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Post by drb111uk on Jan 13, 2019 23:23:03 GMT 1
Did 37126 turn up at Halifax to join the rest of the batch? All the others arrived I think? 37126 now at Halifax. A quick check on Google suggests 37126 might be one of very few B9's afflicted by "the hoover" Hopefully they've fix that before cascading it here!!!
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Jan 14, 2019 13:51:20 GMT 1
32697,37021,37024 & 37026 at Bradford. 32697 ON 617/618, 37024 on 636/637 & 37026 on 640/641 today
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Post by DW1 on Jan 14, 2019 18:48:15 GMT 1
Given the recent influx of B9TL's into Halifax, does this mean they wont be receiving any Leeds E400's, as a previous poster had implied? I was hoping Huddersfield received some E400’s. Does anyone know when route 398’s contract is up for renewal?
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Post by Jagga on Jan 14, 2019 20:38:41 GMT 1
Lol, E400's would die in Hudds.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jan 14, 2019 21:16:57 GMT 1
Lol, E400's would die in Hudds. And yet E400s have been doing the 184 for a number of recent years. And that’s a Manchester route. Though Huddersfield’s could do with some Gem 2’s from Leeds.
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Post by ratty on Jan 14, 2019 21:58:14 GMT 1
32697,37021,37024 & 37026 at Bradford. 32697 ON 617/618, 37024 on 636/637 & 37026 on 640/641 today 32697 bit of an oddball transfer, its one of its own at the end of a batch at Halifax. Does 37024 running at Bradford mean that both it and 37023 have returned from loan to Olive Grove, Sheffield?
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jan 14, 2019 22:48:33 GMT 1
32697,37021,37024 & 37026 at Bradford. 32697 ON 617/618, 37024 on 636/637 & 37026 on 640/641 today 32697 bit of an oddball transfer, its one of its own at the end of a batch at Halifax. Does 37024 running at Bradford mean that both it and 37023 have returned from loan to Olive Grove, Sheffield? Just think of the 3269x vehicles as being 37015-37020, as they were the first 6 of the 370xx batch.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jan 15, 2019 0:09:15 GMT 1
32697 bit of an oddball transfer, its one of its own at the end of a batch at Halifax. Does 37024 running at Bradford mean that both it and 37023 have returned from loan to Olive Grove, Sheffield? Just think of the 3269x vehicles as being 37015-37020, as they were the first 6 of the 370xx batch. The 32692 - 97 batch are an oddball for numbering. Following on from some Bristol batch buses which were in the 326xx regions, Fleet numbers 37015-20 were taken by earlier 55 reg B7s in Bristol. I thought 37021-31 all came back to Hunslet for West Yorkshire after the spell in olive grove, before being allocated to Halifax / Bradford
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Post by cs1 on Jan 15, 2019 1:06:45 GMT 1
Just think of the 3269x vehicles as being 37015-37020, as they were the first 6 of the 370xx batch. The 32692 - 97 batch are an oddball for numbering. Following on from some Bristol batch buses which were in the 326xx regions, Fleet numbers 37015-20 were taken by earlier 55 reg B7s in Bristol. I thought 37021-31 all came back to Hunslet for West Yorkshire after the spell in olive grove, before being allocated to Halifax / Bradford 37023/37024 returned around 21st December from OG as MT cover. The full batch which went to OG from Hunslet Park in 2012 was 37021-37035. 37031 was never returned as it had a major fire and subsequent rebuild, Huddersfield gained 37258 from Rotherham in its place.
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Post by cs1 on Jan 15, 2019 1:10:52 GMT 1
Lol, E400's would die in Hudds. And yet E400s have been doing the 184 for a number of recent years. And that’s a Manchester route. Though Huddersfield’s could do with some Gem 2’s from Leeds. The 14 plate E400s are better buses than people give them credit for (ignore drivers moaning about this that and the other) they go out and stay out and are more reliable than B9s, a tad too big for Huddersfield IMO. Gemini 2 B9s have obvious destinations when the next cascading starts.
