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Post by resolution on Oct 12, 2018 15:50:22 GMT 1
Thanks for taking time to let us know. At one point it wasn’t known if there were to be different colour wedges and whether it was something that had been guessed and become fact, especially when the green ones were subsequently repainted red. No problem, they will look fab, exciting times for Leeds! Exciting times for Leeds, eh? For Leeds! For LEEDS! Always for b****y L***s!!! Meanwhile neither Huddersfield nor Halifax has had a new double-decker for FOURTEEN YEARS and to add insult to injury, when Halifax actually gets a quartet of double-deckers less than ten years old the general public isn't allowed to ride on them because they are reserved for school-kids, who will doubtless show them appropriate respect. Meanwhile those fourteen-year-old buses (mutton dressed as lamb if ever there was) continue to grind their way over the hills to Huddersfield on the sort of route to which any self-respecting bus company would allot a new set of vehicles every three or four years. Halifax - Bradford likewise. Does First even know there is anywhere in West Yorkshire outside b****y L***s?
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Post by ajw11239 on Oct 12, 2018 16:07:38 GMT 1
York, too - the MD there likes to bang on and on to high heaven about their electric buses but they're P&R only. For any residents, buses newer than 10 years old don't exist and the majority of routes are worked by crappy, tired 51/02/52-plate vehicles which are dreadfully uncomfortable - half of which with limited natural light thanks to them plastering stupid massive ugly contactless advertisements over them.
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Post by shaker4445 on Oct 12, 2018 16:49:16 GMT 1
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Oct 12, 2018 17:53:11 GMT 1
I thought these new streetdecks would be a proper standout blue. Not a navy blue
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Post by jus363 on Oct 12, 2018 19:03:39 GMT 1
When will these pen pusher mangers get in the real world Joe public doesn’t care less if it’s pulse, grand Yorkshire connection branded Zest or Calder connect, Leeds city with blue, red or yellow livery etc etc, They just want the bus to turn up on time and drop them at their destination !
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Oct 12, 2018 19:16:48 GMT 1
So we get an insider on the forum, and he is bombarded with childish ranting and raving and insults. That isn’t putting the forum in a great light.
I thought this forum was for enthusiasts, recently it seems to be comparable to the comments under a bus story on a newspaper website.
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Post by westridingbuses on Oct 12, 2018 19:26:36 GMT 1
Definitely think the blue wedge should’ve been brighter than this.. something a bit closer to the blue on the new HD Connect livery would’ve been better. It’s not too late to change it Stuart Fillingham!
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Post by shaker4445 on Oct 12, 2018 19:41:59 GMT 1
Definitely think the blue wedge should’ve been brighter than this.. something a bit closer to the blue on the new HD Connect livery would’ve been better. It’s not too late to change it Stuart Fillingham! The car in the background to the photo has its headlights on and looking at the road surface it may well be raining but in any event the light must be poor. Although the colour looks subdued (the more I look at it the more I like it by the way) I think it may be best to see it in the flesh before jumping to any final conclusion.
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Post by westridingbuses on Oct 12, 2018 19:50:21 GMT 1
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Post by westridingbuses on Oct 12, 2018 19:51:15 GMT 1
Especially if you zoom in!
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Post by leeds rider on Oct 12, 2018 20:33:34 GMT 1
Oh dear, even making allowances I think that's absolutely horrid. Definitely should be a much lighter blue, especially given the brightness of the red and yellow versions.
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Post by WYBS on Oct 12, 2018 20:33:36 GMT 1
So we get an insider on the forum, and he is bombarded with childish ranting and raving and insults. That isn’t putting the forum in a great light. I thought this forum was for enthusiasts, recently it seems to be comparable to the comments under a bus story on a newspaper website. First sure are doing a great job alright!!!
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Post by rider5521 on Oct 12, 2018 21:00:52 GMT 1
When will these pen pusher mangers get in the real world Joe public doesn’t care less if it’s pulse, grand Yorkshire connection branded Zest or Calder connect, Leeds city with blue, red or yellow livery etc etc, They just want the bus to turn up on time and drop them at their destination ! Tell you what, I've known "Fillo" for most or his career and hes not a pen pusher. What experience have you in this field and want results have you delivered?
