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Post by martinsfp on May 21, 2018 7:01:25 GMT 1
Metro has been very poor recently in announcing changes to times in their published timetables. All the ones I looked at just said that there is a revised timetable, no list of actual changes. What is going on at Metro? Does anybody actually read their own timetables? This is a problem I've noticed in other parts of the country too. Even significant timetable changes are brushed off with something like 'new times' rather than 'frequency reduced from every 10 minutes to every 15 minutes' or whatever, which used to be more common.
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Post by zac1 on May 21, 2018 14:27:53 GMT 1
has anyone been on the new Keighley sprinters yet?
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Post by Marcus on May 21, 2018 18:32:19 GMT 1
Metro has been very poor recently in announcing changes to times in their published timetables. All the ones I looked at just said that there is a revised timetable, no list of actual changes. What is going on at Metro? Does anybody actually read their own timetables? ZERO mention that the 372 now omits the main stop (B) at Waterloo towards Almondbury, and now only serves Waterloo rise. Not to mention that the 372 is still on the updated timetable from 20 May. I found out the hard way!
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 21, 2018 18:35:55 GMT 1
Metro has been very poor recently in announcing changes to times in their published timetables. All the ones I looked at just said that there is a revised timetable, no list of actual changes. What is going on at Metro? Does anybody actually read their own timetables? Do the operators actually tell Metro what has changed, or are they expected to compare the new timetable to the old timetable and work it out themselves, something which after the cuts is unlikely to happen. But yes ‘A revised timetable is introduced’ is so vague and doesn’t explain if the main daytime service is effected or just peak times, or just evenings, or maybe just one or two trips retimed and the rest of the service is identical.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on May 21, 2018 20:35:48 GMT 1
Metro has been very poor recently in announcing changes to times in their published timetables. All the ones I looked at just said that there is a revised timetable, no list of actual changes. What is going on at Metro? Does anybody actually read their own timetables? Do the operators actually tell Metro what has changed, or are they expected to compare the new timetable to the old timetable and work it out themselves, something which after the cuts is unlikely to happen. But yes ‘A revised timetable is introduced’ is so vague and doesn’t explain if the main daytime service is effected or just peak times, or just evenings, or maybe just one or two trips retimed and the rest of the service is identical. Generally operators don't put much more than revised timetable, they may mention a period such as peak but unless they are only changing one or two journeys they won't provide extended detail on the registration form (it will depend on the operator, the extent & ease of explaining the changes plus who is responsible for the changes vs who fills out the forms as to how much detail is gone into). With the new extended registration period with a statutory 28-day 'consultation' with the local authority they should get more detail about the changes, whether that detail will filter through to the publicity people who do this information is another matter as the base forms submitted by the operators are unlikely to change.
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Post by Dom on May 22, 2018 22:48:00 GMT 1
Been on the 56 today with it’s revised timetable, and it has been given a lot more time. 33 minutes to get from Eastgate to Eden drive, and the timing point at Albion Street has gone. Makes the route 10 time more efficient
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Post by tyresmoke on Jun 2, 2018 12:24:34 GMT 1
Do the operators actually tell Metro what has changed, or are they expected to compare the new timetable to the old timetable and work it out themselves, something which after the cuts is unlikely to happen. But yes ‘A revised timetable is introduced’ is so vague and doesn’t explain if the main daytime service is effected or just peak times, or just evenings, or maybe just one or two trips retimed and the rest of the service is identical. Generally operators don't put much more than revised timetable, they may mention a period such as peak but unless they are only changing one or two journeys they won't provide extended detail on the registration form (it will depend on the operator, the extent & ease of explaining the changes plus who is responsible for the changes vs who fills out the forms as to how much detail is gone into). With the new extended registration period with a statutory 28-day 'consultation' with the local authority they should get more detail about the changes, whether that detail will filter through to the publicity people who do this information is another matter as the base forms submitted by the operators are unlikely to change. You're supposed to send the revised timetable & maps (if changed) to the local authority already anyway.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Jun 4, 2018 8:15:47 GMT 1
Generally operators don't put much more than revised timetable, they may mention a period such as peak but unless they are only changing one or two journeys they won't provide extended detail on the registration form (it will depend on the operator, the extent & ease of explaining the changes plus who is responsible for the changes vs who fills out the forms as to how much detail is gone into). With the new extended registration period with a statutory 28-day 'consultation' with the local authority they should get more detail about the changes, whether that detail will filter through to the publicity people who do this information is another matter as the base forms submitted by the operators are unlikely to change. You're supposed to send the revised timetable & maps (if changed) to the local authority already anyway. Yes, the councils get a copy of the full registration send to the Licensing Office but as WestYorkshireBus said unless the person at the council is going to sit with the old & new timetable next to each other & search for the differences they may find it difficult to identify what the actual detailed change is from that. There is a section on the form itself to state what is being changed but operators tend to not go into a great deal of detail in this section to actually spell out which journeys have changed in what way.
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