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Post by peteleeds on Nov 14, 2019 22:16:38 GMT 1
Summarised below are the main bus service changes in the Leeds/Bradford area to be introduced on the 8th December 2019. (These were shared by our local councillor on facebook)
2 Middleton • Leeds • Roundhay Park
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5 minutes.
3 3A White Rose Centre • Leeds • Harehills
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5 minutes.
7 7A 7S X7 Leeds • Primley Park/Alwoodley/Shadwell
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5 minutes. An additional X7 journey will run from Leeds at 16:12.
12 White Rose Centre • Roundhay
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with a small number of peak journeys withdrawn, and other journeys altered by around 5 minutes.
13 13A Middleton • Leeds • Brackenwood/Gledhow
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5 minutes.
26 Thorpe Park • Cross Gates • Halton Dial
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
This is a new Monday to Saturday off peak service operating every 30 minutes from Thorpe Park to Halton Dial via Cross Gates and Halton.
27 Halton Dial • Cross Gates • Thorpe Park
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
This is a new Monday to Saturday off peak service operating every 30 minutes from Halton Dial to Thorpe Park via Halton and Cross Gates.
33 34 Leeds • Horsforth • Otley
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced. Two journeys per hour will run as service 33 to Guiseley White Cross, two as service 34 via Yeadon to Otley, and two as service 34 to Yeadon Morrisons.
40 Leeds • Cross Gates • Seacroft
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised Monday to Saturday daytime timetable will be introduced. The Monday to Friday daytime frequency will be reduced from every 10 to every 12 minutes. The Saturday daytime frequency will be reduced from
508 Halifax • Odsal • Farsley • Kirkstall • Leeds
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5-10 minutes.
576 Halifax • Queensbury • Bradford
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced. The weekday frequency will be reduced from every 10 minutes to every 12 minutes.
611 X11 Bradford • Bradford Moor • Pudsey • Leeds
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable and stopping conditions will be introduced. Service X11 will continue to run half hourly. It will call at all stops between Bradford and Swinnow Road, then run limited stop into Leeds. Service 611 will be withdrawn apart from early morning journeys.
K1 Keighley • Laycock
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by Keighley Bus Company
A revised timetable will be introduced. The weekday and Saturday frequency will be reduced from half-hourly to hourly.
K5 Keighley • Thwaites Brow
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by Keighley Bus Company
A revised timetable will be introduced. The weekday and Saturday frequency will be reduced from half-hourly to hourly.
K14 Keighley • Leeming • Stanbury
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by Keighley Bus Company
Minor timetable changes will be introduced to improve punctuality.
K15 Keighley • Leeming
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by Keighley Bus Company
Minor timetable changes will be introduced to improve punctuality.
K16 Keighley • Stanbury
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by Keighley Bus Company
Minor timetable changes will be introduced to improve punctuality.
X84 X85 Leeds • Otley • Ilkley • Skipton
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5-10 minutes.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 14, 2019 23:03:38 GMT 1
Barkerend Road in Bradford has gone from every 10 mins to every 30 mins quite quickly there. I don’t think the market for buses is very strong up there though.
Yet more cuts from 6 to 5 buses per hour. I’m sure there was a pledge a few years ago when the Leeds bus improvements were announced that all main corridors into Leeds would run every 10 mins. Now we’ve ended up where less corridors do, not more.
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Post by rwilkes on Nov 14, 2019 23:27:09 GMT 1
unless Bradford puts in more bus lanes, we will continue with cuts
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 14, 2019 23:33:29 GMT 1
unless Bradford puts in more bus lanes, we will continue with cuts I don’t think most roads into Bradford (Leeds, Barkerend, Great Horton, Thornton etc) have room for bus lanes. |
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Post by martinsfp on Nov 15, 2019 2:41:45 GMT 1
The 26 and 27 are interesting. Halton Dial becomes a terminus again, although it will be interesting to see where exactly the buses terminate/make up time - looks like it may be a circular route.
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Post by martinsfp on Nov 15, 2019 3:43:05 GMT 1
..,although of course it means First Leeds will now have two 27s, which is a bit silly.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Nov 15, 2019 14:03:36 GMT 1
The 26 and 27 are interesting. Halton Dial becomes a terminus again, although it will be interesting to see where exactly the buses terminate/make up time - looks like it may be a circular route. Outbound as 26 to Selby Road / Dunhill Rise, return as 27 |
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Post by nic on Nov 15, 2019 23:51:49 GMT 1
First up to their previous trick with the 33/34 (when it was 33/33A). It didn't work last time - what makes them think it will work this time?