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Post by jus363 on Oct 12, 2018 21:27:45 GMT 1
When will these pen pusher mangers get in the real world Joe public doesn’t care less if it’s pulse, grand Yorkshire connection branded Zest or Calder connect, Leeds city with blue, red or yellow livery etc etc, They just want the bus to turn up on time and drop them at their destination ! Tell you what, I've known "Fillo" for most or his career and hes not a pen pusher. What experience have you in this field and want results have you delivered? Yes your right I will hold my hand I don’t have experience in this field But as an enthusiast I do like to see livery variations but the public don’t care what colour the buses are it’s just a waste of money This is my personal opinion and not ment to cause offence.
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Post by nic on Oct 12, 2018 21:47:10 GMT 1
So we get an insider on the forum, and he is bombarded with childish ranting and raving and insults. That isn’t putting the forum in a great light. I thought this forum was for enthusiasts, recently it seems to be comparable to the comments under a bus story on a newspaper website. Not only that WYB, the insider may remove himself from the forum after putting up with childish rants. You can put your opinion across in a completely different manner then the said forum members have done.
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Post by nic on Oct 12, 2018 21:54:37 GMT 1
Do not like this livery. It doesn't sit well within the "basic" livery due to the clash of dark and darker colours. Personally it should of changed; should be two shades of red with blue wedge. And a lighter blue. That would of suited the model. The others (Red/Orange) with the green do look well. Does First WY have any plans to convert the B9TL over to this current liveries? Or are they going to be transferred over to the other operations around west/north Yorkshire to displace the very old, worn & shabby, run down models? Basically anything pre 2006/even 08?
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Post by rider5521 on Oct 12, 2018 21:59:06 GMT 1
So we get an insider on the forum, and he is bombarded with childish ranting and raving and insults. That isn’t putting the forum in a great light. I thought this forum was for enthusiasts, recently it seems to be comparable to the comments under a bus story on a newspaper website. Not only that WYB, the insider may remove himself from the forum after putting up with childish rants. You can put your opinion across in a completely different manner then the said forum members have done. Suppose it's an age thing, suspect most enthusiasts on here are of a certain age and lack certain social skills. If in My day (the pre internet age) a manager made himself available to chat we would have enaged in a different manner, and forged a relationship to get inside info. Suppose that's the difference between then and now, and hiding under usernames..
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Post by kendall17 on Oct 12, 2018 22:23:08 GMT 1
Tell you what, I've known "Fillo" for most or his career and hes not a pen pusher. What experience have you in this field and want results have you delivered? Yes your right I will hold my hand I don’t have experience in this field But as an enthusiast I do like to see livery variations but the public don’t care what colour the buses are it’s just a waste of money This is my personal opinion and not ment to cause offence. But you appeared to call him a "pen pusher". Surely that's meant to cause offence. We've seen quite a few managers, owners & insiders on this forum and none seem to stick around. With posts like yours, I'm not suprised.
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Post by jus363 on Oct 12, 2018 22:44:47 GMT 1
Yes your right I will hold my hand I don’t have experience in this field But as an enthusiast I do like to see livery variations but the public don’t care what colour the buses are it’s just a waste of money This is my personal opinion and not ment to cause offence. But you appeared to call him a "pen pusher". Surely that's meant to cause offence. We've seen quite a few managers, owners & insiders on this forum and none seem to stick around. With posts like yours, I'm not suprised. It’s was not supposed to be directed at one individual But as most people know on here mangers come and go they do their thing move up the ladder then move on ! This week it will be branded buses next week they will be all in standard livery and so on. As I said it’s just my opinion.
