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Post by SCH117X on Aug 31, 2021 22:15:42 GMT 1
Yes but the actual repainted livery was not specified - will it be Team Pennine or Pride of the North/ Transdev Go
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 31, 2021 23:15:31 GMT 1
Rumour has it that 2201 (717) is no longer staying and is apparently up for sale on ebay with a £10k price tag It’s a bit of a poor rumour when anyone can just check eBay and find it isn’t on there
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Post by jus363 on Sept 1, 2021 9:52:43 GMT 1
Rumour has it that 2201 (717) is no longer staying and is apparently up for sale on ebay with a £10k price tag Didn't Alex Hornby already confirm on Twitter that the spectra was staying for schools only, and will get a refurb/repaint into Team Pennine colours too? Its out this morning working on Wainstalls service
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Post by dinalreives on Sept 1, 2021 10:34:23 GMT 1
The livery for the Spectra 2201 will be the livery that is seen on the Rochdale Eclipses. It's a school bus livery, not PoTN. It is gret though like PoTN.
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 6, 2021 10:38:30 GMT 1
POTN Eclipse 1825 is also over from Keighley.
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Post by driver6540 on Sept 8, 2021 21:39:08 GMT 1
Apologies if this may sound like a "thick" question to ask, But what is the reasoning behind the Pride of the North fleet within Transdev?. Up until recently i had never encountered Transdev, as until the Tiger takeover they didn't operate services in Kirklees. However with Team Pennine coming on stream and now becoming an established operator on local services in Kirklees and Calderdale i have seen many POTN liveried vehicles arriving at Waterloo hence my question. Keen to improve my knowledge of Huddersfield's newest operator, research shows POTN liveried buses are prevalent at all Transdev depots up here. Rosso, York, Harrogate, Keighley, Burnley and Blackburn, so i was just wondering if POTN was set up as a support/relief fleet or maybe a "budget" unit like Stagecoach's Magic Bus operations. Many thanks in advance to those kind enough to respond.
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 8, 2021 21:42:33 GMT 1
Apologies if this may sound like a "thick" question to ask, But what is the reasoning behind the Pride of the North fleet within Transdev?. Up until recently i had never encountered Transdev, as until the Tiger takeover they didn't operate services in Kirklees. However with Team Pennine coming on stream and now becoming an established operator on local services in Kirklees and Calderdale i have seen many POTN liveried vehicles arriving at Waterloo hence my question. Keen to improve my knowledge of Huddersfield's newest operator, research shows POTN liveried buses are prevalent at all Transdev depots up here. Rosso, York, Harrogate, Keighley, Burnley and Blackburn, so i was just wondering if POTN was set up as a support/relief fleet or maybe a "budget" unit like Stagecoach's Magic Bus operations. Many thanks in advance to those kind enough to respond. It's to allow for repaints and cascades in the fleets.
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Post by driver6540 on Sept 8, 2021 21:51:12 GMT 1
Apologies if this may sound like a "thick" question to ask, But what is the reasoning behind the Pride of the North fleet within Transdev?. Up until recently i had never encountered Transdev, as until the Tiger takeover they didn't operate services in Kirklees. However with Team Pennine coming on stream and now becoming an established operator on local services in Kirklees and Calderdale i have seen many POTN liveried vehicles arriving at Waterloo hence my question. Keen to improve my knowledge of Huddersfield's newest operator, research shows POTN liveried buses are prevalent at all Transdev depots up here. Rosso, York, Harrogate, Keighley, Burnley and Blackburn, so i was just wondering if POTN was set up as a support/relief fleet or maybe a "budget" unit like Stagecoach's Magic Bus operations. Many thanks in advance to those kind enough to respond. It's to allow for repaints and cascades in the fleets. Thanks 01, so POTN is basically a support/relief fleet then (albeit a very good quality one).