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Post by cs1 on Jan 15, 2019 1:13:04 GMT 1
Lol, E400's would die in Hudds. In an area that was rife with the lower powered W/X/Y reg B7TLs some of which couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding??? Nooooo.😁
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jan 15, 2019 6:48:12 GMT 1
And yet E400s have been doing the 184 for a number of recent years. And that’s a Manchester route. Though Huddersfield’s could do with some Gem 2’s from Leeds. The 14 plate E400s are better buses than people give them credit for (ignore drivers moaning about this that and the other) they go out and stay out and are more reliable than B9s, a tad too big for Huddersfield IMO. Gemini 2 B9s have obvious destinations when the next cascading starts. The 14 plate E400s are a decent set of buses, probably a favourite with me, those buses can climb Kirkstall Hill on a 49/50.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jan 15, 2019 14:48:23 GMT 1
The 14 plate E400s are better buses than people give them credit for (ignore drivers moaning about this that and the other) they go out and stay out and are more reliable than B9s, a tad too big for Huddersfield IMO. Gemini 2 B9s have obvious destinations when the next cascading starts. The 14 plate E400s are a decent set of buses, probably a favourite with me, those buses can climb Kirkstall Hill on a 49/50. I'm a driver on the 49 service and they are lovely buses to drive. They do get going up Kirkstall Hill and easily get to 35 mph between Harehills and Amberton Road on the bottom part of Easterly Road. The only issue I have with the Enviro 400 is the indicator stalk is on the wrong side, the seat base is also a bit smaller than the seats in the Gemini and Eclipses. There is only really one slow one, that is 33887.
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Post by firstbus05 on Jan 15, 2019 17:15:56 GMT 1
36218 is back from its holiday in Bristol seen on 3 today
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Post by drb111uk on Jan 15, 2019 20:52:49 GMT 1
The 14 plate E400s are a decent set of buses, probably a favourite with me, those buses can climb Kirkstall Hill on a 49/50. I'm a driver on the 49 service and they are lovely buses to drive. They do get going up Kirkstall Hill and easily get to 35 mph between Harehills and Amberton Road on the bottom part of Easterly Road. The only issue I have with the Enviro 400 is the indicator stalk is on the wrong side, the seat base is also a bit smaller than the seats in the Gemini and Eclipses. There is only really one slow one, that is 33887. Out of interest, are these ZF or Voith boxes? Thanks!
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jan 15, 2019 22:04:05 GMT 1
I'm a driver on the 49 service and they are lovely buses to drive. They do get going up Kirkstall Hill and easily get to 35 mph between Harehills and Amberton Road on the bottom part of Easterly Road. The only issue I have with the Enviro 400 is the indicator stalk is on the wrong side, the seat base is also a bit smaller than the seats in the Gemini and Eclipses. There is only really one slow one, that is 33887. Out of interest, are these ZF or Voith boxes? Thanks! These set of E400s are ZF’s. The ones used on the 184 are ZFs too. The E400 MMCs for they use on long distance X84 are Voiths.
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 15, 2019 22:14:23 GMT 1
The 14 plate E400s are a decent set of buses, probably a favourite with me, those buses can climb Kirkstall Hill on a 49/50. I'm a driver on the 49 service and they are lovely buses to drive. They do get going up Kirkstall Hill and easily get to 35 mph between Harehills and Amberton Road on the bottom part of Easterly Road. The only issue I have with the Enviro 400 is the indicator stalk is on the wrong side, the seat base is also a bit smaller than the seats in the Gemini and Eclipses. There is only really one slow one, that is 33887. I loved travelling on the e400s when bramley ran the 72. I hate to admit this but the 04 plate Geminis even ALX400s have more speed on hills than 33887 and they are slow at the best of times.
