to say that the 62 is half-hourly as far as Ilkley, the connections really don't work out well at all – 2 hours end-to-end doesn't look attractive when the direct service was only 1h35, and messing around to pick up the 747 or 36 isn't any better either. |
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Post by deerfold on Aug 6, 2020 9:52:25 GMT 1
Longer than I remembered, but still not very long. Yes, if you're travelling from Keighley to Harrogate then to say that the 62 is half-hourly as far as Ilkley, the connections really don't work out well at all – 2 hours end-to-end doesn't look attractive when the direct service was only 1h35, and messing around to pick up the 747 or 36 isn't any better either. Ironically, before the 62 ran through to Harrogate we had much better connections to the X52, but Connexxions deliberately moved it to run just in front of the 62 when that started running through. |
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