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 8, 2021 21:54:57 GMT 1
It's to allow for repaints and cascades in the fleets. Thanks 01, so POTN is basically a support/relief fleet then (albeit a very good quality one). yep and can float around the fleets to fill in where's needed and some in the Transdev Go livery are for schools but can go on odd service routes too.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 8, 2021 22:13:53 GMT 1
Apologies if this may sound like a "thick" question to ask, But what is the reasoning behind the Pride of the North fleet within Transdev?. Up until recently i had never encountered Transdev, as until the Tiger takeover they didn't operate services in Kirklees. However with Team Pennine coming on stream and now becoming an established operator on local services in Kirklees and Calderdale i have seen many POTN liveried vehicles arriving at Waterloo hence my question. Keen to improve my knowledge of Huddersfield's newest operator, research shows POTN liveried buses are prevalent at all Transdev depots up here. Rosso, York, Harrogate, Keighley, Burnley and Blackburn, so i was just wondering if POTN was set up as a support/relief fleet or maybe a "budget" unit like Stagecoach's Magic Bus operations. Many thanks in advance to those kind enough to respond. Two reasons really Spare buses that can move around as and when service requirements change, and the modern Gemini’s have moved often. They aren’t entirely spare though they do form part of a company’s allocation at that time. In theory if the PVR dropped by 1, and another company’s increased by 1, they’d transfer a POTN bus, we’ve seen this recently with the Idle allocation and the 784 service And secondly older school buses, painted in the generic livery so when the school contracts are lost or won over the years, they can move around
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Post by SCH117X on Sept 9, 2021 17:52:02 GMT 1
Theres a fleetlist kept quite well up to date by the West Yorkshire Information Service (formed in 1951 to collate and distribute news regarding the vehicles and operations of the West Yorkshire Road Car Company Limited) and which has continued to cover the comings and goings of the Blazefield (now Transdev Blazefield) and First York as the modern operations of the WYRCC territory, albeit under Blazefield expanding beyond that territory. www.wyis.org.uk/. There are a few stored vehicles; a couple of electric Solos which have not been used since the original lockdown being too small for social distancing on the service they were operating (Harrogate-Pateley Bridge), a couple of B10BLEs (a Blazefield favourite which still hang on in front line service in Blackburn and Burnley), a President, a Trident, four Geminis (one awaiting repair after an accident) and no fewer than 7 YT vehicles.
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Post by leedsbusman on Sept 10, 2021 0:34:21 GMT 1
Theres a fleetlist kept quite well up to date by the West Yorkshire Information Service (formed in 1951 to collate and distribute news regarding the vehicles and operations of the West Yorkshire Road Car Company Limited) and which has continued to cover the comings and goings of the Blazefield (now Transdev Blazefield) and First York as the modern operations of the WYRCC territory, albeit under Blazefield expanding beyond that territory. www.wyis.org.uk/. There are a few stored vehicles; a couple of electric Solos which have not been used since the original lockdown being too small for social distancing on the service they were operating (Harrogate-Pateley Bridge), a couple of B10BLEs (a Blazefield favourite which still hang on in front line service in Blackburn and Burnley), a President, a Trident, four Geminis (one awaiting repair after an accident) and no fewer than 7 YT vehicles. The WYIS list seems to jump to conclusions - much like bustimes lists. Eg it has buses withdrawn or stored that are simply away for repairs (or in 1344 and 2761’s case still in service!). It has even reported the sale of 1332 which is alive and well in Keighley.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 11, 2021 18:23:45 GMT 1
I agree they do seem to have gone down that road lately
Reporting stuff that may happen, so to be first with the news, rather than updating after it is confirmed it has happened
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 16, 2021 17:22:59 GMT 1
Team Pennine Fleet withdrawn:
Optare Solo 176 YJ59NPK
Transbus/Dart Pointer 721 SN55HTY
Wright Cadet 1212 KUI6563 1213 YJ57BVU 1221 YJ06LFO 1223 YJ07JVL 1225 YJ07BLU
East Lancs Lowlander 2202 YJ06WWV 2203 YJ06WWY 2204 YJ06WLZ 2205 YJ06WMA
Volvo B7 Wright Gemini 2799 LF52TGV
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 16, 2021 17:36:10 GMT 1
The WYIS fleetlist notes that although withdrawn, this may not be permanent
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 16, 2021 17:56:35 GMT 1
The WYIS fleetlist notes that although withdrawn, this may not be permanent WYIS must have it wrong again as the list is down as offical on the TP Enthusiasts page on FB posted by a staff member
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Post by jst on Sept 16, 2021 18:21:26 GMT 1
I wonder if 721 will turn back up at Belle Isle?
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 16, 2021 18:23:21 GMT 1
I wonder if 721 will turn back up at Belle Isle? Might do and same with the Lowlanders but depends if they're still serviceable and not badly knackered.