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Post by driver6540 on Jan 15, 2019 23:25:42 GMT 1
The First Manchester E400's that run into Huddersfield on the 184 are in the main "12" plate examples based at Oldham depot, are they the same box as the "14" reg ones?. As a relatively regular passenger on that route i've travelled on both the B9TL's and E400's up and over Standedge and sat and listened to them both struggle. The quickest bus on that section of the route was the easily the B7RLE's previously deployed on the 184 prior to the introduction of the deckers. I recently caught a FGM Streetlite on that route (very unusual allocation) and was very impressed with the speed it climbed up Standedge at. Maybe an unfair comparison given the power to weight ratio of the Streetlite.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jan 16, 2019 0:39:21 GMT 1
driver6540 I'm pretty sure they're the same Ecolife box in both 12 and 14 plate ones. StreetLite can be quick providing you get a good run up on hills but if you don't, they spend too long deciding what gear they need to be in and in that time you've slowed down to 15/20 mph. The best StreetLites I have driven are the Red Arrow ones in Halifax. Much more comfortable and quicker than the Cummins examples at Bramley.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jan 16, 2019 0:42:08 GMT 1
driver6540 I'm pretty sure they're the same Ecolife box in both 12 and 14 plate ones. StreetLite can be quick providing you get a good run up on hills but if you don't, they spend too long deciding what gear they need to be in and in that time you've slowed down to 15/20 mph. The best StreetLites I have driven are the Red Arrow ones in Halifax. Much more comfortable and quicker than the Cummins examples at Bramley. Although as a driver, my favourite buses are the 667xx/69xxx Eclipses and the 695xxx Eclipse 2s. Many a bus spotter be quick to tell you they're rubbish because the Eclipse 2s don't rev or whatever but as a driver they're an absolute pleasure to drive. Especially on long routes as when I was in Halifax for a while I was given Calder Valley work, really suited to that type. In other news, 60880 likely never see service again at Bramley aswell as 62355 which has been off road for many months.
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Post by cs1 on Jan 16, 2019 0:58:05 GMT 1
The First Manchester E400's that run into Huddersfield on the 184 are in the main "12" plate examples based at Oldham depot, are they the same box as the "14" reg ones?. As a relatively regular passenger on that route i've travelled on both the B9TL's and E400's up and over Standedge and sat and listened to them both struggle. The quickest bus on that section of the route was the easily the B7RLE's previously deployed on the 184 prior to the introduction of the deckers. I recently caught a FGM Streetlite on that route (very unusual allocation) and was very impressed with the speed it climbed up Standedge at. Maybe an unfair comparison given the power to weight ratio of the Streetlite. Manchester has had a running battle with various makes that use Adblu in derate, that makes E400s very poor where as B9s go into derate and they stay in limp mode whether it be on the flat or hills and are undriveable. The 12/14 plate E400s and B9s share the Ecolife gearbox which is not reliable and can hold the bus back when worn out as well as the skipping and jumping gears. As for Streetlites I'll take a 13/63 plate Cummins max over the rest anyday.
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Post by michael1971 on Jan 16, 2019 11:39:42 GMT 1
reports from First Kernow facebook page report that 37058 and 37729 are due there as extra open toppers
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jan 16, 2019 15:10:41 GMT 1
reports from First Kernow facebook page report that 37058 and 37729 are due there as extra open toppers 37058 appeared on the TV program police interceptors last weekend on channel 5. That was interesting to watch it’s fate with a low railway bridge story on TV. It was still driveable after the incident with no roof. , I don’t know about 37729. But that’s a random 2 to pick.
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Post by Dom on Jan 18, 2019 1:05:53 GMT 1
reports from First Kernow facebook page report that 37058 and 37729 are due there as extra open toppers 37058 appeared on the TV program police interceptors last weekend on channel 5. That was interesting to watch it’s fate with a low railway bridge story on TV. It was still driveable after the incident with no roof. , I don’t know about 37729. But that’s a random 2 to pick. 37729 also a low bridge victim, Henconner Lane. 32439 hasn’t been mentioned, but my guess is the book value of it isn’t high enough for it to be replaced
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Post by 1601 on Jan 19, 2019 16:59:28 GMT 1
32461 now at OFL.
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