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Post by twansport on Nov 16, 2019 10:09:35 GMT 1
There are some gaps in the OP that I have picked up whilst reading another Councillors Facebook page.
Summarised below are the main bus service changes in the Leeds area to be introduced on the 8th December 2019.
2 Middleton • Leeds • Roundhay Park
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5 minutes.
3 3A White Rose Centre • Leeds • Harehills
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5 minutes.
7 7A 7S X7 Leeds • Primley Park/Alwoodley/Shadwell
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5 minutes. An additional X7 journey will run from Leeds at 16:12.
12 White Rose Centre • Roundhay
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with a small number of peak journeys withdrawn, and other journeys altered by around 5 minutes.
13 13A Middleton • Leeds • Brackenwood/Gledhow
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5 minutes.
26 Thorpe Park • Cross Gates • Halton Dial
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
This is a new Monday to Saturday off peak service operating every 30 minutes from Thorpe Park to Halton Dial via Cross Gates and Halton.
27 Halton Dial • Cross Gates • Thorpe Park
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
This is a new Monday to Saturday off peak service operating every 30 minutes from Halton Dial to Thorpe Park via Halton and Cross Gates.
33 34 Leeds • Horsforth • Otley
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced. Two journeys per hour will run as service 33 to Guiseley White Cross, two as service 34 via Yeadon to Otley, and two as service 34 to Yeadon Morrisons.
40 Leeds • Cross Gates • Seacroft
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised Monday to Saturday daytime timetable will be introduced. The Monday to Friday daytime frequency will be reduced from every 10 to every 12 minutes. The Saturday daytime frequency will be reduced from every 12 to every 15 minutes.
51 52 Moor Allerton • Leeds • Morley
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5-10 minutes.
74 74A Middleton • Hunslet • Leeds
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, running every 20 minutes. All journeys will operate via Sharp House. Service 74A will be withdrawn. An hourly through link with service 75 at Middleton will be retained.
75 Leeds • Holbeck • Beeston • Middleton
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced. An hourly through link with service 74 at Middleton will be retained.
91 Pudsey • Bramley • Headingley • Halton Moor
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised Monday to Friday afternoon peak timetable will be introduced.
508 Halifax • Odsal • Farsley • Kirkstall • Leeds
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5-10 minutes.
611 X11 Bradford • Bradford Moor • Pudsey • Leeds
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable and stopping conditions will be introduced. Service X11 will continue to run half hourly. It will call at all stops between Bradford and Swinnow Road, then run limited stop into Leeds. Service 611 will be withdrawn apart from early morning journeys.
X26 X27 Leeds • Cross Gates • Thorpe Park • Garforth
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced. All journeys will terminate at Thorpe Park, and will no longer extend to Garforth. Monday to Saturday off peak frequency will be reduced from every 15 minutes to every 30 minutes. Additional off peak journeys will operate between Thorpe Park and Halton Dial as new service 26/27.
X84 X85 Leeds • Otley • Ilkley • Skipton
Sun 8 Dec 2019
Operated by First
A revised timetable will be introduced, with some journeys altered by around 5-10 minutes.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 16, 2019 11:01:22 GMT 1
Reducing Saturday timetables a few weeks before Christmas when services will already be disrupted doesn’t sound like a great idea.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Nov 17, 2019 13:39:14 GMT 1
590/592 going every 15 minutes with through journeys from Halifax to Burnley or Rochdale re-introduced.
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Post by glennh2 on Nov 18, 2019 13:20:11 GMT 1
549 only hourly Huddersfield- Nunnery Lane
356 358 reduced to hourly
521 576 579 590 592 all reduced in frequency daytime
522 1530 bus withdrawn
589 not serving Burnley
Some big cuts to popular services amongst these changes. Surprising?