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Post by kendall17 on Sept 16, 2021 19:24:15 GMT 1
I wonder if 721 will turn back up at Belle Isle? Might do and same with the Lowlanders but depends if they're still serviceable and not badly knackered. Unless they weren't part of the sale, then there's absolutely no chance of them returning to Arriva. I cant remember the last time Arriva delved into the second hand bus market for 16 year old vehicles...
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Sept 17, 2021 12:39:54 GMT 1
Unless they weren't part of the sale, then there's absolutely no chance of them returning to Arriva. I cant remember the last time Arriva delved into the second hand bus market for 16 year old vehicles... Plus, If Arriva are having problems with the lowlanders they've already got, which they are, then they won't want anymore of the things. Could be exactly the reason they take them back - spare parts would be useful to keep the others on the road.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Sept 17, 2021 12:42:53 GMT 1
The WYIS fleetlist notes that although withdrawn, this may not be permanent WYIS must have it wrong again as the list is down as offical on the TP Enthusiasts page on FB posted by a staff member You mean the ‘copy & paste’ from here by a Morrisons cleaner.
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Post by jus363 on Sept 18, 2021 11:06:37 GMT 1
Team Pennine Fleet withdrawn: Optare Solo 176 YJ59NPK Transbus/Dart Pointer 721 SN55HTY Wright Cadet 1212 KUI6563 1213 YJ57BVU 1221 YJ06LFO 1223 YJ07JVL 1225 YJ07BLU East Lancs Lowlander 2202 YJ06WWV 2203 YJ06WWY 2204 YJ06WLZ 2205 YJ06WMA Volvo B7 Wright Gemini 2799 LF52TGV 2202 Is working on the rye lane service this morning Also some of these may not be withdraw i know there is quite a few buses waiting parts
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Post by leedsbusman on Sept 18, 2021 19:20:59 GMT 1
Team Pennine Fleet withdrawn: Optare Solo 176 YJ59NPK Transbus/Dart Pointer 721 SN55HTY Wright Cadet 1212 KUI6563 1213 YJ57BVU 1221 YJ06LFO 1223 YJ07JVL 1225 YJ07BLU East Lancs Lowlander 2202 YJ06WWV 2203 YJ06WWY 2204 YJ06WLZ 2205 YJ06WMA Volvo B7 Wright Gemini 2799 LF52TGV 2202 Is working on the rye lane service this morning Also some of these may not be withdraw i know there is quite a few buses waiting parts None of these are withdrawn - nor are 1343, 2701, 2760 2762 or 2764 for that matter. WYIS seems to treat anything that’s VOR for any length of time as withdrawn, which stretches the truth somewhat.
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Post by chas on Sept 18, 2021 20:12:54 GMT 1
2202 Is working on the rye lane service this morning Also some of these may not be withdraw i know there is quite a few buses waiting parts None of these are withdrawn - nor are 1343, 2701, 2760 2762 or 2764 for that matter. WYIS seems to treat anything that’s VOR for any length of time as withdrawn, which stretches the truth somewhat. WYIS states " .. that vehicles in the 'Transdev Blazefield Withdrawn and Stored Vehicles' section '.... are held awaiting disposal or possible refurbishment and/or re-use within the Group'. Italics is used to differentiate those awaiting disposal but it is not easy identify which vehicles are in italics. 2701 is the only vehicle mentioned above that is currently reported as SORN. 721 is at Waterloo. 2202 was re-instated to Elland on the 17th. 2203-05, 2760/2/4/99 are not in italics, therefore not reported as withdrawn. 1212/3 are Commanders."
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Post by leedsbusman on Sept 18, 2021 21:25:14 GMT 1
None of these are withdrawn - nor are 1343, 2701, 2760 2762 or 2764 for that matter. WYIS seems to treat anything that’s VOR for any length of time as withdrawn, which stretches the truth somewhat. WYIS states " .. that vehicles in the 'Transdev Blazefield Withdrawn and Stored Vehicles' section '.... are held awaiting disposal or possible refurbishment and/or re-use within the Group'. Italics is used to differentiate those awaiting disposal but it is not easy identify which vehicles are in italics. 2701 is the only vehicle mentioned above that is currently reported as SORN. 721 is at Waterloo. 2202 was re-instated to Elland on the 17th. 2203-05, 2760/2/4/99 are not in italics, therefore not reported as withdrawn. 1212/3 are Commanders." Non of those meet that definition though - they aren’t awaiting disposal, possible refurbishment or reuse within the group. They are simply under repair. I suppose WYIS can define things as they want but it doesn’t necessarily reflect what the company thinks!
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