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Post by martinsfp on Jan 4, 2020 22:53:39 GMT 1
My main interest in buses is the routes and timetables, and one thing I have found is historical data about bus routes often gets lost in the mists of time. Just think abouthow many sketchy, incomplete lists of routes there are on this forum, drawn from people's distant memories. So, I've gone back to an original source, a 40-year-old Metro bus timetables book from July 1979, to create a spreadsheet of all 180 bus services operating in the Bradford district at the time. I've included service numbers, routes (main places served), frequencies, and operators. Please have a read through. All feedback welcome. If something can be clearer, you're unsure of the accuracy of something, or you have anything else to add, please let me know. Nostalgic memories of these routes are also welcome below! Feel free to share this read-only spreadsheet link elsewhere if you think anyone else might be interested. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18NzPiBKKGkHeQkOPUXAErzUhxP7RRtjXm7olHQXx3H4/edit?usp=sharing |
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Post by 77syk7 on Jan 6, 2020 16:47:26 GMT 1
Hi 'martinsfp'- thanks very much for publishing your list of Bradford routes 40 years ago. This contains a wealth of information and should be of interest to many members young and old on the forum.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Jan 7, 2020 15:57:18 GMT 1
Can just about remember the Hollingwood Lane buses terminating on Welbeck Drive. I would 5-6 years old back then
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Post by martinsfp on Jan 7, 2020 23:26:58 GMT 1
Can just about remember the Hollingwood Lane buses terminating on Welbeck Drive. I would 5-6 years old back then How did that work? Did they do a full loop of Welbeck Drive? |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 8, 2020 1:01:33 GMT 1
Can just about remember the Hollingwood Lane buses terminating on Welbeck Drive. I would 5-6 years old back then How did that work? Did they do a full loop of Welbeck Drive? Were buses still crewed in 1979? In conductor days, buses reversed at the terminus at Holly Park Drive/Welbeck Drive, but they may have had to alter this arrangement for opo before the route was altered to miss out Holly Park Drive (there's another thread somewhere on this forum about termini where buses reversed). |
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Post by ratty on Jan 8, 2020 7:02:08 GMT 1
Simple answer is yes they were crew in Bradford in 1979. IIRC Bradford district was 93% crew until well in to the 80's. By comparison, Leeds had very little crew by 1979, Halifax had approximately 60%, and Huddersfield had slightly less than that.
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Post by martinsfp on Jan 8, 2020 15:02:59 GMT 1
Simple answer is yes they were crew in Bradford in 1979. IIRC Bradford district was 93% crew until well in to the 80's. By comparison, Leeds had very little crew by 1979, Halifax had approximately 60%, and Huddersfield had slightly less than that. Yes, my dad became a conductor in Bradford in 1979 and was shifted over to driving in about 86/87. |
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Jan 8, 2020 21:11:47 GMT 1
Think the Welbeck Drive terminus was finished & all services continue up Hollingwood Lane to Buttershaw Queensbury Hungerhill & Odsal evening & Sunday by dereguation
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 8, 2020 21:45:58 GMT 1
What is interesting is that someone somewhere at First WY must have good historical knowledge as when they revised the Wyke service a couple of years ago, they used the 686 number, even though it was last used 30 years ago.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Jan 9, 2020 16:19:17 GMT 1
What is interesting is that someone somewhere at First WY must have good historical knowledge as when they revised the Wyke service a couple of years ago, they used the 686 number, even though it was last used 30 years ago. 686 ran to Wyke before D-Day 26/10/86, in 1988-89 the route number was allocated to the Bradford-Shipley via Wrose service |
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Jan 22, 2020 7:26:23 GMT 1
Very good to see.
One point I've noticed that is wrong, and certainly NOT the fault of the author, and can understand why it's wrong, is the 259, is put as operated by both Yorkshire and Yorkshire Traction, which the service was only ever operated by Yorkshire, (travelled from Gomersal to Dudley Hill to visit Grandparents in 70's, so used both 259 & 260) and looking in my Bradford district October 1978 book shows the same exact info Yorkshire/Yorkshire Traction as operating 259, due to the National Bus logo as the code.
Whereas, when looking in Kirklees District October 1978, 259 has National Bus logo, and 260 has + to denote operated by Yorkshire and Yorkshire Traction.
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