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Nov 18, 2019 15:59:42 GMT 1
549 only hourly Huddersfield- Nunnery Lane 356 358 reduced to hourly 521 576 579 590 592 all reduced in frequency daytime 522 1530 bus withdrawn 589 not serving Burnley Some big cuts to popular services amongst these changes. Surprising? The decline of the 576 continues, use to be a good service, buses late or fail to slow every time I use it. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 18, 2019 19:15:50 GMT 1
549 only hourly Huddersfield- Nunnery Lane 356 358 reduced to hourly 521 576 579 590 592 all reduced in frequency daytime 522 1530 bus withdrawn 589 not serving Burnley Some big cuts to popular services amongst these changes. Surprising? Reductions down to hourly is really very poor Service 342 is reduced to hourly as well Service 185 is reduced to every 30 minutes |
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Post by twansport on Nov 18, 2019 19:47:09 GMT 1
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Post by gooderson1 on Nov 18, 2019 19:56:45 GMT 1
I would hazard a guess that services are altered following surveys. Such surveys are undertaken on bus, kerb side or info from tickets issued through a machine. If you are an operator running a bus on air(no passengers) you will obviously alter or withdraw the service. Not knowing the inner working of WYMetro I suspect that they will have been consulted and have had some form of involvement in any decision.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 18, 2019 20:00:35 GMT 1
When a service is reduced in frequency there isn’t anything Metro can do. They’d only come into play if the service was being withdrawn entirely.
First are managing decline though and are in a poor financial state, they are cutting significantly all over the country, more so than anyone else.
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Post by glennh2 on Nov 18, 2019 20:27:58 GMT 1
The new timetable sees a 185 5 minutes behind the 184 from Huddersfield and 4 minutes in front of the 184 towards Huddersfield. Surely that won't do loadings of both services any favours and could be the death knell for the 184?
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Post by northerner on Nov 18, 2019 20:59:08 GMT 1
First are managing decline though and are in a poor financial state, they are cutting significantly all over the country, more so than anyone else. First don't appear to help themselves. Frequent cancellations, buses in a run down state and demotivated staff seem to be the norm., even the newer ones are already looking untidy. All things in their control which need urgent attention. Service cuts are just going to reduce passenger numbers further, especially if the cancellation levels continue at their current levels. Although, if First's twitter team are correct, passenger numbers are increasing as this was one of the reasons given for the latest fare rise |
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Post by js12345678910 on Nov 19, 2019 0:54:03 GMT 1
549 only hourly Huddersfield- Nunnery Lane 356 358 reduced to hourly 521 576 579 590 592 all reduced in frequency daytime 522 1530 bus withdrawn 589 not serving Burnley Some big cuts to popular services amongst these changes. Surprising? The decline of the 576 continues, use to be a good service, buses late or fail to slow every time I use it. you can say that again! The 576 is an appalling service these days with a ridiculous amount of no shows. |
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Post by js12345678910 on Nov 19, 2019 0:54:40 GMT 1
590/592 going every 15 minutes with through journeys from Halifax to Burnley or Rochdale re-introduced. I don’t tend to travel during the daytime. Is it worth it been every 10 or is this change sensible ? |
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Nov 19, 2019 4:50:43 GMT 1
590/592 going every 15 minutes with through journeys from Halifax to Burnley or Rochdale re-introduced. I don’t tend to travel during the daytime. Is it worth it been every 10 or is this change sensible ? I'm a Calder Valley driver and yes I would think so, it's the hourly burnley service that is concerning. We get full standing loads in the AM and PM peak to/from Burnley even with deckers. The roadworks at Mytholmroyd has hit the service hard with delays being inevitable |
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Post by 77syk7 on Nov 19, 2019 10:21:05 GMT 1
I am also surprised that Todmorden to Burnley is going down to hourly. Initially, I thought that both the 590 and 592 were going half hourly each therefore replacing the 589 completely but maintaining the same frequency.
If the 592 does go down to hourly, then it might be expected that Rosso would introduce a Burnley - Tod link. There has been competition on this section before!
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Nov 19, 2019 10:36:51 GMT 1
549 only hourly Huddersfield- Nunnery Lane 356 358 reduced to hourly 521 576 579 590 592 all reduced in frequency daytime 522 1530 bus withdrawn 589 not serving Burnley Some big cuts to popular services amongst these changes. Surprising? The decline of the 576 continues, use to be a good service, buses late or fail to slow every time I use it. 576 is already a reduced service, a 10-minute service with one bus removed, creating 15-minutes gaps |
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Post by deerfold on Nov 19, 2019 17:08:26 GMT 1
I see the evening 301 is going down to hourly too - that didn't take long after the competition disappeared. Wonder if the last bus will disappear again during the week.
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