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Post by resolution on Oct 13, 2018 19:28:35 GMT 1
Not only that WYB, the insider may remove himself from the forum after putting up with childish rants. You can put your opinion across in a completely different manner then the said forum members have done. Suppose it's an age thing, suspect most enthusiasts on here are of a certain age and lack certain social skills. If in My day (the pre internet age) a manager made himself available to chat we would have enaged in a different manner, and forged a relationship to get inside info. Suppose that's the difference between then and now, and hiding under usernames.. If any person, be he manager, politician or industry insider, comes on to a forum and indulges in p.r. speak like "Exciting times for Leeds" he is inviting (one might even say inciting) comment. Especially when it is placed on a forum for West Yorkshire, which includes plenty of places which are not Leeds and are suffering because of Leeds-centric policies. It in no way suggests that the poster may be the instigator of such policies. Leeds may well be pleased about getting even more new buses but First Huddersfield's fleet input in the last twelve months comprises a trio of 15-year-old single-deckers from the West of England, one of which (66326) has all the characteristics for passengers of the revolving drum of a cement mixer. I am therefore quite unapologetic about having a rant. As for its being an age thing it's more 'grumpy old mannish' than 'childish' born as it is of 65 years of watching Leeds get the cake and the rest of us get not even the best of the crumbs. Leeds' admitted transport problems were self-inflicted by the 1953 Labour administration which voted to destroy its tramway. I don't see why the rest of us should suffer the consequences indefinitely.
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Post by irhardy on Oct 13, 2018 22:43:14 GMT 1
Unfortunately Leeds is the profitable part of First West Yorkshire, which is why Leeds gets investment. If Halifax and Huddersfield were as profitable then First would invest there as well. Also First are committed to upgrade (either new or converted) the Leeds fleet with Euro 6 engines by 2020 as do all operators in Leeds. None of the other First West Yorkshire locations have that requirement, if they did then First would have to invest there as well.
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Post by driver6540 on Oct 13, 2018 23:00:38 GMT 1
Whether people on this forum like it or not, First are a business and business's exist to make money, simple as that. Given that Leeds is the biggest profitable area in West Yorkshire, then it's obvious Leeds will receive the lions share of major investment whether that be in new buses or other inituatives to appease or grow their customer base. Whilst some members of this forum might not like that, as they would appear to want bus companies to cater for bus enthusiasts only it is a fact of life. Also, in response to above posters comments regarding 14yr old deckers running into Huddersfield, would i be correct in assuming you refer to the 503/X63 routes?. If so, isn't it a fact most buses allocated to those routes have had a full internal/external refurb in the past couple of years?. Both Huddersfield and Halifax have received new B7RLE's and Streetlites in the past five years, so First can't be accused of lacking appropriate investment in these operating areas. Given First's main rival in Huddersfield and Halifax's local services is Yorkshire Tiger, when was the last time they invested in new buses for these towns?. So what if Leeds get new buses and we don't, good luck to them. a reliable punctual service is what really matters isn't it?, whether that be delivered by new or old buses.
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Post by Jagga on Oct 13, 2018 23:16:28 GMT 1
Photo on flickr of a new Streetdeck with a navy blue front (for 2, 3, 12, 13s). The red version of the livery looks stunning compared to this dull joke of a paint scheme. God I wish someone at First had half a brain to come up with something more interesting. Do you have a link to the picture? I'm curious to see the blue wedge version. flic.kr/p/2bRhtay
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Post by westridingbuses on Oct 15, 2018 17:17:05 GMT 1
Do not like this livery. It doesn't sit well within the "basic" livery due to the clash of dark and darker colours. Personally it should of changed; should be two shades of red with blue wedge. And a lighter blue. That would of suited the model. The others (Red/Orange) with the green do look well. Does First WY have any plans to convert the B9TL over to this current liveries? Or are they going to be transferred over to the other operations around west/north Yorkshire to displace the very old, worn & shabby, run down models? Basically anything pre 2006/even 08? I would imagine they would repaint the 16 plate Streetdecks and the 66 plate Enviros but doubt they will put the B9TLs into Leeds City livery. Not even sure if they would repaint the 14 plate Enviros or whether the 49/50 will receive brand new buses when they get round to adding the Burley Road routes to the Leeds City Brand.
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Post by marperd01 on Oct 15, 2018 18:08:48 GMT 1
Just noticed as well, these batch for the Dewsbury road services differ from the current Leedscity streetdecks in that they have the glazed corners at the front.
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